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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 13:12
i have only heard the single so i cant really comment. cold play to me though are a relic of a bygone era,and this new record is an attempt to look hip and experimental. there are other groups in england like late of the pier and foals that are experimental in ways cold play couldnt even imagen.the're also far more enjoyable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 13:25
"Violet Hill" is amazing song (and video too). It owns my last week's LastFM top actually. Haven't heard the album yet, but now going to

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Even their first single for the album had the same chord progression as Clocks!


I thought I was the one to notice Speed of Sound is Clocks' (self)rip-off
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 14:08
Um guys, if your curious about 'Viva La Vida', you can listen to the whole album in its entirety on last.fm.com if you didn't know that already. Thats what i did, and usually do if its available, instead of buying an album and ending up hating it.
 
As for the album, i listened to the whole thing last night and although im not exactly sure if i liked it, it was definintely high-quality pop music. There weren't as many songs that stuck with me, its not really that kind of album, but the atmosphere and the production was really nice.
 
A few other albums available in their entirety on Last.fm that i know of:
 
Porcupine Tree- In Absentia, Deadwing
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum- Natural History
Unexpect- In a Flesh Aquarium
Riverside- Out of Myself
 
*edit*- (oh and) Opeth- Still Life Big%20smile... and the special edition with 5.1 surround sound just came out so if you end up liking it, you can get that and a re-mastered version of the album for a regular album price.
 
... and for sure there are more, but those are the ones from bands ive taken the time to search for so far.
 
Alright good luck guys! Keep.... Art-poppin'?!?!?!.....
 
 


Edited by SoundsofSeasons - June 24 2008 at 14:57
1 Chronicles 13:7-9

Then David and all Israel played music before God with all their might, with singing, on harps, on stringed instruments, on tambourines, on cymbals, and with trumpets.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:07
Crap, you go get wasted off your ass ONE NIGHT, and this is what happens...stupid threads that people actually post in...
 
Okay, some notes on the posts, as best I can. First off, if Panic is a pretentious Fall Out, then My Chem is a pretentious those dudes. I think of the lot of 'em (and they hate being lumped together, but everyone does it), MCR is the most talented.
 
I don't really know too much about 30 Seconds to Mars, other than they had a killer music video (if memory serves) of the boys in the band kung fu fighting in samurai gear.
 
I think it's pretty interesting that so many proggers are rallying behind Vida (and, yes, I DO think that Brian Eno is THAT good of a producer (the man wrote "Backwater," remember? He must be a genius). Coldplay definitely had talent before (I say this only knowing the stuff on the radio), but they just needed an extra...oomph, ya know? Eno got 'em into the right mood to make radio singles about lost love and fallen empires, rather than how much they dig this chick).
 
Classic Rocker: I don't know too much The Flaming Lips or Animal Collective, but the Lips is a band that I've meant to get into for a while now. I think you've given me my next conquest.
 
Moatilliatta: That sounds pretty good then, your prediciton about the new Death Cab album, but one thing that I liked about "I Will Possess Your Heart" is that it has that early art rock feel, where it's just a band in a studio trying to just jam their way into prog rock, without any tricks or gimicks (albums like The Yes Album, Strange Days and Minstrel in the Gallery all fall under this category, although I think on the latter two that was intentional. To a certain extent, some of the Decemberists stuff sounds like this too).
 
I really like that sound; the MCR album (The Black Parade) and the Coldplay album both fail the mark for that sound, just because Coldplay has Brian Eno, who instantly makes 'em sound professional; MCR sounds a little more like it, but they actually know how to play their instruments, so they can sort of skip that stage and sound fairly professional. I don't mean that they're the Mars Volta or nothin', but they know their way around a weird song well enough not to sound like kids in the studio.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 22:22
Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

I don't know too much The Flaming Lips or Animal Collective, but the Lips is a band that I've meant to get into for a while now. I think you've given me my next conquest.


I highly recommend the Flaming Lips' "Soft Bulletin" :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_Bulletin

You might also want to check out Sufan Stevens:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufjan_Stevens

especially this album:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_on_Feel_the_Illinoise

Both of these albums have some very prog traits. And they're both great.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 01:25
hmmm  just makes you think .... prog can be anything we trick ourselves into believing Disapprove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 01:30
Originally posted by peskypesky peskypesky wrote:

Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

I don't know too much The Flaming Lips or Animal Collective, but the Lips is a band that I've meant to get into for a while now. I think you've given me my next conquest.


I highly recommend the Flaming Lips' "Soft Bulletin" :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_Bulletin

You might also want to check out Sufan Stevens:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufjan_Stevens

especially this album:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_on_Feel_the_Illinoise

Both of these albums have some very prog traits. And they're both great.

These two albums are amazing.
For Animal Collective, you should probably start with Feels. I think it suits your tastes best.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 01:39
'Computer Love' is still better than 'Talk'.
 
