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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2009 at 23:51
It smells like dip and rusty pickup trucks in here.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2009 at 23:50
I once read a bumper sticker that said something along the lines of "If you're not pissed off, you haven't been paying attention."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2009 at 23:45
Time to actually make some people angry.LOL



There was a Pied Piper who said,
“We live in the greatest country in the world.  Help me change it!” 
*And the people said, “Change is good!”

Then he said, “We are going to tax the rich fat-cats,”…
*And the people said “Sock it to them!”

“and redistribute their wealth.” 
*And the people said, “Show me the money!”

And then he said, “Redistribution of wealth is good for everybody” 
*And Joe the plumber said, are you kidding me?”

And Joe’s personal records were hacked and publicized. 
*And one lone reporter asked, “Isn’t that Marxist policy?”

And she was banished from the kingdom! 
Then someone asked, “With no foreign relations experience, how will you deal with radical terrorists?”

And the Pied Piper said, “Simple.  I’ll sit down and talk with them and show them how nice we really are and they’ll forget that they ever wanted to kill us all!”

Then the Pied Piper said, “I’ll give 95% of you lower taxes.” 
*And one, lone voice said, “But 40% of us don’t pay ANY taxes.”

So the Pied Piper said, “Then I’ll give you some of the taxes the fat-cats pay!” 
*And the people said, “Show me the money!”

Then the Pied Piper said, “I’ll tax your Capital Gains when you sell your homes!” 
*And the people yawned and the slumping housing market collapsed.

And he said, “I’ll mandate employer- funded health care for EVERY worker and raise the minimum wage.” 
*And the people said, “Gim’me some of that!”

Then he said, “I’ll penalize employers who ship jobs overseas.” 
*And the people said, “Where’s my rebate check?”

Then the Pied Piper actually said, “I’ll bankrupt the coal industry and electricity rates will skyrocket!” 
*And the people said, “Coal is dirty, coal is evil, no more coal!  But we don’t care for that part about higher electric rates.”

So the Pied Piper said, “Not to worry.  If your rebate isn’t enough to cover your expenses, we’ll bail you out.  Just sign up with ACORN and your troubles are over!”  Then he said, “Illegal immigrants feel scorned and slighted.  Let’s grant them amnesty, Social Security, free education, free lunches, free medical care, bi-lingual signs and guaranteed housing.”  
*And the people said, “Ole`! Bravo!”  And they made him King!

And so it came to pass that employers, facing spiraling costs and ever-higher taxes, raised their prices and laid off workers.  Others simply gave up and went out of business and the economy slowed even further.  Then the Pied Piper said, “I am the Messiah and I’m here to save you!  We’ll just print more money so everyone will have enough!”  But our foreign trading partners said, “Wait a minute.  Your dollar isn’t worth what it was.  You’ll have to pay more.” 
*And the people said, “Wait a minute. That’s not fair!”

And the world said, “Neither are these other, idiotic programs you’ve embraced.  You’ve become a Socialist state and a second-rate power.  Now you’ll play by our rules!” 
*And the people said, “What have we done?”

But it was too late. 
If you think this is a fairy tale, open your eyes and ears. It’s happening RIGHT NOW! 
Did you know the president’s name is really an acronym…
One Big Astounding Mistake  America
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 15:36
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Time for me to anger some people again.LOL

Speaking Obama
by Jeffrey Jena

In the past few days there have been several reports about officials, high and low, using new politically correct language to describe things which have been around awhile.

The best example is the new head of the Department of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, refusing to use the word “terrorist.”  She preferred describing terrorist actions as “Man Caused Disasters.”

The problem with politically correct speech is that it hides the obvious. Even Big Freakin’ Hillbillies like me understand an illegal immigrant is someone who broke the law to get into this country. We of simple minds get confused when folks from the Ivy League start describing them as “migrants.” To us, migrants are plain spoken folk, those who waited in line, did the right thing and came here in accordance with our laws.

In order for us morons on the right to understand the newspeak of the Obama administration I offer this glossary of terms before and after being “Obamized.” Feel free to add to my list while you are still able.

