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An instrumental heavy prog band I stumbled unto recently through their label (Forgotten Empire) is the CT, USA based band The Cargo Cult Revival (which I suggested for inclusion in Heavy prog, hence my mentioning it here).

Great heavy atmosphere with a cello to add to the special sound.

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http://www.purevolume.com/thecargocultrevival
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Cargo+Cult+Revival
http://forgottenempirerecords.bigcartel.com/product/the-cargo-cult-revival-snakecharmer-cd
http://forgottenempirerecords.bigcartel.com/product/the-cargo-cult-revival-debut-ep-limited-edition
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i've a question for experts of this genre:
 
Are Queen in 70's a Heavy Prog Band?
 
I think yes... But... For You?
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^No.

And reasons later. Going to bed soonish.
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Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

An instrumental heavy prog band I stumbled unto recently through their label (Forgotten Empire) is the CT, USA based band The Cargo Cult Revival (which I suggested for inclusion in Heavy prog, hence my mentioning it here).

Great heavy atmosphere with a cello to add to the special sound.

Links:
www.myspace.com/theccr
http://www.purevolume.com/thecargocultrevival
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Cargo+Cult+Revival
http://forgottenempirerecords.bigcartel.com/product/the-cargo-cult-revival-snakecharmer-cd
http://forgottenempirerecords.bigcartel.com/product/the-cargo-cult-revival-debut-ep-limited-edition



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Just listening to the Jeff Loomis solo album 'Zero Order Phase'. One phantastic album!
 
Before I charge ahead and suugest them: Do you agree on adding Nevermore to PA?
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 ^ real decent band, they were not accepted by ProgMetal and I can't say they really fit HevyProg but I'll run it by the guys
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Nevermore is metal anyway.. certainly not suitable for heavy prrog.
They aren't really all that progressive for the most part, but their music shows a clear nod to progressive influences.
Seeing them in prog related would be cool (also considering the fact many prog metal bands cite them as an influence), but wouldn't be surprised if they were rejected for that.
That said, I think This Godless Endeavour was the best metal album to be released in 2005 (yes. even beating prog metal releases IMO).

And Jeff Loomis... a big influence on my playing.
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Seen the reactions to Metallica's addition, I'm afraid further metal additions to prog-related are not likely to happen soon. Unfortunately, it seems there are lots of people around who aren't capable of expressing disagreement without resorting to name-calling or personal attacksCry.
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Unfortunately, it seems there are lots of people around who aren't capable of expressing disagreement without resorting to name-calling or personal attacksCry.
 
which is why we need your wisdom, maturity and steadying influence around here, Raff....Hug
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Today i hear this band:
 
Sweet sl*g
 
Sounds Heavy prog or proto progresive to me
 
Any opinions?




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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Seen the reactions to Metallica's addition, I'm afraid further metal additions to prog-related are not likely to happen soon. Unfortunately, it seems there are lots of people around who aren't capable of expressing disagreement without resorting to name-calling or personal attacksCry.
 
And... This is... Well... An extreme big problem of modern society CryCryCryCryCry!
 
Personally, I had many doubts about the presence of Metallica in PA. But I must say that Metallica are not so distant from some Prog Metal... We can stay in PA... Metallica are not so out of place... Of course, in Prog Related!
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Hi there!
I would like to focus the attention on two bands: TOOL and DRAGONFORCE.
The first is a wonderful example of post metal-prog, dark and blue enough to make people think about different sounds and the beauty of them. Listen to them many and many times as they are quite tough  and not easy at all. And after that try to get them out of your mind if you can!
The second is a perfect reprentative of power metal with a noteworthy harmonic part, despite thousands beats per minute, and epic lyrics which can easily been included in a prog rock contest. Listen to them as well and you will see.
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everyone has forgot to mention czar. the first 2 tunes on that album are heavy and catchy as sh*t. the rest can be thrown out.
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Points: 15745 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 18:54
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:



Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:


I consider the following Heavy Prog/Heavy Prog-Related: -Whitesnake: Ready An' Willing


Others...


Uhm... I have 'Saints And Sinner', 'Live... In The Heart Of The City' (remaster with 'Live At Hammersmith') , the VHS recorded in 1983 at 'Monsters Of Rock' and 'Lovehunter'... Really you say that 'Ready An' Willing' is a Heavy Prog Related album?



<div id="result_" dir="ltr">Well... I have to look 'Ready An' Willing'!!!
OK, guys, I love those Whitesnake albums, but I think that calling them even Prog-Related is a stretch. Though they're great records in the great British hard-blues tradition, their level of progressiveness is next to nil, in my humble opinion.Edit: sorry, I didn't see the previous replies, which said more or less what I just wroteEmbarrassed...Anyway, I don't think it will come as a surprise to anyone that I am a big Deep Purple fan, and that I believe their relation to Prog is much stronger than 'just' Proto-Prog. I wonder how it can be that Uriah Heep are considered Heavy Prog, but DP are not... However, I have no intention of beating a dead horse here, since I am not even a Collab any longer.


Yeah, Deep Purple can really be considered Heavy Prog. Fireball, Machine Head, Burn, Come Taste the Band(Heavy Funk Prog, lol).
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Pablo, moving DP to Heavy Prog would result in a lot of unrest here on the forums. When I suggested the move last year, I was told that I wanted to 'rewrite history' (perish the thought!), and at present I can't take any hassle. However, yesterday was listening to the Lucifer's Friend samples available on this site, and couldn't help wondering why they are listed as HP, and DP are not. They certainly didn't sound that different. Oh, well, I suppose that's life for youSmile.... Sometimes you have to accept that certain things just aren't going to happen.
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Pablo, moving DP to Heavy Prog would result in a lot of unrest here on the forums. When I suggested the move last year, I was told that I wanted to 'rewrite history' (perish the thought!), and at present I can't take any hassle. However, yesterday was listening to the Lucifer's Friend samples available on this site, and couldn't help wondering why they are listed as HP, and DP are not. They certainly didn't sound that different. Oh, well, I suppose that's life for youSmile.... Sometimes you have to accept that certain things just aren't going to happen.
 
I have  
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Lucifer’s Friend
 
But... Well... This album is a photocopy of DP style! I agree with you  Raff! Or we consider DP Heavy Prog or is it better to consider DP only a Heavy Rock / Hard Rock band!
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Points: 65268 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2008 at 03:24
 ^ this band was added well before Heavy Prog existed - when it was part of ArtRock - and there is no guarantee Lucifer's Friend would have been added now
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Points: 24429 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2008 at 03:37
That is true, and the same, I suppose, is true for the likes of Babe Ruth. I hope you understand that I don't want to stir anything up here, just to respond to people who share my opinion. We have had enough proof that some members can't behave civilly when faced by something unexpected, and the last thing I need now is to deal with a PA uprisingWink.

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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

That is true, and the same, I suppose, is true for the likes of Babe Ruth. I hope you understand that I don't want to stir anything up here, just to respond to people who share my opinion. We have had enough proof that some members can't behave civilly when faced by something unexpected, and the last thing I need now is to deal with a PA uprisingWink.
 
This is true... This is the problem... CryWink!!!
 
Because you see... More I listening to Led Zep... More I realize that they are excellent in Heavy Prog ShockedEmbarrassedShocked... But even this is only my observation Embarrassed... Only one of my precise ideas about Heavy Prog genre ShockedEmbarrassed... What I say here and I want to clarify Wink... Without other intents!
 


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