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Don't forget also hugely Hatfield influenced Japanese band Ain Soph.  Their three albums are not bad at all, especially the debut.
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Also just ordered:  Soft Heap and Henry Cow "In Praise of Learning".


Love that Henry Cow album -- I damned well love every Henry Cow album, but that one has  a special place in my heart. I've been returning to Henry Cow's Unrest today -- perfect for today's mood (I find it very good).

I don't have Soft Heap.  The average rating at the site of the studio album de-prioritised it a bit, but I should know better than to go by those.  What I've heard of Rogue Elements is very good, and I have heard some other stuff that I really do like.
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I really like Soft Heap, but then I've only heard it once, so I cannot really be reliable there, can I?

I'll give it some more spins soon.

I love all Henry Cow albums too.  I don't know which one I prefer yet.

Concerts is a must though.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:



Also, you maybe interested in this:


GOWEN, MILLER, SINCLAIR, TOMKINS - Before A Word Is Said, 1982 (Europa) [CD: Voiceprint'95]
Phil Miller (g) - Alan Gowen (kb) - Richard Sinclair (b/voc [1/7]) - Trevor Tomkins (d)
Rec: 25-27 Apr & 2-4 May 1981 - Loc: Alan Gowen's house, Tooting, London - Eng: Peter Ball - Pr: Jean-Pierre Weiller
Tracks: 1. Above & Below [PM] (7:41) - 2. Reflexes In The Margin [AG] (4:00) - 3. Nowadays A Silhouette [PM] (4:30) - 4. Silver Star [AG] (2:24) - 5. Fourfold [PM] (6:15) - 6. Before A Word Is Said [AG] (7:58) - 7. Umbrellas [RS] (3:54) - 8. A Fleeting Glance [PM] (7:33)




Forgot to add: this is amazing!  You'll really dig this album.  Alan Gowen is all over it like a rash, Phil Miller is on fire and so are the whole band in fact.  I wasn't expecting it to be this good!


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Originally posted by James James wrote:



Which reminds me, I still need to get The Civil Surface to go with Egg and The Polite Force, as well as Hatfield and the North's second collection of outtakes and stuff.

Which reminds me that I still want to look into Hatwise Choice, but it might be down on the list compared to getting bands for which I have no material.

By the way, does anyone have Egg's The Metronomic Society and if so, is it worth getting?

Another that I'm also interested in - haven't heard it, but I do it's available at egg-archive.com along with the Uriel/Arzachel record.

Patrick, good going with the Soft Heap!  I need to get Soft Head at some point, but it's not so cheap.

Also, you maybe interested in this:


GOWEN, MILLER, SINCLAIR, TOMKINS - Before A Word Is Said, 1982 (Europa) [CD: Voiceprint'95]
Phil Miller (g) - Alan Gowen (kb) - Richard Sinclair (b/voc [1/7]) - Trevor Tomkins (d)
Rec: 25-27 Apr & 2-4 May 1981 - Loc: Alan Gowen's house, Tooting, London - Eng: Peter Ball - Pr: Jean-Pierre Weiller
Tracks: 1. Above & Below [PM] (7:41) - 2. Reflexes In The Margin [AG] (4:00) - 3. Nowadays A Silhouette [PM] (4:30) - 4. Silver Star [AG] (2:24) - 5. Fourfold [PM] (6:15) - 6. Before A Word Is Said [AG] (7:58) - 7. Umbrellas [RS] (3:54) - 8. A Fleeting Glance [PM] (7:33)



It's on the now ludicrously long list.
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Also just ordered:  Soft Heap and Henry Cow "In Praise of Learning".


Love that Henry Cow album -- I damned well love every Henry Cow album, but that one has  a special place in my heart. I've been returning to Henry Cow's Unrest today -- perfect for today's mood (I find it very good).



