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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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I haven't heard any Kapia, yet either, though not really willing to due to reviews, however I might one day check their best rated album...
BTW Roger, very nice review! Edited by The Quiet One - June 03 2009 at 15:31 |
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Roland113 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 30 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Status: Offline Points: 3843 |
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Hey Captain,
We were wondering what had happened to you, glad to hear you're still with us. |
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I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
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TheCaptain ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2009 Location: Ohio, USA Status: Offline Points: 1335 |
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Mindrevolution doesn't strike me as prog. I may get some flack for this but the vocals made me think of Disney songs or something along those lines. It took me a while but I think I've finally levelled off at liking 80--90% of the album. I've also got Angling Feelings and their 70s stuff but those are pretty new and I haven't really listened to them.
I haven't listened to TFK as long or as often as I used to recently. I imagine once the weather gets better around here and it actually feels like summer, they'll come back to the front. |
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Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
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Roj ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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Hi Tom. Unfortunately I'm not going to get a chance to listen to Flower Power for a few days. I want to put aside a good couple of hours on my own to really listen properly and I'm afraid that's not going to happen this week.
I could listen to the odd song here or there, but that won't really do for Garden Of Dreams
![]() I don't know any Kaipa at all, but if Roine's involved, believe me I'm interested!!
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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Me too Roger. And especially how you digest the one hour epic ! I'm curious if you will like it as much as Monster & Men. I love them both almost equally though they are very different. GoD is one you will have to give at least 10-20 spins before really getting into it. So, don't judge too soon.
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Roland113 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 30 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Status: Offline Points: 3843 |
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Hey PR, Personally, I only have Mindrevolutions myself, though I do enjoy it. The vocals don't bother me too much though in all fairness, I do need to give it a few more listens.
Roj, I'm curious as to what you think of Flower Power, let us know once you listen to it. |
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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He guys, we often talk about the TFK related bands and solo artists but then we always forget about Kaipa. It's Rione's first band and was around them already in the seventies ! I just heard a song by Kaipa on Morow and it didn't sound bad at all. Though their album Mindrevolutions was not impressive to me. Especailly the vocals are below par. Anybody who knows Kaipa really well and did they ever make a masterpiece ?
By the way, page 15 !! Edited by progrules - June 03 2009 at 08:47 |
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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![]() Adam & Eve is indeed a great album, and as you know and mentioned, I love it. Tell us what you think of Flower Power after you've listened to it, as you know, I still need to get it, though not sure if I will ![]() |
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Roj ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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That's pretty much my opinion too Tom. I love the title track. Ryker Skies is just awesome (an all-time IQ fave for me already) and Stronger Than Friction is great. However, the track it was originally (Crashed and Burned) is in my opinion better, a bit more ballsy. The last few minutes of STF is really outstanding though. I love most of The Province but hate the Suppers Ready 9/8/keyboard solo rip-off section. They've already been there once and I really do wish they'd leave Suppers Ready alone.
I have to get this one in. One Fatal Mistake sure was just that!!
Overall I'd probably give it 3.5 stars. Not heard/seen the DVD yet though, so that rating is subject to change.
Sorry for digressing on this elite TFK Appreciation Thread
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Roland113 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 30 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Status: Offline Points: 3843 |
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Good for you Roj, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Adam and Eve is actually growing on me, though it's still in my lower echelon of Flower King CD's. Flower Power I've really been enjoying lately. Speaking of things in my mailbox . . . Frequency arrived the other day, I've given it a few listens and have a mixed review so far. Some songs are great, other songs are unremarkable to my ears. The look of the CD is great and the extra DVD is a lot of fun. Great live version of The Seventh House on it. |
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Roj ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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Well the final two TFK albums have arrived in Roj's mail box.
Adam & Eve has been given a spin, and on first hearing, contrary to most opinion I'm really impressed. I wasn't expecting too much, as there is only really Pablo who rates this one highly, but initially I love it.
