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    Posted: January 09 2009 at 08:16
It is strange to write a thread on a theme that really splits PA! However, I writing about this theme and I beat the hilt (sorry for the term not exactly elegant... But I wanted to make my state of mind).
 
I'm Italian and Italian is my heart and my mind. So I think that also Italian Prog is my type of music! Here in PA is present a section called Italian Symphonic Prog... That is not correct because in the world this genre is called RPI, stands for Rock Progressivo Italiano (please in Italian language sir...!!!). This is a movement and not a musical genre. However for PA this is a musical genre. But I do not want to open polemics that are harmful only to conceive.
 
In 1982 I was 4 years but already loved 'Eye In The Sky' by Alan Parsons Project. I love in 1982 I Pooh songs pre 1975, Banco and PFM were not unknown to me in those years, New Trolls, Franco Battiato, Angelo Branduardi or I Delirium (via Ivano Fossati) also, even if with their POP songs. Also I Dik Dik and Alan Sorrenti are known by me.
 
Natural this fact, you say, you're Italian... Do you believe that for a child all this it means little... And when it exploded the Classic metal Revival I followed most the Italian bands like Eldritch, Heimdall, Rhapsody (Of Fire), Labyrinth, DGM, Domine, Macbeth... Which are all in Prog side of this movement!
 
Thanks to ProgArchives and ItalianProg I discovered so many groups of 70's and dozens of sites have been for me a source of inspiration to discover new talent in the RPI (which can not be good ... Unfortunately!).
 
But if you now want to argue: 'As if he pull... The RPI groups sing in Italian language and therefore is easy to say that loves them. he knows the language! ', you are off track. In fact, the lyrics of the RPI are so complicated that some swear are obscure even to those who had written! And the music... The music is not so easy. As the lyrics the music is, in certain songs, obscure as the lyrics.
 
What like me about Italian Prog (All Italian Prog... From RPI To Italian Prog Metal) is the heat that each song/ composition issues. Even in the album that i do not digest. You are free to criticize and hate what I wrote but you can not say that this heat is not noticeable.
 
Because everyone wanted to erase from ISP from PA but then the whole Italian Prog is loved and with high ratings, not only in PA!
 
I love Italian Prog... Italian Prog is my life (as athe women) and I defend and promote Italian Prog until death! That is why I am in this World! Whether you like it or not like it!
 
 
My Italian Prog preferred bands/ artists (in random order):
- PFM;
- New Trolls;
- I Dik Dik;
- I Delirium;
- Il Perigeo;
- Alan Sorrenti;
- Il Baricentro;
- Banco Mutuo Soccorso;
- Area;
- Osage Tribe;
- Franco Battiato;
- Fabrizio De André;
- Angelo Branduardi;
- Opus Avantra;
- Fabio Zuffanti's projects;
- Crystals;
- I GiGanti;
- Alunni Del Sole;
- Nuova Compagnia Di Canto Popolare;
- Goblin
 
 
 
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Andrea.
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Italian Prog is great:Etna has just finished playing and I'm waiting for Augusto Croce's book.
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I'm totally in agreement with you Mandrakeroot and I'm not even Italian! I can't understand someone being a Progressive rock fan and not liking RPI. But,to each his own I guess.To me,Italy and the UK own the Progressive rock world. They produced (and produce) the most incredible bands and music and for me,define what Progressive was and is. Some of the other bands I love,not in your list,are Le Orme,     Semiramis,The Trip,Reale Accademia Di Musica,Osanna , Rovescio Della Medaglia and Balletto Di Bronzo!!! RPI RULES!!!!!!
 
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...with bands like If, J'Accuse and Pennelli di Vermeer, all added to PA in the past 9 months we have prove that there's still more prog coming from bella Italia. And good prog as well.


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Nice one Mandy!
 
As you know i also love Italian prog, it is a realm where you will always find something great, an old hidden gem, a new promising band, there is always something to be proud of.

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                                               I love Italian Prog too Mandy, see Wink :
 
 
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Points: 5872 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2009 at 14:42
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I'm a big fan. I love the passion of the music (the opening few minutes of Zarathustra are incredible for example....love his voice). Then you've got great 70s albums like Felona, Ys, Storia, Uomo di Pezza, Forse etc.

Furthermore, you have bands picking up the gauntlet in the 90s e.g Nuova Era (fantastic album Il Passo Del Soldato), and even today, Bands like Il Bacio Della Medusa show that RPI is alive and kicking, along with live albums from Le Orme etc. I'm even picking up some of the lingo and can sing a few lines of the songs in Italian.

Soon, I might even have to have a dedicated iPod for this genre, as I'll be reaching my capacity limit soon.

Can't understand (and didn't realise) that there was some anti RPI sentiment amongst some forum members to be honest. Even so, if you like a certain style of music, who gives a **** what other people think eh!