Old Bush/Cheney/Halliburton Hate Speech - Obama Speak

Terrorist - Misunderstood Islamic Freedom Fighter

Terrorist Act - Man Caused Disaster

Wealth Redistribution Scam - Global Warming

Global Warming - Climate Change

Freedom Tower - Chinese World Business Headquarters

Enemy Combatant - Victim of Bush Chaney War Crimes

Illegal Immigrant - Migrant/Democrat Voter

Global War on Terror - Overseas Contingency Operation

Axis of Evil - Islamic Republic of Iran

Socialism - Government Friendly Capitalism

Welfare - Tax Rebate

Businessman - Greed Monger

Entrepreneur - Government Revenue Enhancer

Middle Class - Rich

Republican -Taxpayer

Conservative - Klansman

Abortion - Reproductive Rights

Unfettered Abortion - Embryonic Stem Cell Research

Windfall Profits Tax - Cap and Trade

Volunteer - Americorps Political Activist

On Time Mortgage Payer - Chump

Marxist/Socialist Liberalism - Historic Presidency

Dollar - Global Currency

Reeducation Camp - Job Training

Health Care - Socialized Medicine

Wall Street - U.S. Department of Economic Control

Rehashed Clinton Administration - Change You Can Believe In

Conservative Supreme Court Justice - Homophobe

Private Property - Future Government Acquisition

Bipartisanship - Do It Our Way

Contract Provision - Government Oversight

Seek input from across the aisle - We won, sit down and shut up

Private Enterprise - Future Federal Employment Project

Unemployment - Idleness Compensation Program

National Security Issue - Law Enforcement Problem

Defend and Protect the Constitution - If It Fits My Agenda




I don't agree with this. Call a spade a spade. If someone gets offended oh well. I don't agree that a Terrorist = Man caused disaster. If we improperly engineer a dam or a bridge and a disaster happens from them it is not the same as a man blowing up a bomb or shooting someone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 14:57
Time for me to anger some people again.LOL

Speaking Obama
by Jeffrey Jena

In the past few days there have been several reports about officials, high and low, using new politically correct language to describe things which have been around awhile.

The best example is the new head of the Department of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, refusing to use the word “terrorist.”  She preferred describing terrorist actions as “Man Caused Disasters.”

The problem with politically correct speech is that it hides the obvious. Even Big Freakin’ Hillbillies like me understand an illegal immigrant is someone who broke the law to get into this country. We of simple minds get confused when folks from the Ivy League start describing them as “migrants.” To us, migrants are plain spoken folk, those who waited in line, did the right thing and came here in accordance with our laws.

In order for us morons on the right to understand the newspeak of the Obama administration I offer this glossary of terms before and after being “Obamized.” Feel free to add to my list while you are still able.

Old Bush/Cheney/Halliburton Hate Speech - Obama Speak

Terrorist - Misunderstood Islamic Freedom Fighter

Terrorist Act - Man Caused Disaster

Wealth Redistribution Scam - Global Warming

Global Warming - Climate Change

Freedom Tower - Chinese World Business Headquarters

Enemy Combatant - Victim of Bush Chaney War Crimes

Illegal Immigrant - Migrant/Democrat Voter

Global War on Terror - Overseas Contingency Operation

Axis of Evil - Islamic Republic of Iran

Socialism - Government Friendly Capitalism

Welfare - Tax Rebate

Businessman - Greed Monger

Entrepreneur - Government Revenue Enhancer

Middle Class - Rich

Republican -Taxpayer

Conservative - Klansman

Abortion - Reproductive Rights

Unfettered Abortion - Embryonic Stem Cell Research

Windfall Profits Tax - Cap and Trade

Volunteer - Americorps Political Activist

On Time Mortgage Payer - Chump

Marxist/Socialist Liberalism - Historic Presidency

Dollar - Global Currency

Reeducation Camp - Job Training

Health Care - Socialized Medicine

Wall Street - U.S. Department of Economic Control

Rehashed Clinton Administration - Change You Can Believe In

Conservative Supreme Court Justice - Homophobe

Private Property - Future Government Acquisition

Bipartisanship - Do It Our Way

Contract Provision - Government Oversight

Seek input from across the aisle - We won, sit down and shut up

Private Enterprise - Future Federal Employment Project

Unemployment - Idleness Compensation Program

National Security Issue - Law Enforcement Problem

Defend and Protect the Constitution - If It Fits My Agenda


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2009 at 02:15
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I don't agree with Rush on much, but I certainly support his right to speak.  There is another guy named Michael Savage who makes Rush look like a choir boy, and I support his right to speak as well.  The thought of the police charging people for their opinions is chilling.  I lean Left on most issues, but sometimes it is the liberals who frighten me with political correctness.

The police should worry about physical violence, not opinions and words. (And I'm sure Uncle Frank Zappa would back me on that.)


Michael Savage cracks me up at times. Remember he got fired from MSNBC for telling a guy to choke on a sausage and get AIDS and die. Good stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 16:39
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

a slippery slope indeed... the point is of course... where to start.. where to stop...

who decides that ... a government that has shown more times than not that it isn't our best interests they have at heart.. but it's own...  

no... free speech is just that... with the knowledge that it isn't without condition...that one's free speech stops where another's rights begin..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 16:37
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

At least it doesn't refer to him as "Barack the magic Negro" like Rush Limbaugh did.

http://www.freakingnews.com/Barack-the-Magician-Pictures-63519.asp


Interesting. This nutcase would never get away with that in the UK - he would almost certainly be charged by the police if not already hounded out by the media.