Love Supreme made a really big impression on me straight away. Strong Yes influence but a really great piece. There's not many epics by TFK that have hit me first time but this is one of them. It all appeared to dovetail together really well, very cohesive. Driver's Seat, Babylon and A Vampire's View are really good too.
Next, and finally, it's the megathon that is Flower Power........... It will have to wait though as I won't get much listening time this week!!
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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If he can take a bit of jazz, then Space Revolver must be IT! A masterpiece of Symphonic Prog, with jazzy leanings.
If he really likes jazz(fusion), and complex prog stuff, then Unfold the Future.
If you just want to give him a Symhponic Prog album, with excellent musicianship, then give him Retropolis or Sum of no Evil.
If you want a starter album, I would go for Space Revolver.
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Roland113 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 30 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Status: Offline Points: 3843 |
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Like Infandous I started with Retropolis as well and it too hooked me so I would recommend Retropolis as a starting point. It's easily accessable with a lot of references to more familliar bands like Yes and Genesis. Also, as Prog Kid Joel pointed out, his Dad is already appreciative of Prog Rock, I wouldn't want to start him out on arguably their best CD. Just about everyone says that Retropolis is at least good but some of their later CD's are even better. Rather than starting out a new fan with their best output, I'd recommend giving him a bit of room to grow into the band. Give him a chance to grow in to a band rather than start at a pinnacle with the possibility of everything being downhill from there. |
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Strangely enough, I agree with this recommendation ![]() I would be inclined to suggest Retropolis, because that was my first and it hooked me completely on just one listen, but I get the sense that other folks don't hold it in nearly as high esteem as I do. And Space Revolver is just an all around great introduction to the band, having lots of variety and some of their best songs (and I can't imagine any Yes fan that wouldn't love the finale of I AM THE SUN). |
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wizardian37 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2009 Location: Stockholm Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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I like the Stardust We Are, as it's also my first TFK album.
I was pleasantly surprised by the brand new "Songs From The Liar's Lair" -album by fellow progsters Ageness from Finland. That really made my summer :)
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Roj ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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Well Joel, my recommendation would be definitely Space Revolver. It's a consistently brilliant album and I found it very accessible (some TFK albums take quite a few spins to "get into"). The material is varied, mainly symphonic but with jazzy interludes and some truly stunning ambient parts. Also, it's a single disc so may be the best starter. I find it hard to imagine how any true prog fan could NOT find something to love on this album.
I personally started with Stardust We Are, and that's my favourite TFK album, but for a smaller package that's very high on quality and consistency, I'd recommend Space Revolver. I'd be interested to see what the rest of the fanboys think!
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progkidjoel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
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Can someone please reccomend a good begginer's album from The Flower Kings?
I'm buying a CD for my dad as a thankyou for him buying me about 12 Marillion albums on eBay in the last 3 months, and I've heard alot of good about this band. He usually listens to Symphonic prog, mainly YES, Genesis and ELP, but he also LOVED "This Strange Engine" by Marillion, and also really enjoyed his birthday gift (From a loving son) of Porcupine "Tree's Stupid Dream"... thanks for all help, -Joel G |
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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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A little late my contribution to the Unfold discussion; well it's not going to be a true participation to the discussion but I just wanted to drop this interesting experience.
Since a few days I'm occasionally listening to Morow.com and yesterday evening I heard the whole, yes indeed the ENTIRE Truth will set you free there (31 minutes !). Great experience to hear that on this internet radio. Somehow it seems different from playing it from your own CD, I don't know why.
Highly recommended to check this website out by the way, they play some great songs and it's ideal to check out unknown bands and songs !
Anyone who was already listening for some time ?
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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Here's my The Garden review by Unitopia: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=217512
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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^ha, glad we agree on that!
![]() However, I'm not the proper one to say it's their most mature one, since I still haven't heard Stardust nor Flower Power, so...you might be right on that |
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