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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:35
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Whilst Kultivator would be an even better purchase.  Why?

Because you get that National Health, Soft Heap, Hatfield and the North, In Cahoots sound but with the added bonus of a Zeuhl feel as well.

The best of both worlds!

And their only album Barndomens Stigar has been recently remastered and is available from Wayside Music (albeit on the pricey side).

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As much as I am looking forward to Kultivator, everyone needs NH in their collection, and especially Melissa.


Yes I know but I have Complete already. Wink


That's what I recommend for Melissa.

Also, your inbox is full.  Embarrassed
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:35
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Yes I know but I have Complete already. Wink

Uh, is your name Melissa...? Confused LOL


Only at weekends. Wink
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:


Also, your inbox is full.  Embarrassed

Yes, it is!  Again Pat and I are inextricably linked across space/time.  We both try to send James a PM at the same time... Wacko LOL
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:


Also, your inbox is full.  Embarrassed

Yes, it is!  Again Pat and I are inextricably linked across space/time.  We both try to send James a PM at the same time... Wacko LOL


We might be the subject of a new quantum entanglement experiment LOL
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2008 at 10:52
I only have one space free... Patrick is likely to get in first... I'll try and make another space free, one moment!
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As Pat spotted via another thread, I gave National Health (s/t) a listen.  Only heard it a couple of times so far (was listening earlier at work on my ipod.  A colleague asked me what I was listening to.  "Oh, it's National Health."  Cue blank look.  "Canterbury scene music!"  Cue blanker look.  "From the 1970s..."  Cue 'You're weird' look... oh well!!).  I like it but it's hard to say more than that so far, it's that kind of 'twiddly', pointillistic music that takes a while to resolve itself into its constituent parts in your mind's ear...  I love the vocals, though. Smile

(The young squires of PA have found me on Last.fm and keep telling me to hear Soft Machine.  All in good time, boys... Tongue)


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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

As Pat spotted via another thread, I gave National Health (s/t) a listen.  Only heard it a couple of times so far (was listening earlier at work on my ipod.  A colleague asked me what I was listening to.  "Oh, it's National Health."  Cue blank look.  "Canterbury scene music!"  Cue blanker look.  "From the 1970s..."  Cue 'You're weird' look... oh well!!).  I like it but it's hard to say more than that so far, it's that kind of 'twiddly', pointillistic music that takes a while to resolve itself into its constituent parts in your mind's ear...  I love the vocals, though. Smile

(The young squires of PA have found me on Last.fm and keep telling me to hear Soft Machine.  All in good time, boys... Tongue)


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Unfortunately, you'll not find her on Of Queues and Cures, that album only features the suave stylings of John Greaves and a treatise on numinosity from Peter Blegvad.

But both albums are essential!  Hope you grow to love them as much as I do.  Embarrassed
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2008 at 14:01
She has to love The Collapso and The Bryden 2-step (for Amphibians). Big%20smile

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Is  theStomu Yashmash'Ta Group with Hugh Hopper playing bases by default, Canterbury - or just good Anglo-Japanese jazz fusion (pre-empting Kazumi Watanable playing with Bill Bruford etalsome 20 years later)??? Freedom Is Frightening and Raindog, at last, hit the stands as CD issues next month.
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Hi guys, I need your help. Im writing a paper about The Hatfield And The North. What I need to know is, why the guys named their album from 1975, "The Rotter's Club". I know that Jonathan Coe named his novel from 2001 The Rotter's Club as well because he was a huge fan of the band, but I just need to know why The Hatfield And The North gave the album this title. Thank you very much in advance!
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I have a slight feeling the name The Rotter's Club was lifted by H&TN, but having trouble trying to place exactly where. P.G.Wodehouse? The Billy Bunter /Greyfriars stories - Bunter always called his antagonists 'Rotters'? Those Jonas & Co upper middle class (often anti-semetic) detective stories of the 30's?
 
