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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 11:24

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 14:14
It's here and the package shows so much more promise than its predecessor....Tongue... Well... tonight I'll listen to it, tomorrow a couple of extra times and I'll also review it....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 14:19
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

It's here and the package shows so much more promise than its predecessor....Tongue... Well... tonight I'll listen to it, tomorrow a couple of extra times and I'll also review it....


Dun dun dun....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 15:39
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

It's here and the package shows so much more promise than its predecessor....Tongue... Well... tonight I'll listen to it, tomorrow a couple of extra times and I'll also review it....


You will like it more.  How much you'll like it is debatable, but you WILL like it more.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 16:01
Finally picked up BLD.  No surprises of course, since I have listened to the album several times on their website.  Glad to finally have it though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 14:08
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

It's here and the package shows so much more promise than its predecessor....Tongue... Well... tonight I'll listen to it, tomorrow a couple of extra times and I'll also review it....


What'd you think?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 14:42
Finally....
 
I'm ready to write the review... The only problem is the rating... I'm so lost...
 
It will NOT be like last one's rating... for sure....
 
But how extreme the difference will be I'm confused about.... The thing really left me with my head spinning around... It's not something that I would hear every day.. but I just can't deny the... well... I'll write my review....
 
The man is a weird genius, over-indulgent, pretensious, egocentric little genius.. but that's usually what makes for really good music... so I'm as confused as I have never been regarding a rating....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 14:52
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Finally....

I'm ready to write the review... The only problem is the rating... I'm so lost...


It will NOT be like last one's rating... for sure....


But how extreme the difference will be I'm confused about.... The thing really left me with my head spinning around... It's not something that I would hear every day.. but I just can't deny the... well... I'll write my review....


The man is a weird genius, over-indulgent, pretensious, egocentric little genius.. but that's usually what makes for really good music... so I'm as confused as I have never been regarding a rating....


The question is: do you like it?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 15:06
Yes.... but I have to give it an extra listen... 3 aren't enough I guess...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 15:26
Have you heard "Choirs of the Eye", T? Just out of curiosity, because it's also radically different than the other two. Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 17:16
Yeah, I think you would like Choirs best, Teo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 18:20
the beauty of Kayo Dot is that each album is essentially a re-invention/re-invision of the band.....no two albums sound identical, which is a curse that probably 90% of bands fall into.....putting out the same album over and over again.....so many bands do it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 18:45
After listening to it more, Blue Lambency Forward is disappointing compared to Dowsing Anemone.  It lacks continuity.  It sounds like Toby thought of a couple new ideas, wrote them out all separately and simply made a "collection of songs" rather than a cohesive work.  I really wish he could have implemented the RIO influences across the whole record instead of a few spots here and there.  Because the new ideas aren't expanded on throughout the album, it makes the entire thing feel choppy and, dare I say, almost lazily constructed.
 
Hopefully Kayo Dot #4 will be better. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 01:10
It flows nicely in my view...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 01:28
Yeah, this album is the most complete whole of any of their albums.  Quality-wise, it's the weakest, but it definitely feels like a single piece more than either of their others.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 07:38
Eh, I don't know.  There isn't any other instance in the album that sounds similar to The Awkward Wind Wheel, nor The Sow Submits.  The quirkiness of the middle of the album is out of place; it just makes the album feel really disorganized and unbalanced, despite the bookending tracks.
 
I think that they should have either made the individual tracks more diverse and included the discordant sound of The Awkward Wind Wheel within more of the tracks more often, or just completely left out tracks 4 and 5, because right now, the album feels like a hodgepodge.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 09:38
BLD flows very nicely, it builds song on song to those querky numbers The Sow Submits and The Awkward Windwheel before using The Useless Ladder to bring the album back down for Symmetrical Arizona (proving that the ladder isnt uselessWink). Qaulity wise I find it to be also a step above Dowsing Anamone with Copper tongue which had its flow broken badly by the repetative and boring __On Limpid Form and Amaranth the Peddlar.

I think BLD will be my album of the year.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 14:34
Compositionally, I think __ on Limpid Form and Amaranth the Peddler are among the best tracks on Dowsing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 15:08
Originally posted by mecca mecca wrote:

Compositionally, I think __ on Limpid Form and Amaranth the Peddler are among the best tracks on Dowsing.
 
Please explain one thing if you want: what is the "compositional" success of repeating the same EXACT thing for 14 minutes? There's no development of ideas, no changes of harmony, no changes of notes... actually, it's so literal  a repetition that I can't see the "compositional" magic of it... guitar riff, cymbal crash, riff, crash, riff crash... it's, for me, the lowest point in all of prog music, and even more when I see people praising it for "compositional" values... Hell, I know it's just music and everybody's right.... I guess i will die in confusion....
 
great thing that BLD is so SO much better than 2006's disaster... Hell, even I could understand if it's in for album of the year! Don't compare it with the two worst tracks in the history of music....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 15:58
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by mecca mecca wrote:

Compositionally, I think __ on Limpid Form and Amaranth the Peddler are among the best tracks on Dowsing.
 
Please explain one thing if you want: what is the "compositional" success of repeating the same EXACT thing for 14 minutes? There's no development of ideas, no changes of harmony, no changes of notes... actually, it's so literal  a repetition that I can't see the "compositional" magic of it... guitar riff, cymbal crash, riff, crash, riff crash... it's, for me, the lowest point in all of prog music, and even more when I see people praising it for "compositional" values... Hell, I know it's just music and everybody's right.... I guess i will die in confusion....
 
great thing that BLD is so SO much better than 2006's disaster... Hell, even I could understand if it's in for album of the year! Don't compare it with the two worst tracks in the history of music....

I think your taking it a bit far there Teo, but you've essentially hit the nail on the head for whats wrong with OLF, and ATP.

Thankfully they are the only two tracks they have recorded thats like that, and I cant see Mr Driver ever doing something like that (or anything wlse on KD album) again.

On a brighter note, Symmetrical Arizona is comeing up to be one of my favourit songs from them, just brilliant.
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