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Points: 1170 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2008 at 04:16
Yes yes yes, then let's add Glenn Miller!
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It's long been a dream of mine to see Coltrane in, but alas, he doesn't fit the site yet.  New categories would mean new opportunities for non-Prog progressive artists/ bands.
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Speaking as a Coltrane novice, what albums of his fit the jazz-rock/fusion category if any?  He's an artist I wouldn't mind exploring further.
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As much as I love Coltrane, I don't see where he would fit on a prog rock website. His music may have been progressive jazz, but that means that we'd have to change this site to an all-inclusive progressive music one, and I don't think we should do that. The site is losing it's identity!
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Speaking as a Coltrane novice, what albums of his fit the jazz-rock/fusion category if any?  He's an artist I wouldn't mind exploring further.


He influenced jazz-rock (and jazz) and I have heard compositions of his that are similar to JRF.  Really, he's a progressive jazz artist rather than a progressive jazz-rock artist.
An album of his I used to really love was "A Love Supreme."  Fantastic album!  Some months ago on the radio I listened to a  program on him and wish I'd noted the compositions -- there was one in particular that I found stunning that I hadn't known.


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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

It's long been a dream of mine to see Coltrane in, .
 
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Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

As much as I love Coltrane, I don't see where he would fit on a prog rock website. His music may have been progressive jazz, but that means that we'd have to change this site to an all-inclusive progressive music one, and I don't think we should do that. The site is losing it's identity!



As long as we create new categories for non-rock progressive music, then I have no problem with such inclusions.  I must admit that I'd like to see this site become much more of a progressive music resource.
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Speaking as a Coltrane novice, what albums of his fit the jazz-rock/fusion category if any?  He's an artist I wouldn't mind exploring further.
 
His last efforts my friend, check first A Love Supreme he will blow out... 




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Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

As much as I love Coltrane, I don't see where he would fit on a prog rock website. His music may have been progressive jazz, but that means that we'd have to change this site to an all-inclusive progressive music one, and I don't think we should do that. The site is losing it's identity!

 
Yes my friend some of ours want to get Metallica as a progressive rock group!!!
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Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:



Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock


I agree on those too. Very Jazz/Fusion. Hancock's Head Hunters is a must to any Jazz Fusion fan. And Wayne Shorter, my dad plays a lot of them, and I really consider them fusion.
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I always found Giant Steps very prog
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I always found Giant Steps very prog


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^ It just misses the rock part.
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Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:



Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock


I agree on those too. Very Jazz/Fusion. Hancock's Head Hunters is a must to any Jazz Fusion fan. And Wayne Shorter, my dad plays a lot of them, and I really consider them fusion.


oh they are!

check out my Herbie Hancock thread suggesting him be added to the site
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Died before jazz fusion was sliver in music's eye; influence could stretch back and include (check your prog icons' hero lists) Bach Beethoven and the boys, Robert Johnson, Dylan (both Bob and Thomas), Lewis Carroll, Owsley (LSD maker), Star Trek, Mary Jane, Chet Atkins, and I could go on; died before prog was a rock journalist's tag; no, I won't go on ...
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2008 at 12:32
Seems to me like Coltrane and Davis define the line that should be drawn between a prog archive artist and simply a great jazz artist.  But I profess I need to know Coltrane better.
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