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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Welcome back mon amie! I absolutely love The Polite Force - I really think it ranks as one of the best Canterbury albums, and to be honest I think Mont Campbell is among the most underrated (if you forgive the term) prog musicians. Have never heard that Jakko album but you've intrigued me - can you list the musicians who play on it? Maybe Dick Heath can provide input if he sees these posts. |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Three key albums to start: Hatfield and the North - s/t debut (The Rotters' Club is also excellent, but I have a slight preference for this one) Gong - You Soft Machine - Third Absolutely come back and let us know what you think - we'll ![]() |
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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Excellent album - and but for Jakko's non-inclusion on this site you could have an interview I did with Jakko January 2007, which includes talks about the making of Bruised Romantic and it would have been my nomination as the prog album of 2006 - I was priviledged that Jakko sent me a pre-release copy in April 2006. It is a great double album, CD 1 is made up of Jakko's compositions, CD 2 largely includes a number of his favoured tunes as covers.
Line-up includes Gavin Harrison on many tracks, Robert Fripp, Dave Stewart (Jakko's colleague from Rapid Eye Movement), Hugh Hopper, Mel Collin (I also think - without the CD notes in front of me -) Ian McDonald, Danny Thompson, etc. - who indicate the Canterbury come Krimson flavour of the album. If you know Jakko's previous releases - especially those done in the company of former Japan members e.g. Kingdom Of Dust - that will give you a hint the musical style of CD 1. CD 2 (i.e. largely covers) brings Soft Machine, Henry Cow and King Crimson tunes on to one side of CD. Jakko provides vocals, the sometimes Holdsworthian guitar, and the less occasional flute.
However, it may be more difficult to get hold of the album, since I've just read Iceni Records has gone into receivership, although Jakko is trying to recover remaining CD stock. Also recommend Jakko fronting 21st Century Schizoid Band's Live In New York - although that too was released on Iceni Records and obviously has a strong Krimson flavour with the band's other members and the tunes covered.
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Dick Heath ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock Specialist Joined: April 19 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 12818 |
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I would add Caravan's If I Could Do It All over Agan I'll Do it All Over You, which I've always heard as a spirited challenge to Soft Machine pioneering Canterbury work - especially set against another favourite Machine's Volume Two - and probably as jazzy as Caravan will go until their reformation in the 90's. I really have a dilemma going for Volume Two or Third (and indeed if in a psychedelic mood, the eponymous Soft Machine album). Volume Two represents better than most albums of the period the transition from psychedelic playing/lyrics to more progressive flavoured music - however, by the time Machine reformed and produced Third, they had shifted into avant jazz fusion but with the temporary problem of Wyatt wanting to perform that gem Moon In June.
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The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS.
CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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I couldn't agree more, however MisterProg2112 indicated that he had obtained some Caravan; I guess I just assumed he has this particular record. If I'm wrong, then add this to the list - essential Canterbury IMO. |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Dick, I'm absolutely drooling over this description - sad to hear that the album may be difficult to obtain, but I shall be on the hunt for it. |
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
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Thanks a lot to Dick for the album information
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Update: the Jakko album can be obtained in mp3 form through Amazon or emusic. Obviously not a preferred format for a lot of people, but looks like it's the only game in town right now.
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Poser ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 31 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 121 |
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Hi! I have $20 to spend on iTunes and I'm wondering which National Health album to get (to start). Probably Of Queues and Cures, right? Might be an obvious answer. Then what? I have In the Land of Grey and Pink, The Polite Force, You, Fourth and The Rotter's Club. Obviously I really like Caravan, Hatfield and Gong (so far). Should I expand on those or should I trial different bands? And yes, I'll trust a stranger's decision more than my own.
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rileydog22 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
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Get Soft Machine's Third. Immediately. Plus, it's a mere 4 bucks on iTunes! |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Do what rileydog said ![]() Get the first two National Health and Hatfield's debut as well. Get Caravan's If I Could... Happy listening! ![]() |
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Leningrad ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 15 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 7991 |
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We've been over this before, you. Of Queues And Cures will basically change your life. If it doesn't, your copy is obviously faulty and pirated. |
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Poser ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 31 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 121 |
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Alright, alright Deelain. Buy'd. Lov'd.
![]() iTunes doesn't have If I Could do it all Over Again...Or anything Hatfield. It's all because I broke a mirror. Bad luck until I'm 23.
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
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OK, my search-and-destroy mission of today was largely fruitful, seen as I got home not only with Jakko Jakszyk's aforementioned album (which will make all of you green with envy
![]() ![]() That said, the Jakko album is indeed superb, and he deserves addition in PA immediately. The only thing is, where are we going to put it? Besides Canterbury, on the strength of this album I think Xover (or even eclectic) could be a good placement for him. I'm quite willing to do the addition myself, and will talk to Micky and Dean about it. |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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They are indeed. By God, you've obtained one of the greatest albums ever. |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Raf - I downloaded this album Friday, and listened to it a little. I have the same sort of quandary about where (at least this particular record) would be placed - despite the Canterbury's "who's who" on there - I can provide some more input next week when I listen to it more. The other two albums you got are also a win, although I will say I find The Civil Surface my least favorite of the Egg records. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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No it won't, I have a signed copy by Jakko Jakszyk himself. ![]() ![]() |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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Hmm, so you listened to The Bruised Romantic Glee Club straight away but haven't yet listened to The Unbelievable Truth? That's unbelievable! That needs sorting out, Patrick. ![]() ![]() Edited by James - May 31 2008 at 18:30 |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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Check the "What are you listening to?" thread, n00b. ![]() |
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VanderGraafKommandöh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
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I've been absent here the past few days so haven't noticed. Care to enlighten me?
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