When H&TN issued that album, the title wasn't  a real surprise, so it might have been bandied around on TV or the media at that time. A number of Canterbury bands picked up quirky titles based on what would heard around the period, e.g. Soft's Stanley Stamp's Gibbon Catalogue (a pun created by Billy Oddie for I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again*)  - you can heard  it used on the first side of the first BBC cassette series of that radio show ,about 25 minutes in. Soft 's Soft Weed Factor is a corruption of the title of a bodice-ripping book & best seller of the early 60's The Sot Weed Factor (a story of the early days of Maryland's tobacco trade - I think).
 
* Graham Bennet's excellent Out-Bloody-Rageous, states 'TV series' - Graham didn't read my notes carefully enough - I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again  was a long running radio series and one of the main precursors to Monty Python.
 
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

I have a slight feeling the name The Rotter's Club was lifted by H&TN, but having trouble trying to place exactly where. P.G.Wodehouse? The Billy Bunter /Greyfriars stories - Bunter always called his antagonists 'Rotters'? Those Jonas & Co upper middle class (often anti-semetic) detective stories of the 30's?
 
 
Gaah!! I know this!! Can't blCensoreddy remember Embarrassed.... I'm sure it's on the sleeve notes of one the re-issued seedies - I can't tell until I get home this evening.
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Points: 117 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2008 at 07:33
Thanks for the help Dick! Dean, if you have the time, it would help me a lot if you looked at your vinyl some day. Id very much like to know what it says about the title in the sleeves. Thanks in advance! :)
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2008 at 07:36
I have the two remastered albums... I'll take a look in a while and see if it says anything.  Plus I have Hatwise Choice (signed by Richard Sinclair and Phil Miller Wink).

One of those may say something.


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Awesome thanks.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

I have a slight feeling the name The Rotter's Club was lifted by H&TN, but having trouble trying to place exactly where. P.G.Wodehouse? The Billy Bunter /Greyfriars stories - Bunter always called his antagonists 'Rotters'? Those Jonas & Co upper middle class (often anti-semetic) detective stories of the 30's?
 
 
Gaah!! I know this!! Can't blCensoreddy remember Embarrassed.... I'm sure it's on the sleeve notes of one the re-issued seedies - I can't tell until I get home this evening.
Sorry - I was wrong - I know I read it somewhere quite recently. There was a 1968 episode of the Avengers called The Rotters, but I don't think that's it...
 
Incidentally, can anyone remember the Melody Maker/NME/Sounds adverts for Rotters Club from 75? - I remember reading it out loud at a girlfriends house and getting a swift kick in the shins as the language got to rude for her parents Embarrassed
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Points: 12818 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 26 2008 at 12:48
Of some relevance, I would like to praise the recently issued and ridiculously cheap Spirit of Joy 3cd boxset compilation: Spirit%20Of%20Joy%20-%20Tales%20From%20The%20Polydor%20Underground%201967%20-%201974
 
Some early Caravan can be found as well as the A side of Soft Machine's first single. But at last I can understand why people want to lump Supersister as a Canterbury band - the two later albums I have of their's and for some time, don't  - although the second song sampled on Spirit from the band ain't Canterbury to my ear. I note Jazzwise review all the Supersister CD reissues this month's edition (out through Eclectic Records) and the reviewer is at pains to mention the Mike Ratledge influence.
 
IMHO Spirit of Joy has a good balance music with a little emphasis on the jazz-oriented, so McLaughlin Jack Bruce, Lifetime, etc. amongst early Van Der Graaf, psyschedelia etc. and few familiar suspects.
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Hello all. This is mostly for Patrick's benefit, but still... yes. Hello all.

Just swinging by to say that I acquired National Health's 'Of Queues and Cures' the other day - just had a first listen on the way to work and...

...I LOVE it!

It goes so well with a crisp English Autumn morning...
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2008 at 04:59
Melissa,

I am a National Health listener as well, you know. Wink  Their third album isn't quite of interest though.

By the way, the new Henry Cow Vol. 6 Stockholm & Goteborg album is great!
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yes Of Queues is one of the greatest ever   ..the third one is good, it just doesn't quite have the soul of the first two and is more of an Alan Gowen homage ..the one I'm not too keen on is Playtime
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