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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2009 at 16:27
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

That guy out of spastic Ink is out of this world. My personal favourite player though is Steve DiGiorgio.


Gee, I'm shocked. LOL Wink

No, I think a lot of the metal guys tend to get overlooked (or overshadowed) by their Guitar players, which is too bad, because when a metal bass player really cares about his instrument, he can outplay just about any bass player in any other genre from a technical standpoint. (My opinion)


Shocked? Oh... right, the Death thing... Well, a fanboys gotta do what a fanboys gotta do, that's all I'm saying

Well I can name about five metal bassists who are jazz trained just like the rest of em So I support your point wholeheartedly Micah.


No, trust me, if I wasn't such a Tool nut, I probably wouldn't have cited Chancellor like I did earlier. Wink

Glad we can agree on yet another aspect of music, my friend. I think Metal Bassists (and metal musicians in general) are very underrated by the masses.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2009 at 16:50
I made years before realizing how the style of Muzz Skillings (bassist for Living Colour from 1986 to 1992) influenced my own style.
The bass parts of Bill Laswell on Massacre's 'Killing Time' also did impress me.
And since I heard a few tracks by Ronald Shannon Jackson Decoding Society, I'm curious of Melvin Gibbs. I know he played with Rollins, but I know close to nothing of its career.

And, of course, STEVE HARRIS.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2009 at 17:08
i will like to mention two of my favourits which is not bin metntiond yet Chuck Raney playd some awsome basslins on Steely Dan records espessialy on Aja and Josie.
and my favourite Dee Murray the late Elton John bass-player.

Dave Hope for Kansas is also a very good bass player, Gary Thain the late Uriah Heep bass player.

but also i admire Chris Squire, Geddi Lee, John Wetton, Colin Edwin, Ray Shulman (and Derek), MIke Rutherford and Mike Porcaro
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2009 at 17:58
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

That guy out of spastic Ink is out of this world. My personal favourite player though is Steve DiGiorgio.


Gee, I'm shocked. LOL Wink

No, I think a lot of the metal guys tend to get overlooked (or overshadowed) by their Guitar players, which is too bad, because when a metal bass player really cares about his instrument, he can outplay just about any bass player in any other genre from a technical standpoint. (My opinion)


Shocked? Oh... right, the Death thing... Well, a fanboys gotta do what a fanboys gotta do, that's all I'm saying

Well I can name about five metal bassists who are jazz trained just like the rest of em So I support your point wholeheartedly Micah.


No, trust me, if I wasn't such a Tool nut, I probably wouldn't have cited Chancellor like I did earlier. Wink

Glad we can agree on yet another aspect of music, my friend. I think Metal Bassists (and metal musicians in general) are very underrated by the masses.


Exactly, just like you bring up Danny Carey in every drum thread, I MUST bring up either Hoglan or Reinert. It's the done thing these days

And there is a fundamental reason why we always agree. Because we are both right. All the time There is much more to metal than growling, putting as much distortion on your guitar as possible, having a million bass drums and smoking the sweet Mary Jane.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2009 at 19:13
For some reason and I don't know why I've never really rated Wetton it's obvious he's a good player but for some reason never really cared for him.Perhaps I haven't heard consistency in his playing after KC,anyone recommend some other good Wetton performances?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2009 at 19:19

Sasaki Hisashi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cykdVBbhvEA

Justin Chancellor, because I take a LOT of influence from him
 
Colin Marston (Dysrhythmia)
 
Jeff Caxide (Isis)
 
Caleb Schofield (Cave-In, Old Man Gloom)
 
...basically anyone who beats the crap out of their bass with a pick and does it well. I much prefer that aggressive, beefy tone you get with a plectrum over smooth fingerstyle tones. But it's got to fit in the musical context I suppose, it wouldn't work for Porcupine Tree for example. (I play using both styles anyway).
 
Apart from them I've really been digging Ray Shulman recently, as well as Jim Smith of the Cardiacs who I feel is incredibly underrated.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2009 at 19:29
Ray Shulman, Moze, Jannick Top, Mingus, Dave Holland, Jaco, Michael Manring, Bernard Paganotti, Chris Squier, Richard Sinclair, Geddy Lee, Mike Howlett, Hugh Hopper, Philippe Bussonett, Guy Delacroix, Rick Laird, Stanley Clarke...etc, etc. Bass is good, better, best!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2009 at 22:54
^ just highlighting one of those
Ray Shulman: criminally underappreciated bassist.

