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Mandrakeroot View Drop Down

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Posted: October 20 2008 at 05:40

i've a question for experts of this genre:

Are Queen in 70's a Heavy Prog Band?

I think yes... But... For You?

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Posted: October 19 2008 at 10:30

An instrumental heavy prog band I stumbled unto recently through their label (Forgotten Empire) is the CT, USA based band The Cargo Cult Revival (which I suggested for inclusion in Heavy prog, hence my mentioning it here).

Great heavy atmosphere with a cello to add to the special sound.

Links:
www.myspace.com/theccr
http://www.purevolume.com/thecargocultrevival
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Cargo+Cult+Revival
http://forgottenempirerecords.bigcartel.com/product/the-cargo-cult-revival-snakecharmer-cd
http://forgottenempirerecords.bigcartel.com/product/the-cargo-cult-revival-debut-ep-limited-edition

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Posted: October 19 2008 at 06:49

Nice to see this thread

Excellent genre indeed.

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Posted: October 18 2008 at 12:17

Ghost Rider wrote:

Well, as I was one of the original members of the HP team, I've added a number of new, exciting bands in this subgenre

which is why you're such an asset Raff...

and can teach some of us HP n00bs a thing or two...

Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson

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Posted: October 18 2008 at 11:06

Well, as I was one of the original members of the HP team, I've added a number of new, exciting bands in this subgenre - none of them clones of the better-known Seventies bands, let alone having anything in common with Whitesnake LOL

. We also added a few forgotten bands from the original prog era, like Finnish act Elonkorjuu, female-fronted Fusion Orchestra, and Scottish band Bodkin. For all Hammond organ fans, the Australian band Cosmic Nomads is a must!

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Posted: October 18 2008 at 10:52

Rocktopus wrote:

Climax. Excellent, Bolivian heavyprog added in the archives today.

Stream the full album Gusano Mecanico from 1974. You won't regret it. One on the genres best imo.

A very fine case in point, Rocktopus...thank you for your timely post...

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Posted: October 18 2008 at 10:50

I think Mandrakeroot's intentions in starting this thread were admirable...

sandwiched in between Metal and mainstream Prog Rock, I think its a genre which sometimes fights for recognition, and could certainly do with the oxygen of publicity...

and yet, when a thread is started, we quickly turn our attentions to debates on the levels of progressiveness in Whitesnake's discography... now, c'mon folks, firstly Whitesnake are not, in any stretch of the imagination progressive, neither do they need any further recommendations...

I personally think that a far better use of this thread would be to try out some of the lesser known Heavy Prog bands, which are being added to PA's catalogue, appreciate their music, and make recommendations to each other...that way, we will be helping music at its grass roots.

Earlier on in this thread, I included a link to Every Other Fate. Why? because David will be adding the band this week, I have written the Bio up, and Uwe is presently reviewing their first 2 albums. Believe me, they are a very interesting and rewarding listen.

Now, if you would like to use this thread to highlight lesser known HP bands in a positive way, then you can count on my contribution...

If you want to count the ringlets in David Coverdale's 80's perm however...then I'm outta here...

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Posted: October 18 2008 at 10:46

Climax. Excellent, Bolivian heavyprog added in the archives today.

Stream the full album Gusano Mecanico from 1974. You won't regret it. One on the genres best imo.

Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me

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Posted: October 18 2008 at 10:33

Mandrakeroot wrote:

cacho wrote:

I consider the following Heavy Prog/Heavy Prog-Related

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-Whitesnake:
Ready An' Willing

Others...

Uhm... I have 'Saints And Sinner', 'Live... In The Heart Of The City' (remaster with 'Live At Hammersmith') , the VHS recorded in 1983 at 'Monsters Of Rock' and 'Lovehunter'... Really you say that 'Ready An' Willing' is a Heavy Prog Related album?

Well... I have to look 'Ready An' Willing'!!!

OK, guys, I love those Whitesnake albums, but I think that calling them even Prog-Related is a stretch. Though they're great records in the great British hard-blues tradition, their level of progressiveness is next to nil, in my humble opinion.

Edit: sorry, I didn't see the previous replies, which said more or less what I just wrote Embarrassed

...

Anyway, I don't think it will come as a surprise to anyone that I am a big Deep Purple fan, and that I believe their relation to Prog is much stronger than 'just' Proto-Prog. I wonder how it can be that Uriah Heep are considered Heavy Prog, but DP are not... However, I have no intention of beating a dead horse here, since I am not even a Collab any longer.

Edited by Ghost Rider - October 18 2008 at 10:38

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Posted: October 18 2008 at 10:13

Some of my favorites in this genre are: Hairy Chapter, Armaggedon, Gomorrha and Virus

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Posted: October 17 2008 at 19:36

Nightfly wrote:

Mandrakeroot wrote:

cacho wrote:

I consider the following Heavy Prog/Heavy Prog-Related

: -Whitesnake: Ready An' Willing

Others...

<DIV id=result_ dir=ltr>Well... I have to look 'Ready An' Willing'!!!

Ready An' Willing is a great album but I don't hear any Prog.

