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Mandrakeroot 
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
 Posted: January 19 2009 at 10:11 |
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This is my last review that I post in this place for IP study:
BATTIATO, FRANCO — D.O.C.
Review by Mandrakeroot (Andrea Salvador) — First review of this album —
Inn truth it is diffucult the construction of a good 'The Best Of Battiato (Avant Garde POP)' but in this case this construction is O.k.. I am not a true Franco Battiato's fans (like Micky) but for me Franco Battiato is one of the pure genious of Italian music and in this sense this compilation is great. All 15 songs are good; some are more POP, some are pseudo Prog and some are really Prog POP song with Avant Garde treatment. But in every case Battiato's Avant Garde POP provoke in me strange vibrations. In fact this type of music for me it is true Prog! Clear for you this music is only POP... But this is the reason because Franco Battiato is a pure genious! and proper because Franco Battiato is a pure genious, Battiato's music is great! Simple for this axiom I love Franco Battiato's music. In the case of this volume of 'D.O.C.' series all the songs are evergreen of Battiato's and Italian music because all Battiato's songs are evergreen! other words are appreciated but not fundamentals. Speaking of music Battiato's songs are a great cradle of oddities: synths for... Drums or guitars or for pure wants to use... Vocals with one time signature... Melodies with another time signature... Rhythmic session with... Another time signature... But all created for the perfect creation a pure madness melodies... Melodic melodies... Sweet melodies... Sure armonic mental armonies. Because yes... franco Battiato song concept is not easy! And the lyrics... Yes, and the lyrics? Difficult to decipher them... Even studying, they are not easy. We must know the Battiato thought to be able to decipher these lyrics... If you are genious...! Since Franco Battiato is a simple, sincere and honest person (from what I understand studied), I remain very impressed by the messages that Battiato's songs contain and I see the complexity of battiato's songs the redemption of modern Italian music to the masterpieces of the Italian music of the past centuries. Logical that this is another point of force about my Battiato's musical love. If you want to start the study of Franco Battiato, genius artist, I recommended this compilation for EMI's Avant Garde POP period and for the 70's 'Gli Anni Settanta' --------------------------For the same reason i post in this place also this review:
BATTIATO, FRANCO - Gli Anni Settanta
 My review is produced using this release: BMG Ricordi S.p.A. 74321602622
Rating:7,5/10 A double CD compilation of 70's Battiato production? Well... Is good. But the listening... Is impossible!!! Because is true in the 70's Battiato passed from Experimental music to Krautrock to Fluxus music... And in Fluxus period Battiato is a simply composer. But this compilation is much complete. "Gli Anni Settanta" isn't a simply compilation. Because "Gli Anni Settanta" is the discovery of the insanity applied to the music. That, then, is music? Well... In more composition is only a strange picture of Informal Art or Fluxus. Battiato doesn't respect the logics of the market, Stockausen is the teacher... But also the "Illogical logic" succeeds to kidnap its mind. Not for case in some compositions are fundamental the not musical elements (see the old radio records in "Ethika Fon Ethika") that they give back impossible the listening of these compositions. Impossible music for impossible minds. But, if you loved the challenges thic compilation is for you!!! |
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DamoXt7942
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Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: January 19 2009 at 09:34 |
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Wow, I'm gonna be busier...
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 19 2009 at 09:30 |
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Red Moon Records is a good record shop for collectors. Of course in the catalog has everything that was in the shop. But you can order at will because he orders the CDs/ LPs/ DVDs in various place (also South Korea!), if available at catalogue.
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DamoXt7942
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Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: January 19 2009 at 09:20 |
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Thanks Mandy, you're really a great Italian progressive rock specialist!
Soon I've been a btf newsletter member.
Paper sleeve CDs (in Japanese, Kami-Jake) are exactly precious for us progressive rock fans.
However, in Japan we can get only comparatively famous albums...not famous but great albums we can't get easily. |
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rosenbach
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Posted: January 19 2009 at 04:44 |
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Hi DamoXt942, i think you can get some good stuff there easily (and cheaper) than some of us; here´s a link to hmv in Japan where you can find minilp sleeves of italian prog classics (Il Rovescio della Medaglia, Il Volo, Museo Roenbach, Cervello, Quella Vechia Locanda, Reale Accademia di Musica, etc) now reedited and almost 800 yens cheaper than the last time they appeared.
http://www.hmv.co.jp/fl/4/5/2/page/3/ Edited by rosenbach - January 19 2009 at 04:54 |
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 19 2009 at 04:23 |
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Here is a list of sites where you can find what you looking for, DamoXt7942:
www.redmoonrecords.com (record shop)
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: January 19 2009 at 01:48 |
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Anyway, let me ask a question, mandy.
