Political discussion thread

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*spits coffee on computer screen*

Christmas came early this year in the form of a letter from Roger Ebert to Bill O'Reilly:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090407/COMMENTARY/904079997/-1/RSS

Slartibartfast wrote: crimhead wrote: I have always said that since the President is limited to 2 terms the same rules should apply to Congress and the Senate. Why should they work to get re-elected instead of doing the job that they were voted in to do. How many days do they work in a term and how much time do they spend away from Washington campaigning for their next term? I don't think that the framers of the Constitution envisioned public servants being lifelong titles. I don't see this changing for they enjoyed the perks as well as the health care that the majority of Americans seem not to have. Rather amusing that the legislative branch initiated term limits for the executive but didn't see fit to take care of themselves at the time. Well, since I've been reading some disparaging comments about my cartoon linkings, here's some more annoying cartoons for you : Those Darned Toxic Assets

Can't say that I was ever offended by the cartoons.....seeing I am as guilty as the next man. The cartoons work both ways. There is nothing stopping either side of the political spectrum from having their say. Political cartoons have been around as long as there has been politics.

As a libertarian, I cannot support the manner in which the Bush adminstration was run, and am sadly worried about the direction of President Obama's adminstration. Hopefully, he will not give us more us the same; unfortunately, it seems that we learned nothing over the past 8 years about excessive and imprudent government spending. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and believe an intelligent man like himself can conjure up a better solution than digging us deeper into debt (which he is doing at the moment).

Atkingani wrote: Gustavo Froes wrote: Raff wrote: This time I agree with David. We do have the same problem in Italy, with members of both houses of Parliament being elected over and over again, well into their '70s and '80s, leaving little space to younger people - and of course enjoying a lot of privileges that the general population can only dream of. That said, I think that people are responsible for many of the things that happen, both in the US and elsewhere in the West. We are not helpless victims of military coups (as happens to the populations of far too many countries in the world), and indifference has its price. Politicians are just the expression of those who put them in office - I know it is true for Italy, and I suppose it is in most countries. The 'common' people should learn to fight for what it is really important, instead of accepting everything as inevitable. But the US can't afford to make a mistake related to who they put in the office-not at the current stage of things. If my own country decides to elect a man who has sh*t instead of brains(for instance our current beloved president),that's ok,it's our problem to deal with,and my country's population is almost entirely composed by complete ignorants anyway(it hurts me to say so,but being these last 7 years disastrous to our internal economy as they were,it's the only compliment I feel able to offer).America,on the other hand,will cause collateral damage in the world for every wrong decision that is made.And the rest of the world is in constant watch,making it even more dangerous.I'm not completely convinced about Obama,but honestly,taking in consideration what has been reported from Iran and North Korea in recent times,I also believe if Mccain got elected we could start talking about one big war in a near future.   The 7 years you mention were 1995-2002, perhaps, no?

...not quite.

Raff wrote: This time I agree with David. We do have the same problem in Italy, with members of both houses of Parliament being elected over and over again, well into their '70s and '80s, leaving little space to younger people - and of course enjoying a lot of privileges that the general population can only dream of. That said, I think that people are responsible for many of the things that happen, both in the US and elsewhere in the West. We are not helpless victims of military coups (as happens to the populations of far too many countries in the world), and indifference has its price. Politicians are just the expression of those who put them in office - I know it is true for Italy, and I suppose it is in most countries. The 'common' people should learn to fight for what it is really important, instead of accepting everything as inevitable.

But the US can't afford to make a mistake related to who they put in the office-not at the current stage of things.
If my own country decides to elect a man who has sh*t instead of brains(for instance our current beloved president),that's ok,it's our problem to deal with,and my country's population is almost entirely composed by complete ignorants anyway(it hurts me to say so,but being these last 7 years disastrous to our internal economy as they were,it's the only compliment I feel able to offer).America,on the other hand,will cause collateral damage in the world for every wrong decision that is made.And the rest of the world is in constant watch,making it even more dangerous.I'm not completely convinced about Obama,but honestly,taking in consideration what has been reported from Iran and North Korea in recent times,I also believe if Mccain got elected we could start talking about one big war in a near future.

As I stated before somewhere here, there are 2 major crimes of the century (no, not the Supertramp, album, fer cryin...) 1- apathy and 2- easy judgment. Now that there are so few new disposable thrills left to squander, the world seems to enjoy the right to pre-judge everyone and everything. I guess anyone can claim to have a PhD in psychiatry/sociology , no one having the guts or the time to check credentials but why is it that the rest of the world is ready to embrace the freshness of a new president (after such a GWB ding-dong at best =after 8 years , we can now start judging, it's called history) , while here many Americans are not even giving the man time to get comfortable, calling  him a marxist/ socialist. Frankly, "fanged-eagle", in my numerous travels to the USA, I have met few yanks who actually even know what communism is about and how to correctly decipher one in a crowd. If Obama is a commie then he is pretty darn retarded (as well as late for the Party, LOLOLOLOL) as there are only 2-3 communist governments left in the world. It is a proven failure, economically, politically, socially and philosophically. Ask Eastern Europeans what they lived through behind the Wall (no, not the Floyd album) and you realize that imbeciles come in various colors (red, white and f***ing blue) , that political parties that were once on the left are now on the right , or whichever way the bloody wind blows. Give the guy a chance, you remind me of the famous joke in the 70s , when a visiting US journalist to Moscow stated to a group of students that America is so free than any US citizen can overtly claim that president Nixon is an idiot, to which one sheepish CPSU card-holder replied" Pff, the Soviet Union is so free that any Soviet citizen can boldly state publicly that Nixon is a moron"  Obama may turn out to be many things, even bad ones  but a socialist , I doubt it,. Since past history seems to be the motto, going back to being emperor was a rather a Bush family thing, no? At least the election was fair this time around, hahahaha! What's next, Obama being an agent of North Korea, like the original Manchurian Candidate   ?

Edited by tszirmay - April 05 2009 at 18:29

birdwithteeth11 wrote: *Sighs* I'm not expecting him to fail. Especially since his success is our success. I just disagree with the things he's done so far. Also, even apparently after my explanation and silly emoticons, I am not trying to anger people. Although in hindsight I probably should have made it more obvious that I was being sarcastic with that comment. And lastly, to say that it's just Obama that I'm upset at isn't true. I'm rather angry at the elitists who run Congress and only care about getting re-elected. In fact, they've angered me more than Obama has at this point. But like you said, he's only been around for three months whereas some of these clowns have been around for almost three years.

I have always said that since the President is limited to 2 terms the same rules should apply to Congress and the Senate. Why should they work to get re-elected instead of doing the job that they were voted in to do. How many days do they work in a term and how much time do they spend away from Washington campaigning for their next term? I don't think that the framers of the Constitution envisioned public servants being lifelong titles. I don't see this changing for they enjoyed the perks as well as the health care that the majority of Americans seem not to have.

I am absolutely astounded..... This country (where I have chosen to live) is experiencing one of the worst crises in its history (and it's a worldwide crisis too), and all people like you seem to be able to do is to rub their hands in glee, expecting your new president (sworn into office less than three months ago) to FAIL. I'm sorry, but I really don't get it...

And, BTW, someone who aims at making people angry is generally called a troll...

I do hope that chainmail was posted in jest because that is one of the worst things I've ever read...Same with that "glossary". I'm not even a democrat, but people need to stop being SO STUPID.

Edited by Henry Plainview - April 05 2009 at 00:31