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Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

well, its finally stopped raining over here...I'm thinking of setting a dove free out of the window, to see whether it will come back with an olive leaf in its beak...Unhappy

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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

well, its finally stopped raining over here...I'm thinking of setting a dove free out of the window, to see whether it will come back with an olive leaf in its beak...Unhappy

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Bloody global warming


 
now if James is being entiely consistant in his pedantry, he'll also pick you up on this phrase and tell you its called 'Climate Change'...if he doesn't, I'll report him to the Admin team for inconsistancy in his umpiring decisions...Wink
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Cool new shed.............. will be heading back west this eveing do we need the chitty chitty bang bang-esque boat adapter on the car to get home?  Or shall I just sit in the trailer with a pair of oars?
 
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The water's still rising. If only there were a wooden structure of some kind that we could dismantle and make into a raft...
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

 
don't worry folks, here's a backup shed in case of a "worst scenario flood situation",  as they say in Reading...Wink
 
 
Did anyone hear the news report on Radio 1 this morning? - interviewing a woman in Wales whose house was flooded: "Woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden"...
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

[QUOTE=mystic fred] 
Did anyone hear the news report on Radio 1 this morning? - interviewing a woman in Wales whose house was flooded: "Woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden"...
 
Which would be a great opening line for a blues song:
 
"Woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden
I said I woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden
My lawnmower and garden tools have suffered severe water damage
But for the foreseeable future I won't be doing no work...
In the garden"
 
'Lawnmower Flood Damage Lapsed Insurance Policy Blues', John Lee Hooker, from the album 'Met Office Severe Weather Warning Blues'
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

It's just a question of volume James, you get more in a mug.
 
My mug goes to 11 Big%20smile
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Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

  

Originally posted by prog-chick prog-chick wrote:

You boys are nowt but worry


Which is why we need you & Vicky around here - to instill a sense of decorum, sanity & stability
ErmmHmmm... not so sure about that -- but the dishes need doing, the lounge pillows need fluffing, the rug hoovering, the lunch cooking....Wink
 
Q: How does a man open a beer?
 
A: He doesn't -- it should be open when his wife brings it to him! Stern%20Smile
 
 
 
Ha! You gals can't swat me way over here!Tongue
 
 
Wink Just kidding, me lovelies -- we guys actually don't want you near the beer...
 
 
 
 
I'll go to work now, shall I? Pinch
 
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

[QUOTE=mystic fred] 
Did anyone hear the news report on Radio 1 this morning? - interviewing a woman in Wales whose house was flooded: "Woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden"...
 
Which would be a great opening line for a blues song:
 
"Woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden
I said I woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden
My lawnmower and garden tools have suffered severe water damage
But for the foreseeable future I won't be doing no work...
In the garden"
 
'Lawnmower Flood Damage Lapsed Insurance Policy Blues', John Lee Hooker, from the album 'Met Office Severe Weather Warning Blues'
 
second verse...
 
"Woke up this morning to see the Ducks floating around the garden
I said I woke up this morning to see the Ducks floating around the garden...
they say this is the best weather thay ever had,
they say their pond is the biggest they ever had....
and the Frogs agree"
 
Wink
 
and another verse..
 
I got the shed-u-like-homebase downpayment blues ,
yeah I got the shed-u-like-homebase downpayment blues,
my baby's floatin' down the garden,
so what more have i got to lose..?
maybe my fence.
 
 
 


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Well I woke up this mornin', woke up yesterday too
I say I woke up this mornin, I woke up yesterday too,
If I wakes up tomorrow
That'll be three days in a row

'Student Blues' - Blind Undergratuate Tim (1924)

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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 08 2008 at 03:33
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

 don't worry folks, here's a backup shed in case of a "worst scenario flood situation",  as they say in Reading...


All very well Steve, but we'd have to get rid of that youngster on the right

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Incidentally - I owe you a debt of thanks Steve - a couple of pages ago, when we were talking about money saving measures, you suggested the simple method of keeping within the speed limit to conserve fuel...

We went down to my mother's this weekend in Sussex (about 130 miles), ran her into Worthing & back on Saturday, then another 130 miles back yesterday; Kept to the speed limit all the way there & back and although we had a virtually empty road on the way home yesterday, we were stopping & starting all the way down on Friday in torrential rain & high winds (with frequent use of a/c to demist the car)...

