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Padraic
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:53 |
listennow801 wrote:
NaturalScience wrote:
I have Osiris and Shekina - they're good, but for me there's something lacking in the releases compared to that live album, which as you can see from my avatar is a current favorite. Certainly I would highly recommend it if you like those studio albums. It was recorded after Yochk'o Seffer left but Didier Lockwood is absolutely stunning on it.
will put it on my [absurdly voluminous!] 'wishlist' then - thanks for the heads up. [btw, 7L is the best, it was recommended to me many times when i first became enamoured w/ zeuhl, so if you don't know it, 'tis well worth a listen...]
Yes, I became a fast fan of Yoshi...very eager to check out the Soft Mountain project.
It's very good as i recall - has been a while though..
btw NS, where are you in PA? I'm in Pittsburgh presently [though i shall be in NY in a few months]
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Thanks for the advice re: Z=7L, I've heard good things about it from a few people so I'll try and pick it up one of these days. I'm loving this thread, but I can see that you're going to be another individual that's bad for my finances (but stellar for musical discovery).  As James mentioned I am indeed in the Philly suburbs (both house and work).
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:52 |
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Cleo: I'll sort out some Kandahar for you. I am sure I found a blog with both of their albums on...
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ohh!!! Thanks geck0, d/ling now...
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:51 |
NS = Pat, is in Bryn Mawr (well, for work)... so Philly.
Oops, I guess I should have let him answer that himself!
Cleo, did those links work?
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listennow801
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:47 |
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You also need Absolute Zero.
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oh yea! and Sotos, and Zaar, and...[my 1st days w/ all the wondrous recommendations here were severe wallet denters, but I've never regretted a moment...;)
Edited by listennow801 - July 18 2008 at 18:48
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listennow801
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:41 |
NaturalScience wrote:
I have Osiris and Shekina - they're good, but for me there's something lacking in the releases compared to that live album, which as you can see from my avatar is a current favorite. Certainly I would highly recommend it if you like those studio albums. It was recorded after Yochk'o Seffer left but Didier Lockwood is absolutely stunning on it.
will put it on my [absurdly voluminous!] 'wishlist' then - thanks for the heads up. [btw, 7L is the best, it was recommended to me many times when i first became enamoured w/ zeuhl, so if you don't know it, 'tis well worth a listen...]
Yes, I became a fast fan of Yoshi...very eager to check out the Soft Mountain project.
It's very good as i recall - has been a while though..
btw NS, where are you in PA? I'm in Pittsburgh presently [though i shall be in NY in a few months]
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Edited by listennow801 - July 18 2008 at 18:44
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:37 |
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Padraic
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:35 |
James wrote:
You also need Absolute Zero.
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First I need Univers Zero.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:20 |
And so you should be keen, Patrick!
It's a fantastic lineup and a terrific album.
You also need Absolute Zero.
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 17:43 |
listennow801 wrote:
NaturalScience wrote:
[ I know you weren't crazy on Zao but I have to stress their live album again. It absolutely blows the studio releases out of the water for its sheer energy and musicianship.
Zoa varies a lot over time - I really don't like their later work at all, but 7L, Osiris, and Shekina are truly goth[ic].* Don't know the Live myself, guess I shall have to try...
*[vernacular for "amazing/sublime music, nothing to do w/ the scene]
I have Osiris and Shekina - they're good, but for me there's something lacking in the releases compared to that live album, which as you can see from my avatar is a current favorite. Certainly I would highly recommend it if you like those studio albums. It was recorded after Yochk'o Seffer left but Didier Lockwood is absolutely stunning on it.
You'll love Ruins too, it's insane.
Indeed! My tongue was hanging out when I first imbibed their amazingly tight, tail-spinning, heavy-arsed wonder...; )
Yes, I became a fast fan of Yoshi...very eager to check out the Soft Mountain project.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 17:37 |
song_of_copper wrote:
Tantalising rumour re. Magma 40th anniversary concerts, Feb 09 (as seen on the Magma/Vander Yahoo group):
"There is a rumor that Jannick Top's Infernal Machina* will be the
opening act on at least a few of the days. Jannick is almost sure to be
guesting with Magma ... probably on MDK and De Futura."
