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Points: 8581 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2008 at 18:46
Originally posted by Vi0LaToR Vi0LaToR wrote:

maybe the problem is that Rush is a canadian band, and the best music is from UK without doubt, you will NEVER can compare any band from any country with a UK band.
example: King crimson? Genesis? Jethro tull? Pink Floyd? Yes? these are true bands Clap







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Points: 35836 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2008 at 18:58
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Vi0LaToR Vi0LaToR wrote:

and the best music is from UK without doubt, you will NEVER can compare any band from any country with a UK band.


I can ignore the Rush bashing, but this statement is ludicrous.


Hang on, let my defend what the poster is saying. Erm ... this is going to take some hard thinking. Uhm ... ahhh... hmm.  No... hey!  Nah ... maybe...  No, that's not it.  Well at least I tried. ;)
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:


Originally posted by Vi0LaToR Vi0LaToR wrote:

and the best music is from UK without doubt, you will NEVER can compare any band from any country with a UK band.
I can ignore the Rush bashing, but this statement is ludicrous.
Hang on, let my defend what the poster is saying. Erm ... this is going to take some hard thinking. Uhm ... ahhh... hmm. No... hey! Nah ... maybe... No, that's not it. Well at least I tried. ;)


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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

I've probably said this before in some other thread.  In the late-70's/early-80's, Rush was routinely played on the local hard rock station, right along with AC/DC, Judas Priest, and others of similar persuasion.  They were certainly not considered a prog band, because that station was absolutely averse to prog! 
 


Well I was 16 in 1977 and they certainly were known as and written of as a Prog band then. The problem was that Prog had just about had its day just as Rush were breaking and a little like PT's aversion to be pigeon-holed as Prog, Rush's management tried to avoid that trap themselves and so made sure that the hard rock element was the one that was marketed.

My biggest problem with what gets posted on ProgArchives is the constant revisionism and opinion that is expressed as fact.

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Points: 1038 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2008 at 19:21
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Originally posted by Vi0LaToR Vi0LaToR wrote:

maybe the problem is that Rush is a canadian band, and the best music is from UK without doubt, you will NEVER can compare any band from any country with a UK band.
example: King crimson? Genesis? Jethro tull? Pink Floyd? Yes? these are true bands Clap


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Points: 3449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2008 at 19:32
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

I've probably said this before in some other thread.  In the late-70's/early-80's, Rush was routinely played on the local hard rock station, right along with AC/DC, Judas Priest, and others of similar persuasion.  They were certainly not considered a prog band, because that station was absolutely averse to prog! 
 


Well I was 16 in 1977 and they certainly were known as and written of as a Prog band then. The problem was that Prog had just about had its day just as Rush were breaking and a little like PT's aversion to be pigeon-holed as Prog, Rush's management tried to avoid that trap themselves and so made sure that the hard rock element was the one that was marketed.

My biggest problem with what gets posted on ProgArchives is the constant revisionism and opinion that is expressed as fact.

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I'll buy that.  Let me revise the statement to say that according to FM rock programmers, at least in this city, they were not considered prog. 
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Vi0LaToR Vi0LaToR wrote:

and the best music is from UK without doubt, you will NEVER can compare any band from any country with a UK band.


I can ignore the Rush bashing, but this statement is ludicrous.


I wonder what Micky will say when he reads thisWinkLOL... Where are the RPI fans when one needs them?
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Points: 7910 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2008 at 05:16
Originally posted by Vi0LaToR Vi0LaToR wrote:

maybe the problem is that Rush is a canadian band, and the best music is from UK without doubt, you will NEVER can compare any band from any country with a UK band.
example: King crimson? Genesis? Jethro tull? Pink Floyd? Yes? these are true bands Clap


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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2008 at 05:41
Regulars around here know that I'm not a particularly big fan of the band.
I don't think they are overrated.
They clearly made a big contribution to prog overall.
I tend tot think it may be because the fanboys are only too willing to show their love for the band (no offense intended to Alex, Pat etcEmbarrassed) and if it disappeared (the excessive fanboyism) you would probably find they are held in equal regard to many of the big prog bands of our time.
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Originally posted by Vi0LaToR Vi0LaToR wrote:

maybe the problem is that Rush is a canadian band, and the best music is from UK without doubt, you will NEVER can compare any band from any country with a UK band.
example: King crimson? Genesis? Jethro tull? Pink Floyd? Yes? these are true bands Clap


I sincerely hope you are joking.
I really really goddamn do.

