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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7932 |
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Excuse me, Erik, quotation is not clear.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Andrea Cortese ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
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Hi friends,
my parents will spend holidays between Valencia and Granada...
...I gave them a list of prog andaluz gems...
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() My Prog Andaluz list for your parents:
Juan Martin - Picasso Portraits
Sabicas - A Rock Encounter With Joe Beck
Triana - first two albums
Mezquita - Recuerdos De Mi Tierra
Medina Azahara - En El-Hakim
Azahara - Azahar
Alameda - CD compilation
Iman - first two albums
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7932 |
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Spend a half of a day to investigations.
TRIANA — Triana Vol. 2. Jesús de la Rosa. Canciones inéditas
Review by NotAProghead — First review of this album —
Information in the booklet (if one page can be called 'booklet') is minimalistic: last previously unreleased songs sung by Jesús de la Rosa, all written by Jesús de la Rosa, Eduardo Rodrigues Roadway and J.J. Palacios Tele; songs' titles and running times. That’s all. So before writing this review I had to make some investigations to shed a light to these songs' origins. Listening to this CD I had the idea that probably some de la Rosa work tapes have been found and surviving TRIANA musicians recorded music afterwards. Some Spanish blogs and online translator (study languages, boys and girls) helped to get the picture: ’’These unpublished songs by Jesús de la Rosa have the explanation. Soon after his death a cassette, containing songs without music, has been found among his things. Later Tele and Rodrigues added music to them. All songs come from the previous album, ''Tengo que Marchar'' (''I Must Go'') published by Tele and Eduardo Rodrigues.’’ What? There is another TRIANA album I was not aware of? How it is possible? It is not only possible, it is so. ’’Here the same old story repeats: necrophilia; attempts to sell everything that could be sold. Interesting posthumous disc ''Tengo que Marchar'' (''I Must Go'') with instruments added to home-made record of Jesús' voice, sung before ''El Patio'' album. ''Tengo que Marchar'' had to be deleted from the market because of copyright problems (some songs were drafts of subsequent ones and the rights belonged to Movieplay, now Fonomusic).’’ (www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/arena/2332/Biografia.htm) Summing it all up. 1. These records of Jesús de la Rosa voice were made in 1975 or a little earlier. 2. Posthumous TRIANA album ''Tengo que Marchar'' (''I Must Go'') exists. It is even possible to find its cover on the web. Songs of reviewed CD are taken from that album. The complete track list of ''Tengo que Marchar'’ is unknown for me (at least now).
Now to the songs. No organ or flamenco guitar here at all. Rock de la Calle Feria - nice song with catchy guitar riff, in current arrangements typical for TRIANA's 80s albums. I easily imagine it on any of them. Pájaro de Alas Blancas with good guitar solo is my favourite track here. Jueves por la Mañana - my least favourite song with mostly voice and 'honky tonk' piano. From the Other Side is the only TRIANA record I know sung in English, good bluesy tune with harmonica added to usual instruments. The rest are so-so, not bad, but nothing extraordinary. Two songs, ''Rock de la Calle Feria'' and ''Ser Felíz'', can be found, in different arrangements and sung by another singer, on Tele's TRIANA album ''Un Jardín Eléctrico'' (1996). Hard to recommend this album. Almost nothing for the majority and an obvious treasure for fans. ==========================================================================
Here the cover of mythical TRIANA album ''Tengo que Marchar'' (''I Must Go'') can be found http://groups.msn.com/RockAndaluz/trianadiscografa.msnw?Page=1
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Thanks for your interesting post, senor NoUnaCarbezaDeProg
![]() I have never heard of this Triana album but it reminds me of this one:
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Although you cannot find the word Prog Andaluz in Sean his elaborate review,
this is one of the most captivating and exciting Prog Andaluz albums:
MEZQUITA — Recuerdos de mi Tierra
Review by Sean Trane (Hugues Chantraine) Special Collaborator Prog-Folk Specialist
Opening on some distant bell knelling, the title track is very representative of the album, turning into a strongly classical tune (that could sound like a galloping Rondo), with obvious Spanish dramatic theme (the acoustic guitar answering the group in the middle part is breathtaking, especially once the electric guitar replaces the acoustic. The track is about an eclipse provoking a huge tidal wave (tsunami). The following track, the shorter Patios, is no less head-twisting as they group enters an infernal march onwards full of tempo changes, theme bending and instrumental virtuoso. “Since we’ve become just the two of us” is more or less the translation of the only overtly Flamenco track, even though the intro was not letting you on. On the flipside, Ara Buza the castanets have fearing the worst, but son the track digresses into Maur and Moroccan-type of influence. Excellent stuff. El Suicido returns to a Flamenco feel, rather subtly at first, than a little more once the track slows down (the return of the bells) and some delicious guitars (both electric and acoustic) laying on the full dramatics. The album finishes on the best track, an instrumental Obertura In Si Bemol (funny that they chose not to call it Clotura), which is another one of those head-twisting tune with not a single second rest for both the musicians and the listeners. Clearly one of the Iberic peninsula’s best folk-oriented symphonic prog album (some might have some doubts as to Flamenco being folk music, but indeed it is), Mezquita’s RDMT is one of these gems that have been unearthed a while ago and is not exactly obscure anymore, and the album has seen at least two different CD reissues, showing it is a consistent seller over the last two decades and deservingly so. If you don’t have it yet, you’d bet get a copy before you’re the last proghead in your country to have it. Recommended. ![]() |
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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![]() 12 Aug 2008 - José Francisco Romero Sánchez
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Andrea Cortese ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
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Hi Erik, yesterday I was in Milan airport where my parents have returned back from their holiday in Valencia and Granada. They visited Alhambra and are very enthusiast for that. They brought back three books on Granada and its wonderful hill plus 7 hundreds of digital pics they made by themselves.