I'm pretty sure that's the only Coldplay discussion we're allowed to have at Prog Archives.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 02:46
Very good post, Mr. W ! ...though i was amazed at seeing the "big C" mentioned in PA at all, let alone an album review! i can now admit to being a long time fan of the band, backed up by what is being vaunted as the album of the year in pop land - the moody members of Coldplay certainly interest many genres of music lovers, well done guys! Clap
 
Coldplay could never be included in PA listings, i fear, if only for the reason that you can buy their albums in Tescos! Embarrassed
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 11:09
Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:

hmmm  just makes you think .... prog can be anything we trick ourselves into believing Disapprove
...and vice versa Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2008 at 14:53
Very good album.. I must say... "proggiest of the year?" ...that's a bit of a stretch....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2008 at 11:28
My daughter bought this album a few days ago.  Because of your post Mr. Whistler I decided to give it a listen.  I too have never been excited with their music.  However, I liked this one.  It was an entertaining and enjoyable listen.  So I put it on my iPod.  I wouldn't call it the proggiest album of the year either but it has some proggy moments.  A  Thumbs%20Up album to say the least!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2008 at 23:13
I never liked coldplay, but this disc was quite enjoyable (I heard it on lastfm except for Sleeping giant). I would give it somewhere from 2.5 - 3 star based on what I have heard and the climax of the last song is actually beautiful. The title track, the closer, and a somewhat ethnic/symphonic song I don't remember its name are my favorites (tho I didn't hear Sleeping Giant which appears to be among the more adventurous tracks).

I don't think it has much to do with prog IMO, but it has a nice airy atmosphere (the production is fabulous, thanks Eno) and is more musically interesting than their previous stuff. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2008 at 05:35
I am aghast.  I come to Prog Archives to take refuge from the annoying affected whining vocals of Chris Martin and "popular" bands like Coldplay.  And what do I find?  Discussions about Coldplay and how they might be proggy!  ARGHH!!  Granted, 2008 has been a slow year for prog releases but even so, this is one desperate slippery slope towards Prog Archives being a useless and pointless site if *any* band can be argued to have prog tendencies.  The definition of prog will become so vague as to be completely pointless...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2008 at 11:02
^ then go to the "prog music lounge" where we talk about PROG.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2008 at 15:23
As much as I like the new Coldplay, it ain't prog. It's not even art-rock, IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2008 at 22:56
First of all, great blog..Thumbs%20Up

I'm a fan of Coldplay since their first album, although the last one, X&Y, was very repetitive and boring, with the exception of songs like Fix You and The Hardest Part. So this band was dead for me, i didn't expect anything new from them...but i was wrong. It seems like they realised that too. Brian Eno made a very good work with this guys and they brought a great new album. It's not perfect, but it realy good if we listen to all the crap that is released in this days. It's only a way of talking.

For all the people that say that this isn't a band that deserve some discussion in this site, i say open your mind and get of the closet. If we stay attached to the root of prog and if we listen only prog, we will be like the people that only listen metal or techno. I try to listen some other stuff that is not prog. With this I discovered Opeth, Spitz (an alternative pop-rock japanese band that some times resemble Beatles) and other bands. If you don't  know give it a try..Smile

From this album there are 3 or 4 main songs: 42, Yes (it's actually a two-in-one song), Violet Hill and Strawberry Swing. 42 is probably the most prog song from the album, but the end of Violet Hill is absolutely fantastic..it's 34 seconds of great musical sense. Maybe it's a return to the prog ideal..i hope so..Smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2008 at 03:50
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Very good album.. I must say... "proggiest of the year?" ...that's a bit of a stretch....
 
Well, that MIGHT have been a slight exaggeration...or "hook" as they say in the industry. Heh.
 
(Yeah, that's right objectors. No one saying that Coldplay is the new Gentle Giant. Just that intelligence ain't dead in popular music; seriously, did you read the post at all, or just go based on the title?)
 
Hey, MoreIt'sMe, I doubt you're still reading, but what do you mean the Animal Collective album is best suited for my tastes? I'm curious now...
 
(Oh, and, I'm downloading some random Flaming Lips tracks. If'n anyone cares.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2008 at 04:16
GREAT blog my friend, sorry I didn't read it thoroughly the first time.. someday you'll be the one writing the album notes we all read  (now that would be a good gig..)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2008 at 14:05
Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Hey, MoreIt'sMe, I doubt you're still reading, but what do you mean the Animal Collective album is best suited for my tastes? I'm curious now...
 
(Oh, and, I'm downloading some random Flaming Lips tracks. If'n anyone cares.)

Cool Stuff. Since you appear to be interested in these bands, I'd say with Animal Collective try out Moreitsy's recommendation Feels or their newest album Strawberry Jam (the latter is what got me into them, and I still prefer it above the others).

If you are liking the Flaming Lips' style, I'd strongly recommend Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots and as someone else suggested The Soft Bulletin. I got At War With The Mystics recently, but it's not as good as the other two.
From their pre-"commercial" (read: pre-soft bulletin) period, I've only heard one album (when grunge was still the rage; you can hear the influence). The track from it "She Don't Use Jelly" is always good for a laugh with it's off-beat lyrics, and the tune isn't bad either.

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