It's very hard and difficult for me (Japanese) to get some of Italian progressive rock albums.
Can you get old Italian progressive albums (including now-unreleased) more easily?
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 18 2009 at 05:29 |
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I love italian prog too and mostly Banco, i think they have been one of the most constant IP bands (unlike PFM, Le Orme or New Trolls in the late 70's) and i agree with Alberto, you shoulkd start with their first album and Io son nato libero. About their lyrics we should remember that they supported socialism like some other italian groups of that time (Area for example)[/QUOTE] Well... Area supported communism, to be true.
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rosenbach
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 04:07 |
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I love italian prog too and mostly Banco, i think they have been one of the most constant IP bands (unlike PFM, Le Orme or New Trolls in the late 70's) and i agree with Alberto, you shoulkd start with their first album and Io son nato libero. About their lyrics we should remember that they supported socialism like some other italian groups of that time (Area for example) |
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 16 2009 at 08:27 |
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In this moment I'm listening to 'Serendipity' by PFM and in particular the song 'KNA (Kaleidoscope Neutronic Accelerator)'. This song is a simple POP with a catchy refrain. I think it is one of the most beautiful songs of PFM. The feeling that I forward it is really unique!ù
Great is also the song 'L'Immenso Campo Insensato', another great POP song.
'Serendipity' like me especially for the quality of the songs, even though it has a POP album. And this is important, knowing that it is not easy to stay at some level for all this time (it is from mid 60's that I Quelli/ I Krel/ PFM are at thiese standards)!
Frankly I like very much to that fact. And I noticed that this not be the only similar case in the IP!) |
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 15 2009 at 04:33 |
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Rustichelli & Bordini are excellent!!!
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: January 14 2009 at 11:56 |
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Also other Band to pay attention is this:  |
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 04:33 |
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Well... For me is only a great POWER COMPOSITION by a GREAT BAND!!! Edited by Mandrakeroot - January 14 2009 at 04:34 |
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: January 14 2009 at 04:11 |
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Me?...Just now learnin' 'bout Italian prog...
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 04:07 |
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Well... Frankly, this type of speech are correct... But wrong. Because you see... As' Darwin! ' is a concept album about Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution... I do not understand the attacks of atheism or similar things... Also because the subject is Charles Darwin and his 'theory of Evolution'... And if you have some time the story of Darwin in the brain... Do you understand the significance of this concept album!
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 03:59 |
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Like all IP lyrics!!!
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 03:57 |
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I confirm all
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: January 14 2009 at 01:50 |
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@ Raff: May impressions may be that strong also because the message is so very powerfully delivered. If I only read the lines they don't compare the slightest to the way I feel them when sang by Di Giaccomo.
@NotAProgHead: I don't find Darwin's theory itself or the mention of it offensive. I believe in Darwin's theory myself. What I find offensive is the mention that having a religious faith means close-minded-ness or how that's called. Seems like everyone here understands the other's position (for example I can understand both the position about the Catholic Church and NotAProghead's stand about the Russian Orthodox Church), so let's move on.  Edited by Swan Song - January 14 2009 at 01:51 |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 16:24 |
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Swan Song, do you mean every mention of Darwin and his theory is offensive?
I lived almost half of my life in a country where religions were not welcomed (USSR). Now, though I live in the same city, the church is sometimes too active. I remember parents of one schoolgirl came to the court with a petition against studying Darwin theory in schools. They told their daughter's religious feelings suffer because of this. Isn't it crazy?
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Raff
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 16:05 |
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Well, as a native speaker of Italian, I can tell you that Darwin's original lyrics don't mention anything like nonsense or limited thinking. They just say, "try to think in a slightly different way', which is (sorry for the pun) quite different. The only line I can see as somewhat offensive from your point of view is when it says, "e io stupido ancora a credere/a chi mi dice che la carne è polvere", which should however be read in context - that is, our flesh will not become dust, but be transformed, and in turn give life to other organisms.
That said, I can understand your experience, but as someone who lived for almost 50 years in a country where the Church still holds a lot of sway and tries to dictate people's behaviour, I can understand Banco's stance. |
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O.k., this is is only a good compilation about EMI's Avant Garde POP Battiato's songs. But veru good. Because part of a series of CD named 'D.O.C. (Dischi di Origine Controllata)' (In English: 'D.C.O. (Disc with Controlled Origin)') this isn't a true 'The Best Of...' but the quality is the same quality!
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