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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 07:53
My mom knows this local farmer who raises cage-free organic chickens and I bought 3 of them. So, tonight I'm trying something different. I removed the backbone and butterflied the whole bird and have had it soaking in a brine since last night. Not sure how I'll treat it, but I may just pry up the skin and rub some extra virgin olive oil and some herbs and seasonings under the skin.

What will make this different is I'll take halved yukon gold potaoes, drizzle it with extra virgin olive oil, salt, pepper and rosemary and make sort of a mound on a baking sheet. I'll take the butterflied bird and drape it over the potatoes so as it cooks the chicken will flavor the potatoes. I think I'll roast some veggies, too.

This morning I'm making my daughter's favorite: biscuits and gravy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 08:58
^ I really must have a go at making your biscuits and gravy some day Eric - it sounds... erm, interesting ... and totally different to anything I've ever eaten before.
 
Can I suggest you add some lemon juice and sprigs of thyme to your chicken? I love the combination of lemon and chicken and will often put two lemon halves inside the bird while roasting.
 
If that doesn't appeal, then perhaps serve it with lemon potatoes - slice the spuds in ½" slices, place in a baking dish, dot with butter and the juice of half a lemon and sprinkle with the grated zest. Bake in a hot oven for 15 mins, then remove and drain-off the butter, add the remaining lemon juice and bake for a further half-hour to 40 mins until crispy.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 09:09
I always sprinkle chicken with lemon juice before roasting, and usually never add oil (the skin is fatty enough, in my opinion). Instead of thyme, I use rosemary, fresh or dried - it is the herb that is generally used when roasting meat or poultry in Italy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 09:28
The lemon is a great touch. Thanks, guys.

I love rosemary and chicken. I thought for sure my rosemary plant out on the back deck wouldn't have survived the cold night last night, but that bad boy is standing up and giving the cold midwest air the finger. Tough little buggers.

I do like how a drizzle of olive oil makes the skin extra crisp.

As for the biscuits and gravy, it's pretty easy. It's also VERY rich, which is why I only make it about once every other month. I also had a half a biscuit and gravy as I'm still trying to watch my weight.

I just take a package of my favorite sausage (I like it with sage), crumble and brown it. Remove and add butter (I use about 4 tablespoons) and melt it. Add equal parts flour and stir until you get a roux that's of a peanut butter consistency (won't take long). Get a whisk and slowly add milk until you get it to the consistency you like. Make sure you whisk it often to get out any lumps. Finally, add the crumbled sausage back in and season to taste. Serve over your favorite biscuit. I use store bought because I haven't found a good homemade recipe that doesn't call for shortening, which is loaded with partially hydrogenated oils.

Baking isn't my thing, so if anyone has a good biscuit recipe, please feel free to share. I tried one from the web and they were like hockey pucks. Emily couldn't even eat them.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 09:37
Cheers Eric - the shop bought biscuits will be a problem here in the UK - it's not something that I can get - so a web recipe is my only option. But I'll give it a try Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 10:47
I do have biscuit recipes aplenty, but my books are now on a ship bound for New YorkLOL.... Anyway, being a rather expert baker, I could recommend using baking soda and yogurt (or buttermilk) in the biscuit batter. Such an addition usually makes for a very light texture, as in pancakes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 10:53
Hey Raff, I don't mean to get off subject here, but when are you arriving in the states? I guess you know I moved from SF to Memphis to be with Cindy, it took some adjusting to say the least, ha ha ha.
OK, back to the biscuits.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 11:02
You'll know soon enoughWink... And, from what I've heard of the South of the US, I am quite sure it wasn't exactly a walk in the park for you. As for myself, I am quite adaptable, and my life in Italy is anything but satisfactory anyway (not to mention the sorry state the country is in politics-wise).