Off the cd list I gave them they found these two items in a local shop in Granada (an old one and a new one):
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Do you know the spanish site coveralia.com? You can find album covers from all the bands within almost complete discography and high resolution images! Edited by Andrea Cortese - August 19 2008 at 15:32 |
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Hello Andrea.
Good to see you back and I am very glad that your parents liked the Alhambra (3 books and so many pictures
![]() I don't know that site but I am afraid that the pictures are protected
![]() My latest Prog Andaluz discovery is the new band Taifa, I hope to tell more very soon.
TAIFA ‘ALHAMBRA’ (FLAMENCO ROCK) Out of Spain comes TAIFA, a band which is combining different music genres, such as Flamenco, Andalusian and Progressive Rock. The result is the CD ‘Alhambra’, with it’s Spanish lyrics and various tempo changes a very diverse album, which still can be labeled as a melodic progrockalbum. Comparisons are of course hard (maybe MEDINA AZAHARA is a good one), because TAIFA has such an own sound and that is something worth checking out. The band recorded the CD between Spain and Morocco and you better check it our for yourself at: www.reinodetaifa.com and e-mail at: [email protected] (Points: 8.0 out of 10) Edited by erik neuteboom - August 18 2008 at 14:37 |
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Andrea Cortese ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
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^^^ hmmm, didn't see that the images didn't work... BTW, the albums are:
Alameda - s/t (1979)
Medina Azahara - Se Abre la Puierta (2007).
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Andrea, it often happens to me that I have discovered some great pictures for me threads on PA and then I notice the same problem as you
![]() Alameda their first album is a classic and Medina Azahara their Triana/Prog Andaluz tribute album Se Abre La Puerta is a very good effort
![]() By the way, the Paco De Lucia Sextet their very adventurous and progressive blend of flamenco, jazz and folk on PA wouldn't be a bad move
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Andrea Cortese ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
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Excellent review here by Cesar!
![]() He also added an interesting video of Alameda.
ALAMEDA — Noche Andaluza
Review by Cesar Inca (César Inca Mendoza Loyola) Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator — First review of this album —
Report this review (#179982) | Posted Monday, August 18, 2008, 22:11 EST |
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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I just wanted to post that Cesar review IN MY THREAD , Andrea
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Andrea Cortese ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
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^^^
well, Erik, you know... I must confess I couldn't resist!
![]() Today I listened to Alameda's debut and have to say the album is very good, very different to what other classic bands did. They play a more relaxed and jazzy flamenco prog with mellow synth's flights and and warm vocals. Very nice and appreciable! Another wonderful purchase!
BTW, another interesting review from you today. Didn't know Flairck and the thing now intrigues me. Edited by Andrea Cortese - August 19 2008 at 14:49 |
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Hello Andrea.
Alameda is great, since I bought the excellent and very comprehensive 2-CD compilation 1979-1983 I have become a huge fan of their music, you described it very well.
Good to see you have noticed my Flairck review, I have to admit that I was very surprised to see this legendary Dutch progfolk band on PA because last year I had opened a thread in which I started to promote The Stranglers, The Tubes, Journey and Flairck, how cynical that only Flairck has entered PA and not Journey or The Tubes ...
![]() After Flairck I consider the Paco De Lucia Sextet as the next interesting progressive folk formation to enter PA, both bands blended folk and jazz in a very progressive and adventurous way, I have seen this band 3 times and I was blown away by their unique sound, Paco De Lucia was such an innovative musician but not every conservative aficionado appreciated that he scouted the boundaries of flamenco with jazz, classical and ethnic music from Arabia. So I would like to recommend The Paco De Lucia Sextet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96NlHhDhCJA ![]() In 1981 Paco De Lucia sets up the sextet: Jorge Pardo on flute, Carles Benavent on bass, Rubem Dantas on percussion, Ramon de Algeciras on guitar and Pepe de Lucia singing. Paco de Lucia Septet gave several concerts in all the world and in 1984 they record a live album called Live One Summer Night.
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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This weekend I got an e-mail back from new Spanish Prog Andaluz band Taifa, early September
I will receive their new album entitled Alhambra, I read a lot of positive words about it
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aristillus ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: December 25 2005 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 13 |
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Here this one the link of the web of CAI ( http://www.alegriasdecai.com ), yet not this one in English but I hope that I am prompt. Your have ear his first disc "Más Allá de Nuestras mentes Diminutas?
I think that is record is fantástic rock progressive spanish
Well, also next year the group wants to record a new disc. Un abrazo and congratulation for you topic about rock andaluz.. Aristillus ![]() |
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erik neuteboom ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
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Muchas gracias, senor Aristillus Hasta luego, Prog Andaluz aficionados!
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Nightfly ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 01 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3659 |
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Taifa get the thumbs up from me, powerful stuff! Looking forward to your review Erik.
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