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Atavachron
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:58 |
Eric Peachey
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Padraic
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:57 |
How could I forget Moerlen? My brain is fried.
Moerlen, Pyle, Wyatt, and Cutler are all equally awesome to me.
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febus
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:57 |
And about the loveliest Canterbury man, Kevin Ayers can give a run for his money to Richard Sinclair, don't you think so?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:56 |
John Marshall never fails for me though, it has to be said. I've yet to hear a terrible performance from him. Wyatt had his uninspired moments yet to me, still sounded fantastic.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:55 |
That's the one, cheers! I was too lazy to look it up.
Oh and don't forget Moerlen of Gong and Clive Brooks of Egg.
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febus
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:54 |
Pierre Moerlen can count as well, French, yes but associated with Gong!!!!
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:54 |
Clive Brooks and let's not forget Bruford plays on Paracelsus
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Leningrad
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:51 |
Richard Coughlan
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:50 |
Oh crap... Cutler!
I would count Cutler.
Well you have the drummer of Caravan, whose name escapes me and is currently ill, unfortunately. You also had Howard, Wyatt's replacement in Soft Machine, before Marshall joined.
Edited by James - June 02 2008 at 21:51
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Padraic
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:48 |
Those are the only three I know, unless you want to count Cutler.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:47 |
Anyhow, back on track... favourite Canterbury drummers?
It's difficult but my list would contain:
Wyatt Marshall Pyle
I love all three for different reasons. They all have completely different styles yet all three are distinctive and utterly brilliant in every way. I'm currently listening to Marshall in 1969 with Graham Collier Sextet and before he joined Nucleus and Soft Machine. Amazing stuff!
Marshall - jazzy, tight and uses the whole kit; his solos are some of the best I've ever heard... but Hiseman beats him just in those stakes Wyatt - not sure how to describe his style; he played drums with his hands a lot though and I personally love that sound Pyle - the drummers drummer; could play any style but is well known for his outrageous yet tight avant-garde style
Any others to add?
Edited by James - June 02 2008 at 21:49
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:43 |
I don't believe you.
That's an Unbelievable Lie!
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:38 |
Phil Collins is the loveliest man ever, but Sinclair is close
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:27 |
I have one In Cahoots album and it's great! I should have bought some when I saw Hatfield and the North as they were selling In Cahoots and Equipe'Out albums. I bought Hatwise Choice and got it signed by Miller and Sinclair though.
Sinclair might possibly be the loveliest man ever. He's brilliant!
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Padraic
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:25 |
Atavachron wrote:
I'm a bit surprised Phil Miller is so under-reviewed, such a distinctive talent
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I still need to get some In Cahoots.
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:24 |
I'm a bit surprised Phil Miller is so under-reviewed, such a distinctive talent
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febus
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:21 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
Not a bad album by any means, but I find Caravan's Waterloo Lily somewhat lacklustre in comparison to both its predecessor and its follow-up. Richard Sinclair is given too little space there in the vocal department, and in my opinion that shows. |
YES, Richard Sinclair sings only one song, but the meat of the album---the 2 10mns tracks-- is great and it is the most jazzy CARAVAN i have heard...and the bass of SINCLAIR is an absolute treat on those tracks.Sure i could have survived without the silly short Hastings tracks (Aristocracy, etc). Steve Miller (if my memory is intact  ) on keys brings some ''Soft Machine'' athmosphere with his el-piano 
My love for Caravan stopped with this album.....never was able to keep up with Hastings voice for a whole album...but that's just me i guess!
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:17 |
Oh and one more must buy, if you can find it:
Graham Collier Sextet - Down Another Road
Just look at the lineup!
Harry Beckett (flugelhorn), Stan Sulzmann (alto & tenor sax), Nick Evans (trombone), Karl Jenkins (piano & oboe), John Marshall (drums), Graham Collier (bass) . Recorded in London, England, March 21 & 22, 1969.
Basically this band contains three future Soft Machine members (although Evans was only a sessionman really), whilst Beckett fwas also on the fringe in Isipingo and other bands. I don't know much about Sulzmann.
Lullabye for a Lonely Child is heartwrenchingly gorgeous and I prefer this version to the Nucleus one (featuring Marshall and Jenkins as well).
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Padraic
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:17 |
James wrote:
Oh and I've only heard it once but Flying Teapot was a but over/underwhelming. I think I need to give it a proper listen one day.
Patrick, a word of warning: be careful with Wyatt's debut album The End of an Ear as it's more avant-garde than Henry Cow yet I personally love it. There's so slight similarities with Matching Mole but I'd say you're more likely to enjoy Matching Mole than The End of an Ear.
Oh and get Nucleus' first two, they're brilliant!
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I found Flying Teapot underwhelming as well, and my thoughts about its abysmal sound quality have been posted repeatedly in various threads around here. Interesting: I thought I read once that Wyatt dismissed End of an Ear as "juvenile" or something, and didn't really consider it as a legitimate part of his overall oeuvre. I might be thinking of someone else, it's possible.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 21:12 |
Oh and I've only heard it once but Flying Teapot was a but over/underwhelming. I think I need to give it a proper listen one day.
Patrick, a word of warning: be careful with Wyatt's debut album The End of an Ear as it's more avant-garde than Henry Cow yet I personally love it. There's so slight similarities with Matching Mole but I'd say you're more likely to enjoy Matching Mole than The End of an Ear.
Oh and get Nucleus' first two, they're brilliant!
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