(*I feel I ought to say something perspiration-related, but do not wish to be needlessly indelicate... )
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Oi, cheeky!   I also read this over at ProgressiveEars (which I never visit usually but was trying to find a review for Infernal Machina and found other information instead). It's a shame I don't have a passport at the moment...  Cleo: I'll sort out some Kandahar for you. I am sure I found a blog with both of their albums on...
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 16:19 |
Tantalising rumour re. Magma 40th anniversary concerts, Feb 09 (as seen on the Magma/Vander Yahoo group): "There is a rumor that Jannick Top's Infernal Machina* will be the
opening act on at least a few of the days. Jannick is almost sure to be
guesting with Magma ... probably on MDK and De Futura." (*I feel I ought to say something perspiration-related, but do not wish to be needlessly indelicate...  )
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 16:12 |
NaturalScience wrote:
[ I know you weren't crazy on Zao but I have to stress their live album again. It absolutely blows the studio releases out of the water for its sheer energy and musicianship.
Zoa varies a lot over time - I really don't like their later work at all, but 7L, Osiris, and Shekina are truly goth[ic].* Don't know the Live myself, guess I shall have to try...
*[vernacular for "amazing/sublime music, nothing to do w/ the scene]
You'll love Ruins too, it's insane.
Indeed! My tongue was hanging out when I first imbibed their amazingly tight, tail-spinning, heavy-arsed wonder...; )
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 15:49 |
James wrote:
I do have samples. yes. I'm sure MS had them... maybe a different blog. I'll sort something out.
They're excellent to my ears. I reviewed the debut by the way, if you care to take a read. 
Just do bear in mind the sound quality isn't amazing, due to the released never appearing on CD. I think one's from tape and the other's from vinyl.
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Thanks James - looked on MS, but couldn't find anything. [Found some Nirgal Vallis though!] when i put it in engines, even "+ blogspot," just things relating to the city [tons, of course] come up.
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 15:36 |
I do have samples. yes. I'm sure MS had them... maybe a different blog. I'll sort something out. They're excellent to my ears. I reviewed the debut by the way, if you care to take a read.  Just do bear in mind the sound quality isn't amazing, due to the released never appearing on CD. I think one's from tape and the other's from vinyl.
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 15:30 |
James wrote:
Oh, I have Sol Central, I still haven't listened to it, oops!
I don't know Designios though.
It is HOT!
José Fernández Ledesma Q. was in the Mexican avant-prog band Nirgal Vallis as well, who I haven't heard yet either.
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Ohh, good to know - have to do some research, thanks :)
btw James, i was looking at the Canterbury thread and noted your mention of Kandahar a few times, and it piqued my interest, but I couldn't find any info. Have any samples...?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 15:24 |
Oh, I have Sol Central, I still haven't listened to it, oops!
I don't know Designios though.
José Fernández Ledesma Q. was in the Mexican avant-prog band Nirgal Vallis as well, who I haven't heard yet either.