Meh. I've seen much worse critique of Obama so far. I thought it was going to be another picture that portrayed him as a stereotypical "ignorant/stupid black man" or dropped the N-word.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 16:37
I think you're right that we best not get into this one. Wink   


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 16:34
a slippery slope indeed... the point is of course... where to start.. where to stop...

who decides that ... a government that has shown more times than not that it isn't our best interests they have at heart.. but it's own...  

no... free speech is just that... with the knowledge that it isn't without condition...that one's free speech stops where another's rights begin..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 16:34
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

So the US Government is in the automotive business now. It just gets better with every passing day.

Any other sarcastic remarks for now?Wink


hahaha... hopefully they'll run it better than idiots that can't tell which way the wind blows....

wonder how much of a parachute bonus the motherf**ker from GM got for running that company into the ground...

Oh god. Don't make me think of that.DeadLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 16:27
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

I don't agree with Rush on much, but I certainly support his right to speak.  There is another guy named Michael Savage who makes Rush look like a choir boy, and I support his right to speak as well.  The thought of the police charging people for their opinions is chilling.  I lean Left on most issues, but sometimes it is the liberals who frighten me with political correctness.

The police should worry about physical violence, not opinions and words. (And I'm sure Uncle Frank Zappa would back me on that.)


You know, Jim, in principle I agree with you, but I also know from experience that words can be as violent as actions, and have a very negative effect on people. However, this is a very slippery slope, and a subject so thorny that I'd rather not go into it now. Just remember.... Hitler was voted into office, and before he resorted to outright violence, he influenced people's minds with his words.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 16:25
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:



The police should worry about physical violence, not opinions and words. (And I'm sure Uncle Frank Zappa would back me on that.)


hahhaha.. I'm sure you'll find that sentiment on one of Zappa's 100 odd albums somewhere I'm sure. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 16:17
I don't agree with Rush on much, but I certainly support his right to speak.  There is another guy named Michael Savage who makes Rush look like a choir boy, and I support his right to speak as well.  The thought of the police charging people for their opinions is chilling.  I lean Left on most issues, but sometimes it is the liberals who frighten me with political correctness.

The police should worry about physical violence, not opinions and words. (And I'm sure Uncle Frank Zappa would back me on that.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 15:45
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

At least it doesn't refer to him as "Barack the magic Negro" like Rush Limbaugh did.

http://www.freakingnews.com/Barack-the-Magician-Pictures-63519.asp


Interesting. This nutcase would never get away with that in the UK - he would almost certainly be charged by the police if not already hounded out by the media.

Do you regard it as a good thing that these views can be aired in USA? I am generally a libertarian socialist, so believe very much in freedom of speech, even if it offends. This can be a difficult position to take sometimes though!


I share your political affiliation, and as a citizen of a country who was under a dictatorship less than seventy years ago (I am Italian by birth, though now I live in the US), I am all too aware of the importance of freedom of speech. However, I can't help wondering at the way people seem to be abusing of this freedom. Whenever I read things like, "if it offends you, that's your problem, not mine", I can't help thinking this is just another form of violence. I firmly believe that my freedom ends when someone else's begins, and this is why I always hold myself in check even when I'd like to respond to someone in a very aggressive way (and it happens quite often, believe me).

Anyway, in my humble view of things, those to resort to slander and name-calling to make their point are severely flawed. Constructive criticism is not easy to achieve, but I believe smart, reasonable people can do it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 15:42
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

So the US Government is in the automotive business now. It just gets better with every passing day.

Any other sarcastic remarks for now?Wink


hahaha... hopefully they'll run it better than idiots that can't tell which way the wind blows....

wonder how much of a parachute bonus the motherf**ker from GM got for running that company into the ground...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 15:35
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

So the US Government is in the automotive business now. It just gets better with every passing day.

Any other sarcastic remarks for now?Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 13:33
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

At least it doesn't refer to him as "Barack the magic Negro" like Rush Limbaugh did.

http://www.freakingnews.com/Barack-the-Magician-Pictures-63519.asp


Interesting. This nutcase would never get away with that in the UK - he would almost certainly be charged by the police if not already hounded out by the media.

Do you regard it as a good thing that these views can be aired in USA? I am generally a libertarian socialist, so believe very much in freedom of speech, even if it offends. This can be a difficult position to take sometimes though!


I think that Rush is pandering to the 10% of the Republican party that want to hear this crap. I heard the song. It was stupid. Much like most of the parodies that he does. He can say whatever he wants as long as it doesn't bring violence towards anyone. All he is doing is helping to bring the Republican party down.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2009 at 13:28
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

At least it doesn't refer to him as "Barack the magic Negro" like Rush Limbaugh did.

http://www.freakingnews.com/Barack-the-Magician-Pictures-63519.asp


Interesting. This nutcase would never get away with that in the UK - he would almost certainly be charged by the police if not already hounded out by the media.

Do you regard it as a good thing that these views can be aired in USA? I am generally a libertarian socialist, so believe very much in freedom of speech, even if it offends. This can be a difficult position to take sometimes though!
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At least it doesn't refer to him as "Barack the magic Negro" like Rush Limbaugh did.

http://www.freakingnews.com/Barack-the-Magician-Pictures-63519.asp
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