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Points: 11746 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2008 at 13:53
I was thinking the same thing this morning when my neighbour woke me up for help with his decorations...

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Points: 4338 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2008 at 13:29
I think most tradition holds that Jesus would have born in September.  When Constantine declared Christianity as the state religion of Rome many of the Roman customs were incorporated into Christianity's events to make the move more palatable.  For instance declaring Christ's Birth to be in the general vicinity of the Winter Solstice.
 
As for me I going to see Trans-Siberian Orchestra the weekend before  Thanksgiving and that will be the start to our season.  If Christmas does nothing else it should give us all a heart for charity and giving.  Of course we should be that way all the time.
 
What interferes with that is the size and number of presents we EXPECT.  That is what damages the season.  Gifts are just tokens of our affections and should be given freely with no return expected.
That being said let me be the first in this thread to delcare:
 
I hope everyone has a wonderful Holiday season no matter where you are or what your circumstances
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Oh and in the spirit of the thread I saw Halloween decorations up the day after Labor Day.
 
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Points: 8543 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2008 at 10:57
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Jesus, Christmas is supposed to be a time of good cheer and festivity.  Now, stop your b**ching and enjoy the damn holiday! Angry
 


Hm...You mean to say Jesus is unsatisfied about his own celebration day or what? TongueWink
 
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Originally posted by The Doctor The Doctor wrote:

Jesus, Christmas is supposed to be a time of good cheer and festivity.  Now, stop your b**ching and enjoy the damn holiday! Angry
 


Hm...You mean to say Jesus is unsatisfied about his own celebration day or what? TongueWink
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Jesus, Christmas is supposed to be a time of good cheer and festivity.  Now, stop your b**ching and enjoy the damn holiday! Angry
 
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

http://www.garnertedarmstrong.org/pubs/christmas.htm
good article. When I was a "born-again" Christian we never celebrated Christmas, but would sing carols at any time of the year as long as those carols were not overtly pagan. Later as a non-Christian I became fascinated by folk-lore and ancient pagan traditions, especially of Britain and their relationship to Christian traditions. It is evident that Christmas is piggy-backing on older non-Christian traditions and has little relationship to any biblical event or tradition.
 
The Holly & The Ivy, The First Noel etc are Christianised songs of pagan celebration - even the British tradition of Father Christmas (rather than Saint Nicolas, Chris Kringle or Santa Claus) is based on the pagan Green Man and the celebration of Winter turning to Spring over the Winter Solstice.
 
...So even from a Pagan view-point - celebrations starting as early as October are just as meaningless.
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Has the 2000 election taught you nothing?
 
does it need to teach me anything?  I'm British...Wink
 
besides, we have enough uncounted chavs of our own, thank you very much...LOL
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Oh, and about the Christmas decorations...

In NC, where I spent most of my life, those didn't go up until the day after Thanksgiving.




They stayed up until Easter, though.  Confused
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Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

ehhhh...  the good thing I can say about the world today...  enough bad sh*t  going on around us so stupid stuff like that sort of isn't worth the time to even care about I guess. Put up in the decorations in July for I care.. just vote Tuesday.....
 
If there was any danger Of Barack losing on Tuesday Micky, I'd get you to smuggle me in for voting purposes, Micky...as it is, I think he's got a pretty safe lead...Wink


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Points: 20338 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2008 at 07:46
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I know, It's sh!t isn't it.
 
eloquently put, Professor Porksword....Geek
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

There's Chistmas decorations going up everywhere. They started doing this a few days ago. It's sickening.



I know, It's sh!t isn't it.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

ehhhh...  the good thing I can say about the world today...  enough bad sh*t  going on around us so stupid stuff like that sort of isn't worth the time to even care about I guess. Put up in the decorations in July for I care.. just vote Tuesday.....
 
If there was any danger Of Barack losing on Tuesday Micky, I'd get you to smuggle me in for voting purposes, Micky...as it is, I think he's got a pretty safe lead...Wink
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2008 at 07:34
I tend to agree with you. The Xmas season starts way too early, even this year when people will have far less money (if any at all) to spend on useless presents and truckloads of food. I do like the decorations and the atmosphere, but not in mid-October. Even though I am not religious, I think this is really sickening.
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Points: 1402 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2008 at 07:21
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

There's Chistmas decorations going up everywhere. They started doing this a few days ago. It's sickening.

 
Couldn't agree more. It's far too early. You could always do what I do. When I see first Christmas advert on the TV I don't shop there for the following year. This year - Argos.
 
I doubt very much that Argos will loose much sleep over my lack of custom but it is my reaction to the over commercialisation of this festival.
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http://www.garnertedarmstrong.org/pubs/christmas.htm
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2008 at 06:25
Damn those Christians with their economic and educational systems and their festivities, stealing my autumn :P
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

just vote Tuesday.....

Good call.

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Points: 10063 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2008 at 06:23
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

There's Chistmas decorations going up everywhere. They started doing this a few days ago. It's sickening.


Relax. It won't last long. Well, unless you live here in the Philippines, you'll have to bear with it for 4 months where  Christmas season starts as early as  September.LOL

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One month and a half, plus two contests till Christmas, so I'm not feeling it yet.
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