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 14:33 |
some really wondrous things i've been listening to lately - def. appeal to rio fans:
more trad art rock:
I just finished listening to "Designios" again, and man this kicks!!! Here's a good review:
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Synopsis. Wow! No, I'd better keep my transports for the Conclusion. Well, on "Designios", Fernandez turned towards a Classic Symphonic Art-Rock sound, which, as far as I know, he did for the first time. There are nine tracks on the album, eight of which are songs, though most of them feature much more of purely instrumental arrangements than vocally instrumental ones. Alone, Fernandez and Margarita Botello, whose vocals are very touching on this album, performed only the first two songs here: Ave Luz (Ave Louisa) and The Blind Wall. Both of them are richer in vocals than any of the further songs on "Designios" and are about a semi-acoustic Symphonic Art-Rock with the pronounced elements of music of Mexican Indians. Although both of the following tracks: Saena and The One-day Song (3 & 4) are of the same stylistics overall, there are lesser exotic tunes on them. (The first of them is the only instrumental composition here and features only a couple of episodes with vocalize.) These two, as well as Abyss and Designs of the Twins (5 & 6), were performed by most of the members of the line-up on "Designios" and are distinguished by large-scaled, hard-edged, diverse, intricate, and highly intriguing instrumental arrangements. Apart from those of traditional Rock instruments, including drums, all of them feature the parts of violins, flute, and piano, though the solos and passages of acoustic guitars remain here almost as notable as they are on the first two tracks on the album. (The parts of acoustic guitars play actually a very significant role on "Designios".) On Abyss and Designs of the Twins, there are only the pale shades of music of Mexican Indians, and stylistically, they represent a purely classic, yet, just incredibly fresh and original Symphonic Art-Rock with elements of Classical Music, Baroque music, and Prog-Metal. The latter elements are especially evident on Designs of the Twins, which, IMHO, is the best of the epics created after 1977 (here, I mean "Animals" by Pink Floyd) and is on par with most of the sidelong masterworks released in the first half of the 1970s. Magic is the word. (This word though, sounds topical with regard to the entire album.) A unique fusion of Classic Symphonic Art-Rock and Classical Music is presented also on the last track here: Punta Cometa, but it doesn't feature any stylistic 'makeweights'. "
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Posted: July 18 2008 at 14:09 |
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M.
I also say "Nivraym". It's just a smidgen behind "Angherr Shisspa" for me. All their albums are fantastic though. "Nivraym" has lots of juicy piano and synth like "Angherr Shisspa" but has no saxophone. The earlier albums neither piano (well, not in the same way) or saxophone.
If you love the piano on "Angherr Shisspa", I recommend you get both (yes both) Le Silo albums. They're fantastic!
Some useful detail, thanks! But I kind of like everything about 'Angherr Shisspa'... As mentioned, will pick up this stuff later.
You should have got both Thollot albums, as they're both $9!
I can't buy everything (I wish!)... 
I don't have any Marcoeur on CD but I do have some samples to check out. Etron Fou Leloublan are also brilliant but I think you may get on better with Volapuk first. Especially the essential live album "Where is Tamishii?".
I've only recently bought "Arbeit Macht Frei" and haven't had the chance to give it a spin yet.
It's seriously wonderful. Very purposeful, exuberant, passionate and confidently quirky! Plus, Demetrio Stratos = .
Oh and yes, the Present 2fer is essential!
I second that emotion! 
I must get the remastered "1313"... I must!
Also, you're going to find it almost impossible to find Dun's Eros on CD. I haven't yet. 
Ahead of you there, I'm afraid. I found a 2nd hand copy! Wasn't overly costly, either...
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 22:01 |
M. I also say "Nivraym". It's just a smidgen behind "Angherr Shisspa" for me. All their albums are fantastic though. "Nivraym" has lots of juicy piano and synth like "Angherr Shisspa" but has no saxophone. The earlier albums neither piano (well, not in the same way) or saxophone. If you love the piano on "Angherr Shisspa", I recommend you get both (yes both) Le Silo albums. They're fantastic! You should have got both Thollot albums, as they're both $9! I don't have any Marcoeur on CD but I do have some samples to check out. Etron Fou Leloublan are also brilliant but I think you may get on better with Volapuk first. Especially the essential live album "Where is Tamishii?". I've only recently bought "Arbeit Macht Frei" and haven't had the chance to give it a spin yet. Oh and yes, the Present 2fer is essential! I must get the remastered "1313"... I must! Also, you're going to find it almost impossible to find Dun's Eros on CD. I haven't yet.
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 18:42 |
Bj-1 wrote:
You obviously haven't heard that Present 2-for-1 thing. 
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Calm down children - they're both excellent albums that should be in any self respecting music collection, although for sheer value for money I think the Present twofer is pretty much unbeatable.
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'Like so many of you
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