So - approx 280 miles in all, on just under half a tank of petrol, say 5 gallons... so a Ford C-Max 1.8 (petrol) - approx 56 miles to the gallon.

Steve - thank you for the suggestion

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http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51594 Wink
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Aha! So Blind Undergraduate Tim could be a nom de blues for Tim Brooke-Taylor   

I always thought the original was Mike Harding, myself

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:


Incidentally - I owe you a debt of thanks Steve - a couple of pages ago, when we were talking about money saving measures, you suggested the simple method of keeping within the speed limit to conserve fuel...

We went down to my mother's this weekend in Sussex (about 130 miles), ran her into Worthing & back on Saturday, then another 130 miles back yesterday; Kept to the speed limit all the way there & back and although we had a virtually empty road on the way home yesterday, we were stopping & starting all the way down on Friday in torrential rain & high winds (with frequent use of a/c to demist the car)...

So - approx 280 miles in all, on just under half a tank of petrol, say 5 gallons... so a Ford C-Max 1.8 (petrol) - approx 56 miles to the gallon.

Steve - thank you for the suggestion
 
It's a bit of a no brainer really but often the obvious things are those that pass us by.  Once a car is moving the fuel required to keep it moving at constant speed is pretty much affected only by the wind resistance (if you go up a hill you go down again later, getting that energy back).  The wind resistance is related to the speed of the car (by a complex equation but it rises faster than the speed hence most sports cars, regardless of power, running out of go in the mid to upper hundreds of mph) so the higher the speed the more energy required to keep at that speed; therefore more fuel needed to go faster.  (The same applies to the tyres, gearbox and engine but wind resistance is the killer).
 
When I used to go to Uni at Newcastle i could always get there from Oxfordshire on a full tank of fuel, but due to the prevailing wind usually being from the South West in our country I could never get back without stopping to fill up about 40 miles from home.  That's quite a difference in a 265 mile journey.Smile
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^^^you're welcome, Jim! you know it makes sense Wink
 
also correct tyre pressures, windows closed, weather etc. makes a difference as Dean said - the appliance of science!Big%20smile
 
 


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One thing I did find is it's bloody difficult keeping a modern car within the speed limit on an empty motorway - they just don't want to keep the speed down!

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

One thing I did find is it's bloody difficult keeping a modern car within the speed limit on an empty motorway - they just don't want to keep the speed down!
 
I own a Peugeot 206 1.9 Diesel...just about the most economical vehicle on the road, attaining an average of about 58 mpg...Approve
 
but that is where the fun stops...it hates anyone who has the audacity to try to start the engine after its been standing idle for more than 3 days, does 0-60 in about two and a half weeks, so is unable to overtake a any one of our copious number of tractors on one of our rare and cherished 'straight' stretches of road when they come along, and aren't exactly known for being hard wearing...Confused
 
look m'am, the gear stick just came off in my hand...Ouch
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My car has an instantaneous mpg gauge and on motorways I will often use that to set my "cruising" speed, which may or may not be the national limit Wink
 
The bit that really hits the fuel consumption is urban driving - it's not a nice feeling watching the mpg gauge sitting around 10mpg - I rarely take my car into cities and big towns any more and will use the Park and Ride whenever possible.
 
 
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^^^LOL
 
this time of the year, driving in the country is somewhat similar...on the A44 east, you get stuck doing 10 mph behind convoys of trucks 'exporting' sheep from Wales.  On the way back west, you get stuck behind tractors 'exporting' potatoes from Herefordshire...Confused
 
TOTAL GRIDLOCK!!....LOL
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

My car has an instantaneous mpg gauge and on motorways I will often use that to set my "cruising" speed, which may or may not be the national limit Wink
 
The bit that really hits the fuel consumption is urban driving - it's not a nice feeling watching the mpg gauge sitting around 10mpg - I rarely take my car into cities and big towns any more and will use the Park and Ride whenever possible.
 
 
I'm glad our car doesn't have one of those. I'd spend half my life on the M25 watching my money drain away. Since my family live in Surrey, I often do the 100 mile round trip to visit them. What with the cost of petrol and the Angry bridge which is going up to £1.50 (when it should be free as promised) I won't be able to afford to go soon. It would be cheaper by train, if it wasn't for the extra hour it would take each way.
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