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I was not yet a teenager when the whole RPI movement was moving its first steps. My first experiences as a prog listener were with the likes of Le Orme, Banco and PFM (whose songs were frequently played by the national radio stations), and my very first prog album was Delirium's Dolce acqua (for the whole story, check my review). As time went by, I felt more attracted to English-language music, and drifted away from Italian prog. Now, almost 40 years later, I'm slowly rediscovering RPI thanks to one of PA's biggest fans of this subgenre (who also happens to be my husbandWink), and I'm not surprised at the number of people who are falling in love with it. There are some real gems to be found in RPI, albums which can very easily be compared to anything coming out of the English-speaking countries.... And, in spite of the difficult times Italy is going through lately, the scene is still alive and well!
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Mandy, I agree RPI is the world you (and we) can live in.
But is it necessary to make another separate thread if we already have this one (by the way, it was you who started it in 2007): http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36487 ?
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I love RPI too!!!!




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Good blog, Mandy!
Bravo for Rock Progressivo Italiano! Clap
 
P.F.M. was my first of all Italian progressive rock artists...naturally? They're one of the most famous Italian progressive rock bands of all, aren't they?
Indeed I was very glad to hear their music, but ONLY ONE Italian band couldn't satisfy me in fact.
After that, my lookin' for lots of Italian bands, was exactly natural action for me. And...the most impressive RPI albums were Palepoli by Osanna and Darwin! by Banco at that time.
 
Italian progressive rock has a mysterious charm. Especially, for Japanese. Maybe...I suggest...it has Oriental flavour.
Long time ago, when I was a PA amateur, I've posted a thread as follows... http://www.progarchives.com/FORUM/forum_posts.asp?TID=53916
 
Recently, to improve and develop my Italian prog world is my duty.
 
Thanks, RPI...and thanks mandy, all Italian team members, and all PA members


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Just like DamoXt7942, my first discovery was PFM and thanks to prog fans and then Internet, I was able to dig up this wonderful world of music which is Italian Progressive Rock.
For me, Italian Progressive Rock is as important as the British movement.  Oh, I forgot to say that I'm French ! (French prog rules too Wink)
I have some obscur favourites like Il Paese dei Balocchi or Odissea.
However, I don't think the recent generations are even close to the magic of the 70s bands.
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Thanks for all the answers that you have posted.
 
I never imagined anything as I thought of receiving fierce criticism in some passages of my post.
 
Frankly I was one of the first man/ girl in PA blindly to believe in the RPI and to defend it. Today I can not give up and, therefore, I will continue to fight so that (with immense utopia) the RPI triumphs!!!
 
English movement & Italian movement are at the same leval. This is immensely true!
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Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

 
                                               I love Italian Prog too Mandy, see Wink :
 
 
                                                                            Ciao Thumbs Up
 
 
 
Great reviews, Erik!!!
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Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

Mandy, I agree RPI is the world you (and we) can live in.
But is it necessary to make another separate thread if we already have this one (by the way, it was you who started it in 2007): http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36487 ?
 
I understand your surprise but, although the two threads appear in the report, they are born with two different purposes.
 
'All Prog From italy' thread was created in order to promote all the RPI and IP. This thread was created because I wanted to explain certain things about my meter trial in reviews in the past been criticized for the very high valuations.
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Thanks Lady In Black .. eh sorry Mandrakeroot LOL My story with Italian progrock started when I discovered the LP's The World Became The World by PFM and Banco V in the late Seventies, I was very pleased with the blend of skills, emotion and the wonderful native language. But my Italian progrock quest was really boosted in the early Nineties when many progrock labels (mainly Japanese and Italian) reissued rare Classic Italian Prog like Museo Rosenbach, Corte Dei Miracoli and Cherry Five, this also stimulated the new Italian progrock bands and nowadays we can enjoy cascades of Italian progrock reviews everyday and lots of threads about Italian progrock but I notice a "tiny slight small Italian progrock overkill", due to a kind of contagious euphoric mental state here on PA  Wink
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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2009 at 02:42
Erik... To you may seem strange but it is also thanks to PA when I re-started (and re-discovered) listening to Franco Battiato, New Trolls, Angelo Branduardi... And also I Pooh (pre 1975, a great band... Not Prog but for Progsters), All bands / artists who already I knew and loved!
 
I, for a kind of coincidence, I discovered that I have always loved the Prog ... And today I am glad to have contributed to the spread of the Italian Prog, not only in PA!
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There's a lot of splendid stuff in italian prog, and had a lot of boring stuff, as in any country of the world, there's too 'more of the same' records in my opinion!

But in the last week I discover Samadhi, such a great record! Big smile
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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2009 at 03:26
Originally posted by ProgShine ProgShine wrote:

There's a lot of splendid stuff in italian prog, and had a lot of boring stuff, as in any country of the world, there's too 'more of the same' records in my opinion!

But in the last week I discover Samadhi, such a great record! Big smile
 
What you said is true. However, I must say that the magic that's present in Italian Prog I have not found in Prog of other countries. And I not say this because I am Italian!
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