If I did bassist top tens any more, and I don't, and there'd be motown players and I'd be driven off the site by pointéd sticks, he'd be in there.

Tony Reeves of Colosseum and later Greenslade is similarly overlooked. Coincidentally, anyone else rate Gordon Haskell's bass-work (leaving the vocals aside for a moment) on Lizard as much as I do?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2009 at 23:03
Not sure about how I'd rate Gordon's work on Lizard, but I'll have to agree that some Motown bassists are pretty incredible.  James Jamerson anyone?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 03:19
Patrice Congas, the bass player on the two solo albums of Christian Boulé (guitar player of Clearlight), is really excellent.
And, since no German bass players have been mentioned so far except for Hattler, here a few more:

Peter Kühmstedt of Guru Guru.
Uli Trepte of Guru Guru and Spacebox.
Dave Schmidt alias Sula Bassana of Psychedelic Monsterjam.
Matz Steinke of Aera.
Gerald Luciano Hartwig of Embryo and Guru Guru.
Holger Czukay of Can.

To name just a few.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 03:53


Hes not amazing... but he ain't bad
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 04:32
About less known british bands, I?m surprised noone mentioned these two:
 
John Gustafson of Quatermass...
 
His playing in tracks like Black Sheep Of The Family, Up On The Ground or Laughin Tackle are very uhm.... interesting Big smile
 
...and Bernard Jinx of T2
 
his riffs in No More White Horses and Morning  rock! Clap


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 04:54
Tony Levin no doubt about that.
 
Besides him:
Stanley Clarke
John Poul Jones
Jaco
 
Not bad either:
Justin Chancellor
Percy Jones
Mick Karn
Trey Gun
 
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 05:22
I would have been all about posting to this thread, but all thunder has been stolen (so to speak - in a stupid phrase).  Glad to see there are some of the more subtle players name too (like Czukay).  Nice thread - bass is great!  Clap

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 06:22
There are a few cool videos of Tal Wilkenfeld playing with Jeff Beck around at YouTube. I especially love this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbhngojbrzQ
Look what sneaky Tal does around 4:00, like a kid putting a finger into the dough of the cake Mum is about to bake.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 06:25
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

There are a few cool videos of Tal Wilkenfeld playing with Jeff Beck around at YouTube. I especially love this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbhngojbrzQLook what sneaky Tal does around 4:00, like a kid putting a finger into the dough of the cake Mum is about to bake.


Tal is amazing - And only 17 years old I think?

In any case, thanks for the post!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 07:53
I also love this one, where Tal and Jeff due a bass duet. Watch out for 0.29, when she pushes his finger away whereupon he bursts out laughing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDgkbLw4qkw


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 08:12
I recently bought that Jeff Beck DVD, and it's fun to see they're all having the time of their life! Wilkenfeld is an amazing player (Beck compares her to Jaco Pastorius) but it must be an incredible experience for her to be touring the world with some of the greatest musicians at such a young age!

Interesting to see how some 1960s musicians are rejuvenating their careers by collaborating with gifted young women: Beck with Wilkenfeld and also with Imogen Heap; Robert Plant with that singer -- sorry, forgot the name! Some may suspect these aging chaps of undignified randiness backstage, but they certainly give their young collaborators all the space they require, and the artistic result is impeccable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 08:35
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

There are a few cool videos of Tal Wilkenfeld playing with Jeff Beck around at YouTube. I especially love this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbhngojbrzQLook what sneaky Tal does around 4:00, like a kid putting a finger into the dough of the cake Mum is about to bake.


Tal is amazing - And only 17 years old I think?

In any case, thanks for the post!
-Joel


No, she's 23 years old (born in 1986). I saw the whole concert on TV and was surprised when I noticed her: it's true that she looks younger than her age.
Anyway, she is a solid musician.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 27 2009 at 08:40
Marcello Reddovide of Semiramis is an excellent player as well ...shame he just sort of dropped off the map after Dedicato a Frazz Cry
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