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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:22
Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

What annoys me - and escuse me, whilst I rant a bit - is the fact that everyone seems to worship Karl Jenkins' classical career.  His classical albums, like Adiemus, seem to always be in the top 10 on Classic FM polls and the like.

People forget his career with Graham Collier, Nucleus and Soft Machine and apparently, so does he, as he never mentioned this side of his career on Desert Island Discs.

I find him a bit annoying now but I love his work with the Canterbury Scene.  I don't find his classical works that appealing.  Infact, compositionally, he isn't that great, not even with Soft Machine as he used the same riff a lot. LOL
 
Oh i like JENKINS a lot....first he brought some life and energy in the (Soft) Machine .And his best came with BUNDLES and the great SOFTS.....(Banban Caliban....oh mamma mia!!!!Heart)........a far cry from FifthLOL
aH the riff, i know what you mean...very M.Orchestra style.......but i love it!!!!
SOFTS a 5 star album for me


I love Softs and Bundles but did he have to reuse that riff from his Nucleus days? WinkLOL  I forget which track it is.


Edited by James - June 02 2008 at 22:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:21
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I cannot choose one, they're all individual talents and cannot be measured on "greatness" scale.

Phil Howard also played on Rock Bottom, along with Cutler, didn't he?  Or am I imagining that?


Did Chris Cutler play on the record?  I know Ivor Cutler did.


You're right... erm... my memory has failed.

Oh wait, it was the wonderful Laurie Allan who was on it.  How could I forget him?  His drumming is outstanding and mimics Wyatt's style very well.

Frith was on it, not Cutler (Chris).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:18
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I've been neglecting my National Health boxset... I'll have to grab it one day and play all their albums together.


I had to put it down due to overplay...it was a bad addiction.  Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:18
Originally posted by James James wrote:

What annoys me - and escuse me, whilst I rant a bit - is the fact that everyone seems to worship Karl Jenkins' classical career.  His classical albums, like Adiemus, seem to always be in the top 10 on Classic FM polls and the like.

People forget his career with Graham Collier, Nucleus and Soft Machine and apparently, so does he, as he never mentioned this side of his career on Desert Island Discs.

I find him a bit annoying now but I love his work with the Canterbury Scene.  I don't find his classical works that appealing.  Infact, compositionally, he isn't that great, not even with Soft Machine as he used the same riff a lot. LOL
 
Oh i like JENKINS a lot....first he brought some life and energy in the (Soft) Machine .And his best came with BUNDLES and the great SOFTS.....(Banban Caliban....oh mamma mia!!!!Heart)........a far cry from FifthLOL
aH the riff, i know what you mean...very M.Orchestra style.......but i love it!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:17
Originally posted by James James wrote:

I cannot choose one, they're all individual talents and cannot be measured on "greatness" scale.

Phil Howard also played on Rock Bottom, along with Cutler, didn't he?  Or am I imagining that?


Did Chris Cutler play on the record?  I know Ivor Cutler did.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:17
I've been neglecting my National Health boxset... I'll have to grab it one day and play all their albums together.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:15
Originally posted by Chameleon Chameleon wrote:

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It's ok, though. Long Piece No.3 in its entirety today just about blew my mind.


Clap  That album absolutely rules.
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I cannot choose one, they're all individual talents and cannot be measured on "greatness" scale.

Phil Howard also played on Rock Bottom, along with Cutler, didn't he?  Or am I imagining that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:14
Originally posted by Chameleon Chameleon wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:


Clive wasn't bad, but he was just so overpowered by the other stupendous musicians in Egg.
 
Translation : Dave Stewart overpowered everyone completely and utterly
 
It's ok, though. Long Piece No.3 in its entirety today just about blew my mind.


Trying to give credit to Mont Campbell as well, that guy was such an intelligent and talented musician.  He wrote almost all the Egg material.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:13
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:


Clive wasn't bad, but he was just so overpowered by the other stupendous musicians in Egg.
 
Translation : Dave Stewart overpowered everyone completely and utterly
 
It's ok, though. Long Piece No.3 in its entirety today just about blew my mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:13
If I had to choose one, it would probably be Pip Pyle.  Especially with National Health he was just off the charts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:11
Marshall for me, as I've said already, is just outstanding.  He's all over-the-place on most of the albums I've heard him on but that's a good thing.  He's not overpowering and he's certainly not in the background.  He's an essential part of every band he's played with.  Some drummers just seem to get drowned out or just overwhelmed.  Marshall doesn't.  You can hear him quite clearly.

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Originally posted by Chameleon Chameleon wrote:

I always think of Clive Brooks as Basil Dowling, his Arzachel pseudonym. I can't un-think it.


Clive wasn't bad, but he was just so overpowered by the other stupendous musicians in Egg.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:05
Clive Brooks good drummer  i saw him Play with the Mighty Groundhogs  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:05
What annoys me - and escuse me, whilst I rant a bit - is the fact that everyone seems to worship Karl Jenkins' classical career.  His classical albums, like Adiemus, seem to always be in the top 10 on Classic FM polls and the like.

People forget his career with Graham Collier, Nucleus and Soft Machine and apparently, so does he, as he never mentioned this side of his career on Desert Island Discs.

I find him a bit annoying now but I love his work with the Canterbury Scene.  I don't find his classical works that appealing.  Infact, compositionally, he isn't that great, not even with Soft Machine as he used the same riff a lot. LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:05
hey, some musical common ground with laplacido, cheers

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:02
for originality and tightness - Cutler
for jazzinjhgjxhkjxhg - Cutler ;P

I always thought ze drummer from PdP was warm, crisp and understated. lol three terms perfect for sound engineers and meaningless WRT describing music
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:00
I always think of Clive Brooks as Basil Dowling, his Arzachel pseudonym. I can't un-think it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 22:00
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Eric Peachey


Yes, I once looked that name up and well... I was a bit disturbed.  Be careful, is all I can say.

He also performed on Nicholas Greenwood's Cold Cuts, as well as with Khan, of course.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:58
For solos and jazziness - Marshall
For originality and tightness - Pyle
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