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visitor2035
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Topic: Am i missing the point? Posted: March 22 2009 at 20:14 |
Maybe it's just me, but why would you want to go and see a bunch of amateur/professionals, or whatever, musicians making money out of doing either covers or tracks similar to the ones you can go out and buy from the shops for the real thing?
I have never understood tribute acts, unless taking money from the gulible man/woman (would hate to upset the hu(wo)man rights brigade) in the street. I have heard all the arguments about, never having seen the real thing live....but you can't beat originality. Prog tribute bands are a bit like movie remakes....interesting, but non-essential and normally very second rate. If you want the real thing, wait till they come around or buy their albums....second best should never be good enough for prog. |
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: March 22 2009 at 21:18 |
I agree. Tribute albums may be interesting after the band has had a long, worthy-of-tribute career (like most prog classics or in the metyal world Black Sabbath or others like that)... but when I see "Tribute to Linkin Park" or even "Tribute to Tool" (they may be good but please!... They're still active!!!) I just know it's a cash-cow...
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Finnforest
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 16913 |
Posted: March 22 2009 at 21:25 |
Also agree. With SO much great original music out there to discover, it strikes me as a huge waist of time and money to buy a tribute album. Totally disinterested in it.
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TheCaptain
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2009 Location: Ohio, USA Status: Offline Points: 1335 |
Posted: March 22 2009 at 21:34 |
I agree that tribute albums are completely ridiculous. On the other hand I believe that live tribute bands are quite good. I have never been alive at a time that a Genesis with Peter Gabriel or even Steve Hackett was still with the band. So The Musical Box tribute band is a welcome experience. It's a good way to see the energy that comes with a live act. Tribute bands for acts that are still active or have recently gone on hiatus are pretty stupid.
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Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
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InvisibleUnicorns
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 18 2009 Status: Offline Points: 130 |
Posted: March 22 2009 at 21:38 |
Not all tribute albums are ridiculous. The Easy Stars All-Stars' reggae takes on Dark Side of the Moon and OK Computer are both quite good (if you like reggae).
But unless you're going to drastically reimagine an album in that vein, yes, it's pointless. |
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Finnforest
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 21:38 |
Brings to mind the one exception I would note: I really enjoyed watching Dream Theater perform "Dark Side of the Moon" in its entirety. Of course it wasn't PF, but honestly, they did a damn admirable job and it was alot of fun for Dark Side fans. Good DVD if you like Floyd and have a chance to see it. |
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Chris S
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Posted: March 23 2009 at 01:36 |
I think it is great for people who enjoy that kind of thing. For me I find it the total opposite of what I want from watching band - authenticity and originality.
People will argue that is the whole point of being a Tribute Band but I would always perceive them as not being able to crack it ' Themselves" hence going the Tribute route. Of course there are tons of brilliant bands/musicians that never see the light of day in terms of reaching the market so as long as these musicians are getting a lot out of it , all good.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: March 23 2009 at 02:32 |
I like covers if they're creative, but in general I prefer live renditions to studio tributes. There's nothing like a good ol' timeless tune played by a bunch of talented guys at a gig!
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Kotro
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 16 2004 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 2815 |
Posted: March 23 2009 at 06:11 |
Yeah, let's get rid of all those posers playing other people's music, starting with the orchestras and philarmonics, 'cause they've been here longer.
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Bigger on the inside.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: March 23 2009 at 07:28 |
I wouldn't buy a tribute acts CD I guess, but hell, I'd see a tribute act live if they can be creative with the songs, turn them into their own while keeping the touch and feel of the original.
What some people in this thread seem to forget is sometimes, the original band can't tour certain places at all. So what people gonna do in that circumstance? The next best thing, see the tribute band of course. Living in Australia, I can tell you know it's common for bands to not tour Australia at all because breaking even is pretty hard here for international acts, let alone making money. |
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Negoba
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: March 23 2009 at 14:57 |
Live tribute acts make alot of sense.
Tribute albums aren't that different than any other cover, sometimes it's interesting to hear your favorite act take on a song or your favorite music interpreted. But with so much great original music out there, why spend your music buck on covers unless it's really superb?
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Owlchops
Forum Newbie Joined: March 21 2009 Status: Offline Points: 24 |
Posted: March 30 2009 at 05:54 |
I'd go further and say tribute bands have had a negative impact overall , as so many smaller UK venues will only book them (or at least mainly book them) , making it even harder for struggling new bands, playing originals, to get a gig at all.
Tribute bands have definitely been a major contributing factor in the decline of the live circuit for new talent.
In view of this I have to say I regard tribute bands in an extremely negative light.
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Owlchops
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Posted: March 30 2009 at 05:55 |
Tribute albums on the other hand, are comparatively benign.
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Negoba
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: March 30 2009 at 12:40 |
Wow, that's very different than the US. Tribute Bands are a novelty and pretty fun. They're not squeezing out any original bands at all. Of course, lots of small bars hire cover bands or bands that mix originals and covers, but that's how you move up.
DJs however have taken over many venues that could and should be using live bands. I think it's just cheaper.
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crimhead
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Posted: March 30 2009 at 12:45 |
Agreed. Support your local music scene. There are plenty of live bands out there that need our support. |
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lazland
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Posted: March 30 2009 at 13:23 |
Generally I agree that most tribute bands are a waste of time, and I certainly won't waste my money on their LPs.
However, having said that, I did go to see Australian Pink Floyd in Narberth, West Wales about nine years ago (this was before, incredibly, they became a large arena band). They were good, but having seen the original do The Wall, obviously not a patch on the original. I also quite like established bands doing tributes - the Mostly Autumn Pink Floyd DVD comes to mind - there was some good stuff on that. In summary, established artists/bands paying tribute is okay. Tribute bands fill a need for some to see live the bands who, for some reason, they never saw live (i.e. too young), or have a insatiable need to revisit them when the band themselves no longer are extant, and they are generally worthless. BTW - what do people who have seen Yes this year with the tribute band singer reckon to it all? Classic Rock Prog Special gave them an almost rave review. |
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Negoba
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Posted: March 30 2009 at 14:29 |
Yes in the Present was unbelievable. I loved it, since I had not seen Yes before. My friend who had seen them several times before said this was a very good show, that the singer did admirable job, but of course it would have been better with Jon Anderson.
I thought he was very professional. He sang all the parts spot on, but let Squire and Howe do most of the talking.
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Dick Heath
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 07:56 |
The challenge is to do a cover and bring a new worthwhile arrangement to it. Easy Star All Stars are an excellent example of a group of musicians added to the original. The first Phish album I bought was alive cover of the whole of the Beatles' White Album - anybody want a cheap copy of Phish doing the White Album, hardly played? There are a couple of covers taken from Lamb Lies Down - e.g. by Jeff Buckley or Paul Gilbert that work (as much as I love Kevin Gilbert or Shaun Guerin's voices, I don't they don't add much else here) and then I have mixed feelings with the recent double, Rewiring Genesis (apart from the transposing of the instrumental arrangements to an orchestra, little else was obvious wrt change) - compare this against Yngve Guddal & Roger Matte's arrangements of Genesis tunes on Genesis For Two Grand Pianos.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 12:41 |
Most of the times I'm not interested in tribute bands, but I have to say: it was nice to The Musical Box perform the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway show with all the original costumes and slide shows. You have an idea how it was back then, even if it wasn't the real thing.
But I must say, I never buy tribute albums, and I don't think I ever will.
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Logan
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Posted: March 31 2009 at 12:48 |
I'm not interested in tribute bands, but can enjoy tribute albums, especially if done creatively. I like Hamtaï! Hommage à la musique de Christian Vander
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