At least Hawkwise can make me laugh with a ridiculous post, but this one didn't even do that.

Anyone that tells themselves and somehow makes themselves believe music is better purely based on it's country of origin really must get their head checked.

Worst post in this thread so farThumbs Down
Let's hope no post in this hread drops any lower than this.

And apologies for listening to American prog or Canadian or whatever..... those impure, rotten bandsWink


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I wonder how much energy we expend discussing whether this band or that band is overrated.  Whether it is Rush or Pink Floyd or whatever the flavor of the month is.

I love Rush.  I think their music, both old and new, is fantastic.  I consider them to be one of the best.  Does that make them overrated?  Because many others feel the same, does that make them overrated?

Those of us who think the band is great can still keep open minds about their role in the whole prog scene and their contributions to music.  Whether you like them or not, whether you think Neil is the greatest drummer or not, whether Geddy's balls are being smashed in a vice - it doesn't really matter.  Those with open minds will recognize that they have done great things.

And to say that the best music only comes from the UK is ludicrous.  I happen to believe some of the greatest bands are from the UK but that hardly means that other countries can not produce bands that are the equal or better.  Very silly and absurd post.

Now back to Guru Guru - Dance of the Flames.  See - a Rush fanboy listening to krautrock.


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Points: 20030 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2008 at 07:51
Originally posted by Vi0LaToR Vi0LaToR wrote:

maybe the problem is that Rush is a canadian band, and the best music is from UK without doubt, you will NEVER can compare any band from any country with a UK band.
example: King crimson? Genesis? Jethro tull? Pink Floyd? Yes? these are true bands Clap
So let me so, you're saying that we can never compare Harmonium, Rush, Bacamarte, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Focus, PFM or Anglagard (to pick a few non-UK bands from the PA Top 100) with a UK band?
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Points: 8543 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2008 at 08:14
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Vi0LaToR Vi0LaToR wrote:

maybe the problem is that Rush is a canadian band, and the best music is from UK without doubt, you will NEVER can compare any band from any country with a UK band.
example: King crimson? Genesis? Jethro tull? Pink Floyd? Yes? these are true bands Clap
So let me so, you're saying that we can never compare Harmonium, Rush, Bacamarte, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Focus, PFM or Anglagard (to pick a few non-UK bands from the PA Top 100) with a UK band?
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Nope.  You can't.  And let me take it one further.  Only bands that started at Charterhouse are true bands.  WinkTongue
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Points: 8581 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2008 at 10:55
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Vi0LaToR Vi0LaToR wrote:

and the best music is from UK without doubt, you will NEVER can compare any band from any country with a UK band.


I can ignore the Rush bashing, but this statement is ludicrous.


I wonder what Micky will say when he reads thisWinkLOL... Where are the RPI fans when one needs them?


I suppose I should have been a little more constructive and directed him toward some of the great Italian and Japanese bands that I love. But sometimes even the most passive and peaceful person can become reactionary.  Sometimes I grow weary of trying to persuade the polarized. 

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Never liked the band, but I would never say overrated
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Sounds like somebody needs to show this guy to the Suede Room.
 
 
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2008 at 16:59
Oasis, now there's a band that's both UK and fairly incomparable.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Sounds like somebody needs to show this guy to the Suede Room.
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Points: 7028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2008 at 03:34
Actually Rush are one of the most underrated bands IMO!! there are few bands that evolved in their latter years without selling out radically to more commercial sounds. The more I have heard of 90's Rush+++ the more impressive they sounded, compared to even a band like Genesis & also their earlier work up to Power Windows is vintage material.
 
Overrated- No
Understated - Yes


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