Can't wait to cook my first Thanksgiving dinner.... Don't know if I'll make biscuits too, but I'm definitely planning something with a twist. And then there will be the holidays... Last year I cooked up a storm, and I intend to pull out all the stops this year, to celebrate our first Xmas as husband and wife.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 11:56
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I do have biscuit recipes aplenty, but my books are now on a ship bound for New YorkLOL.... Anyway, being a rather expert baker, I could recommend using baking soda and yogurt (or buttermilk) in the biscuit batter. Such an addition usually makes for a very light texture, as in pancakes.
Ah, found a recipe - looks more like a dough based biscuit rather than a batter .. not unlike the Suffolk Rusks recipe I mentioned way back on page 24.  Seems simple enough. (some of the pictures don't look especially appertising, but I'm going to go for it)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 12:07
Got a nice arosta in the oven right now, with small patatoes and a nice green salad (which is not in the oven obviously). Will keep it brief though, as I cut my right index finger typing is a bit difficult.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 12:45
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Hey Raff, I don't mean to get off subject here, but when are you arriving in the states? I guess you know I moved from SF to Memphis to be with Cindy, it took some adjusting to say the least, ha ha ha.
OK, back to the biscuits.


Hmmmm, Memphis. Have you had a chance to get to the Rendezvous for BBQ ribs? Man alive, that could be some of the best BBQ I've ever had. And comin' from a Kansas City boy, that's saying a lot.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 13:54
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:


Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Hey Raff, I don't mean to get off subject here, but when are you arriving in the states? I guess you know I moved from SF to Memphis to be with Cindy, it took some adjusting to say the least, ha ha ha.
OK, back to the biscuits.
Hmmmm, Memphis. Have you had a chance to get to the Rendezvous for BBQ ribs? Man alive, that could be some of the best BBQ I've ever had. And comin' from a Kansas City boy, that's saying a lot.E



Ha ha ha, one of the bigger adjustments I had to make about moving to Memphis from San Francisco is that I'm into health food and I'm mostly vegetarian. I did start eating more fried chicken and catfish since moving here. I love BBQ chicken, but oddly enough I find the BBQ chicken to be much better in CA. Memphians love their pork and that is something I was never too fond of.

The Rendezvous definitley has a rep, but I can't remember if I have been there. I just gave up on the BBQ chicken here. If you like BBQ pork, Memphis is the place, but if you like BBQ beef your talking Texas, another place I used to live in.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 14:15
I'm a pretty devout carnivore, so we went (pardon the pun) hog wild on their ribs when we stayed all night in Memphis a few years ago. Waiter even gave me a complimentary jar of their rub. Now THAT is southern hospitality.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 14:20
Talking of meat and such, I've been collecting recipes for turkey breast dishes for Thanksgiving. There is no way I am going to cook a whole turkey for only two people, because we'd end up eating the leftovers until New Year's DayLOL. Found some great recipes both on the Epicurious and the Food Network websites, and now I'll have to choose which one to make for my first Thanksgiving in the New World. Any suggestions from the experts would be very welcome anyway!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 14:42
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Last year I cooked up a storm,


and I intend to pull out all the stops this year, to celebrate our first Xmas as husband and wife.


that you did Heart  I love the sound of that btw..Heart
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 14:06
Get a room you twoWink!  I am very glad you both have a lot of things to be thankful about this year.
 
I have cooked just the breast before Raf but can't for the life of me find the recipe.  Last year part of the family wanted to deep fry the turkey so I chose to grill a boneless rib eye roast because I don't like fried turkey at all. I just marinated the roast in olive oil fresh rosemary, thyme and little sage. It turned out fantastic.  This year after ignoring another deep fried turkey at Stacy's sisters house on Thursday I will roast a full bird on Friday and not sure what I am going to do with it yet recipe wise. 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 14:11
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Talking of meat and such, I've been collecting recipes for turkey breast dishes for Thanksgiving. There is no way I am going to cook a whole turkey for only two people, because we'd end up eating the leftovers until New Year's DayLOL. Found some great recipes both on the Epicurious and the Food Network websites, and now I'll have to choose which one to make for my first Thanksgiving in the New World. Any suggestions from the experts would be very welcome anyway!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 14:12
Even just a breast?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 14:15
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Even just a breast?


Yes, but obviously you won't need as much brine.  Cook to 165 F (74 C) internal temperature.

Google "Alton Brown brine turkey recipe" and you'll probably find the recipe I use (AB is one my favorite Food Network personalities)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 14:17
Oh, I adore Alton Brown! I remember seeing his features on how to make gumbo, and how hilarious it was every time he burnt a roux!LOL Thanks so much for the tip btw... I'll see what I can find!

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