Let's have a big hand for Anekdoten

Shut it down!

Saying that some albums or bands are Prog make some people buy them, then when they realise they're not, they won't throw them, and will start to appreciate it!

Yeah I know, though Ain't Gonna Cry No More is the nearest thing, I suppose, oh and She's A Woman! Great disc, but no Prog, I admit

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Posted: October 17 2008 at 12:51

Nightfly wrote:

Mandrakeroot wrote:

cacho wrote:

I consider the following Heavy Prog/Heavy Prog-Related

:

-Whitesnake:
Ready An' Willing

Others...

Well... I have to look 'Ready An' Willing'!!!

Ready An' Willing is a great album but I don't hear any Prog.

Let's have a big hand for Anekdoten

Thanks for the clarification, although I must say that I totally agree with you, Nightfly!

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Posted: October 17 2008 at 12:31

Mandrakeroot wrote:

cacho wrote:

I consider the following Heavy Prog/Heavy Prog-Related

:

-Whitesnake:
Ready An' Willing

Others...

Well... I have to look 'Ready An' Willing'!!!

Ready An' Willing is a great album but I don't hear any Prog.

Let's have a big hand for Anekdoten

Edited by Nightfly - October 17 2008 at 12:34

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Posted: October 17 2008 at 09:13

cacho wrote:

I consider the following Heavy Prog/Heavy Prog-Related

:

-Whitesnake:
Ready An' Willing

Others...

Well... I have to look 'Ready An' Willing'!!!

Edited by Mandrakeroot - October 17 2008 at 09:14

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Posted: October 16 2008 at 18:59

Excellent sub-genre!! Deep Purple being my fave band of all-time, it made me include a lot of bands, especially the ones with Hammond Organ as lead, Atomic Rooster, Black Widow, Uriah Heep, these are the main bands that I liked thanks to DP and of course the Hard Rock genre.

I consider the following Heavy Prog/Heavy Prog-Related

:
-Deep Purple:
Fireball
Machine Head
Burn
Come Taste the Band
-Led Zeppelin:
IV
Houses of the Holy
Presence
II
I
-Budgie:
Never Turn Your Back on your Friend
Squawk
-Rush(the ones I own):
Caress of Steel
2112
Farewell to Kings
-Black Sabbath:
Black Sabbath
Paranoid
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
Sabotage
-Rainbow:
Rising
-Whitesnake:
Ready An' Willing
-Atomic Rooster:
Death Walks Behind You
-Black Widow:
Sacrifice
-Jethro Tull(Heavy Folk Prog):
Aqualung
Minstrel in the Gallery

Others...

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Posted: October 16 2008 at 18:45

I would like to suggest you check out another band which David and Whizzle have been instrumental in adding to the archives, during the past week, and is certainly worth checking out, for its Indian influences:

Motherjane: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4015

a further band, which will be added to HP within the next week to Uwe's obvious delight...

Every Other Fate: www.myspace.com/everyotherfate

both bands will be excellent additions to our genre stable...

and many thanks to Mandrakeroot for dedicating a thread to HP, and giving us a medium for raising the profile of these bands....

Edited by fandango - October 16 2008 at 18:59

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Posted: October 16 2008 at 15:42

For the classics, I really like High Tide, Birth Control, and Gravy Train, and was very impressed with Automatic Fine Tuning.

In modern Heavy Prog, I do like Solution Science Systems and Thule, but thanks to John's (sinakdotentree) recommendation in a recent poll by Rushfan4 (Scott) -- and thanks to Scott for providing myspace links for his poll -- this may be my favourite in Heavy Prog that I've become familiar with (I don't have the album, but from myspace, I think it's brilliant). Here is Maxwell Demon's myspace

2001
Prometheus
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Posted: October 16 2008 at 14:53

there are many wonderful vintage Heavy Prog bands;

Fusion Orchestra
Arc
High Tide
Automatic Fine Tuning
Badger
Elonkorjuu
Freedom's Children

and many excellent newer groups as;
Yang
Zundapp
Asteroid
Kingfisher Sky
Australis
Solution Science Systems

also check this thread -- http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=49981&PN=1

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Posted: October 16 2008 at 14:33

My fav band of the genre must be Uriah Heep...
I love almost all their 70's records and I am captivated by the sound of the hammond...

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Posted: October 16 2008 at 13:06

King By-Tor wrote:

An excellent Sub genre indeed! Many of my favorite bands live there.

Although I am also perplexed as to the "Heavy Prog" syndrome of having only one good album and then the rest being flops. Damn you Captain Beyond, Babe Ruth and many others, I'm sure!

You watch... I believe this is true only in part ... Not true for everyone. But this is true. I also remain puzzled!

Another aspect that I must stress is related to Uriah Heep. There are those who see them only as Prog band... This is true for 70's. But in 80's Heep are Hard/ AOR and today... Heep are only a great Classic Metal band. Heep today are loved from Metallers and bikers... But if we present them as Prog band... So many remain perplexed. The same goes with Rush, Atomic Rooster and... Hawkwind (which I consider Psychedelic Heavy Prog!).