I've been playing the first two HC records lately and they are both excellent - still a bit of trepidation moving forward though, as things get more "avant" - trying to find where my current threshold is.
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Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

By the way, Patrick, have you heard CEREBUS EFFECT?
Not Canterbury, but Dan Britton had this project sounding influenced by it. Acts of Deception, aside from being a great album, has some very cool touches of the said style, mingled with some heavier sides, making a sort of new sound for Canterbury if you will. Well worth looking into.


Thanks for the recommendation, Assaf.  Thumbs%20Up
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:


I've been playing the first two HC records lately and they are both excellent - still a bit of trepidation moving forward though, as things get more "avant" - trying to find where my current threshold is.
 
And rightly so, as it only gets crazier. Wink In Praise Of Learning is your next best bet, but you may even want to take some time to let the avant-ness of Unrest sink in so that you aren't put off by its darker and more experimental themes. Western Culture, however, would probably make you swear them off entirely at this point.
 
As James mentioned, Concerts is fantastic as well, especially the tracks where Robert Wyatt guests.
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Don't forget also hugely Hatfield influenced Japanese band Ain Soph.  Their three albums are not bad at all, especially the debut.
 
 
Their debut is a Jazz-Rock essential, and the Canterbury influences are prominent as well. I highly recommend it, although their 2nd album Hat & Field isn't bad either!
 
 
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Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Don't forget also hugely Hatfield influenced Japanese band Ain Soph.  Their three albums are not bad at all, especially the debut.
 
 
Their debut is a Jazz-Rock essential, and the Canterbury influences are prominent as well. I highly recommend it, although their 2nd album Hat & Field isn't bad either!
 


That's not putting too fine a point on their influence, isn't it?  LOL


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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 17:46
Well they also have an album called "Ride on a Camel". LOL

One of their tracks is also called Canterbury Tale.
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Originally posted by Chameleon Chameleon wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:


I've been playing the first two HC records lately and they are both excellent - still a bit of trepidation moving forward though, as things get more "avant" - trying to find where my current threshold is.
 
And rightly so, as it only gets crazier. Wink In Praise Of Learning is your next best bet, but you may even want to take some time to let the avant-ness of Unrest sink in so that you aren't put off by its darker and more experimental themes. Western Culture, however, would probably make you swear them off entirely at this point.
 
As James mentioned, Concerts is fantastic as well, especially the tracks where Robert Wyatt guests.


Concerts is great!  Western Culture can be a challenge, yeah.  If I wasn't in such a Hellebore mood since last night, I'd put that on now.  As to In Prasie,"War" as the first track is such a catchy track that that the album proved very easy to get into.  But "Beautiful as the Moon - Terrible as an Army..." is such a good song to my ears.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 18:53
I didn't like War initially, but loved the rest of the album.  Now I love War as well.

Ah yes, Hellebore!  Check out Tipoudek Limonade and Look de Bouk as well.
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Obligatory
 
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Originally posted by Chameleon Chameleon wrote:

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I've done it a few times here on PA. Love it everytimeTongue
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Dagmar Krause has an...interesting voice, to say the least.  Think I'm going to need a good amount of time trying to appreciate it.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 21:06
I prefer it to Lisa Herman's, that's for sure.  I love her German Lied style actually.  When you hear Concerts, you'll hear her sing alongside Robert Wyatt.

It's almost the most exciting thing to a man such as myself. LOL
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It might not be so much her voice, per se, as the silliness of the music I was listening to ("Desperate Straights") - to be honest, it was a little too absurd for my tastes.  But there was one non-silly track where I thought she sounded quite good...damn, can't remember the name of it. (edit:  found it, "Riding Tigers")


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Originally posted by James James wrote:

I prefer it to Lisa Herman's, that's for sure.  I love her German Lied style actually.  When you hear Concerts, you'll hear her sing alongside Robert Wyatt.

It's almost the most exciting thing to a man such as myself. LOL


Probably the opposite for me, I much prefer Lisa Herman's style.  Vive la difference and all that.
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I have the opposite with Kew. Rhone.  I felt the music and vocals (not the lyrics) were silly, whilst the music was spot on.

War is a wonderful track!

Definitely try News from Babel, the vocals are less silly.
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