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One thing I did find is it's bloody difficult keeping a modern car within the speed limit on an empty motorway - they just don't want to keep the speed down!

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^^^you're welcome, Jim! you know it makes sense Wink
 
also correct tyre pressures, windows closed, weather etc. makes a difference as Dean said - the appliance of science!Big%20smile
 
 


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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:


Incidentally - I owe you a debt of thanks Steve - a couple of pages ago, when we were talking about money saving measures, you suggested the simple method of keeping within the speed limit to conserve fuel...

We went down to my mother's this weekend in Sussex (about 130 miles), ran her into Worthing & back on Saturday, then another 130 miles back yesterday; Kept to the speed limit all the way there & back and although we had a virtually empty road on the way home yesterday, we were stopping & starting all the way down on Friday in torrential rain & high winds (with frequent use of a/c to demist the car)...

So - approx 280 miles in all, on just under half a tank of petrol, say 5 gallons... so a Ford C-Max 1.8 (petrol) - approx 56 miles to the gallon.

Steve - thank you for the suggestion
 
It's a bit of a no brainer really but often the obvious things are those that pass us by.  Once a car is moving the fuel required to keep it moving at constant speed is pretty much affected only by the wind resistance (if you go up a hill you go down again later, getting that energy back).  The wind resistance is related to the speed of the car (by a complex equation but it rises faster than the speed hence most sports cars, regardless of power, running out of go in the mid to upper hundreds of mph) so the higher the speed the more energy required to keep at that speed; therefore more fuel needed to go faster.  (The same applies to the tyres, gearbox and engine but wind resistance is the killer).
 
When I used to go to Uni at Newcastle i could always get there from Oxfordshire on a full tank of fuel, but due to the prevailing wind usually being from the South West in our country I could never get back without stopping to fill up about 40 miles from home.  That's quite a difference in a 265 mile journey.Smile
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Aha! So Blind Undergraduate Tim could be a nom de blues for Tim Brooke-Taylor   

I always thought the original was Mike Harding, myself

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Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

 don't worry folks, here's a backup shed in case of a "worst scenario flood situation",  as they say in Reading...


All very well Steve, but we'd have to get rid of that youngster on the right

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Incidentally - I owe you a debt of thanks Steve - a couple of pages ago, when we were talking about money saving measures, you suggested the simple method of keeping within the speed limit to conserve fuel...

We went down to my mother's this weekend in Sussex (about 130 miles), ran her into Worthing & back on Saturday, then another 130 miles back yesterday; Kept to the speed limit all the way there & back and although we had a virtually empty road on the way home yesterday, we were stopping & starting all the way down on Friday in torrential rain & high winds (with frequent use of a/c to demist the car)...

So - approx 280 miles in all, on just under half a tank of petrol, say 5 gallons... so a Ford C-Max 1.8 (petrol) - approx 56 miles to the gallon.

Steve - thank you for the suggestion

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Well I woke up this mornin', woke up yesterday too
I say I woke up this mornin, I woke up yesterday too,
If I wakes up tomorrow
That'll be three days in a row

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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

[QUOTE=mystic fred] 
Did anyone hear the news report on Radio 1 this morning? - interviewing a woman in Wales whose house was flooded: "Woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden"...
 
Which would be a great opening line for a blues song:
 
"Woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden
I said I woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden
My lawnmower and garden tools have suffered severe water damage
But for the foreseeable future I won't be doing no work...
In the garden"
 
'Lawnmower Flood Damage Lapsed Insurance Policy Blues', John Lee Hooker, from the album 'Met Office Severe Weather Warning Blues'
 
second verse...
 
"Woke up this morning to see the Ducks floating around the garden
I said I woke up this morning to see the Ducks floating around the garden...
they say this is the best weather thay ever had,
they say their pond is the biggest they ever had....
and the Frogs agree"
 
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and another verse..
 
I got the shed-u-like-homebase downpayment blues ,
yeah I got the shed-u-like-homebase downpayment blues,
my baby's floatin' down the garden,
so what more have i got to lose..?
maybe my fence.
 
 
 


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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

  

Originally posted by prog-chick prog-chick wrote:

You boys are nowt but worry


Which is why we need you & Vicky around here - to instill a sense of decorum, sanity & stability
ErmmHmmm... not so sure about that -- but the dishes need doing, the lounge pillows need fluffing, the rug hoovering, the lunch cooking....Wink
 
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Wink Just kidding, me lovelies -- we guys actually don't want you near the beer...
 
 
 
 
I'll go to work now, shall I? Pinch
 
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

It's just a question of volume James, you get more in a mug.
 
My mug goes to 11 Big%20smile
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

[QUOTE=mystic fred] 
Did anyone hear the news report on Radio 1 this morning? - interviewing a woman in Wales whose house was flooded: "Woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden"...
 
Which would be a great opening line for a blues song:
 
"Woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden
I said I woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden
My lawnmower and garden tools have suffered severe water damage
But for the foreseeable future I won't be doing no work...
In the garden"
 
'Lawnmower Flood Damage Lapsed Insurance Policy Blues', John Lee Hooker, from the album 'Met Office Severe Weather Warning Blues'
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

 
don't worry folks, here's a backup shed in case of a "worst scenario flood situation",  as they say in Reading...Wink
 
 
Did anyone hear the news report on Radio 1 this morning? - interviewing a woman in Wales whose house was flooded: "Woke up this morning to see the Shed floating around the garden"...
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The water's still rising. If only there were a wooden structure of some kind that we could dismantle and make into a raft...
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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Cool new shed.............. will be heading back west this eveing do we need the chitty chitty bang bang-esque boat adapter on the car to get home?  Or shall I just sit in the trailer with a pair of oars?
 
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

well, its finally stopped raining over here...I'm thinking of setting a dove free out of the window, to see whether it will come back with an olive leaf in its beak...Unhappy

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Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

well, its finally stopped raining over here...I'm thinking of setting a dove free out of the window, to see whether it will come back with an olive leaf in its beak...Unhappy

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Oh dear...!



Calling all Shed Owners west of Reading!

Here we go a-bloody-gain

You guys all OK, or do we need to call out the lifeboats?


 
don't worry folks, here's a backup shed in case of a "worst scenario flood situation",  as they say in Reading...Wink
 
 
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well, its finally stopped raining over here...I'm thinking of setting a dove free out of the window, to see whether it will come back with an olive leaf in its beak...Unhappy
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I bet your glad there was more than just an Aryreon album in that Package I sent you.LOL
 
too true, my friend....Hug
 
and I'm now listening to Mandylion again, too....Wink
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Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Looks like it's bad over Jared's way.
 
thanks for the thought, Alan..
 
I have popped in with an updated weather report for West Herefordshire...Ouch
 
at present, I have a group of young male outdoor types wandering around the hostel aimlessly.  this is because their leader, who lives down a farm track outside a village near Bridgend, managed to flood his engine in a lake sized pothole, early this afternoon.  He had to be towed out by a local garage, where his vehicle now resides, ready to be 'drained' next week...
 
we had a manger's meeting here today, and the 2 chaps from Brecon, only just made it...single file traffic down the cats eyes at 11.00am...goodness knows if they made it back again at 3.00pm...Confused
 
in the mean time, the vertical stair-rods continue...my Sieges Even CD just about keeping out the incessant noise of them bouncing off the games room...
 
and I'm meant to be on holiday this week... treating myself to some nice days out...Cry

I bet your glad there was more than just an Aryreon album in that Package I sent you.LOL

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