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It doesn't matter what God is.  It had to be created.  That includes the written and oral form of God, of course.  The people who created him in their heads were created somehow too. Wink

The same goes for Big Bang Theory, of course.


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Originally posted by James James wrote:


The same goes for Big Bang Theory, of course.


I've been having some doubts about that one myself, could have been something far more gradual
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2009 at 20:58
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


The same goes for Big Bang Theory, of course.


I've been having some doubts about that one myself, could have been something far more gradual




Oh indeed.

Nobody is quite sure.

However, I still say something had to come before it.  Whatever happened.  Then of course something came before that. Wink

How can something appear from nothing (unless you're Phil Collins)?
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the amount of matter/energy that would have to be in one tiny particle for the BB to happen seems almost impossible
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What's before the beginning of time?
What's north of the North Pole?

(shamelessly ripped off from Stephen Hawking, I think)
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What's North of the North Pole?

The South Pole. LOL
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

the amount of matter/energy that would have to be in one tiny particle for the BB to happen seems almost impossible



but other ridiculously dense things (black holes) exist
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Isn't the concept of time more a sphere than a line? I mean, does it even have a beginning?
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If it has no beginning, then it has no end.  Therefore we're not all doomed as we think we are.

Excellent.
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God just spoke to me.

He said, "There is no God."

Edit: This was a joke.  Tee hee.  Meh. Disapprove

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OK you are all dancing around the questions that if god created everything then something must have created god in order for god to create everything so what happened?  And why does anything really exist anyway?  If the mechanisms big bang, evolution, or whatever really happened ot doesn't really matter unless you can answer those fundamental questions.


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The existence of God doesn't answer those questions either.
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

OK you are all dancing around the questions that if god created everything then something must have created god in order for god to create everything so what happened? 


Why is this a criterion?  Can't God have just always existed and not been created?

And if you don't believe in God, it's what you believe for everything else, right?  That all matter just "sort of happened"?  Wink
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Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

the amount of matter/energy that would have to be in one tiny particle for the BB to happen seems almost impossible



but other ridiculously dense things (black holes) exist


ridiculously dense yes, but the 'mother' particle would potentially contain all the black holes - or future dead stars - in it before they even existed.. that's some dense sh*t
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Originally posted by KoS KoS wrote:

The existence of God doesn't answer those questions either.



Exactly and if that doesn't what does?  Absolutely nothing.  So what's the answer?  42?

Obviously I wasn't playing close enough attention to this thread, this is the answer:

LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL

Edited by Slartibartfast - June 04 2009 at 21:45
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Points: 16310 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2009 at 21:23
^LOL See it all works out

Back to topic, I have found this to be very informative,



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Points: 16913 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2009 at 21:38
He was never one to shy away from a controversial quote................can only imagine the heat he got for saying stuff like this....


Frank Zappa

If you want to get together in any exclusive situation and have people love you, fine - but to hang all this desperate sociology on the idea of The Cloud-Guy who has The Big Book, who knows if you've been bad or good - and CARES about any of it - to hang it all on that, folks, is the chimpanzee part of the brain working.

Frank Zappa

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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2009 at 21:40
Originally posted by KoS KoS wrote:

The existence of God doesn't answer those questions either.


The contrary of the existence of a God that has always existed explains everything that you want or need it to.  The existence of the universe and lifeforms on Earth past and present just confuses things.


Edited by Slartibartfast - June 04 2009 at 21:42
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2009 at 21:42
A God cannot possibly have always been there though.  This is the point. Wink
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