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Points: 5898 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2008 at 13:38
Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

id look at getting bath/leaving your body map.


Ah, thanks. Smile

Quote they're hard to find but you should be able to scrounge them up somewhere. and if you find a place post it here because i would like to get my hands on an original. 


Don't worry, in this age of internet shopping I should be able to buy some of their stuff anyway. Albums by a band that's this famous among prog fans shouldn't be that hard to find anyway, I hope.Wink
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Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:

 
im sorry everyone, but 'Dark Suns' are really really poor, i mean, just not great stuff, i guess i cant speak on the grand scale, but ive had 'Exsistance' for a year or so now and its just not that great at all, not terrible now, but just pretty poor, drummer vocalists never work, plus he aint all the great a drummer
 
also, Oceansize, not  a fan, i got 'frames' a while back, tryed to listen to it a few times but just couldnt get into it, really didnt hit me as anything too proggy, except for they'er meshuggah thing of "sleeping dogs and dead lions", ill try give it a listen 2moro on the bus to college but im pretty sure i wont dig it
 
 
on the lighterside, i must say im loving *Shels, only have they'er album so far, but i like her...i even sent in a voice clip thing for they'er next album *crosses fingers* Embarrassed
 
if this topic concerns both experiemental AND post-metal, i must say i really dig the whole gritty low ass riff'ing in post metal, but really hate the steriotypical screamo/growling sh*tty vocals that normally acompany it
 
shels seem to get the balance right, and have more'so clean vocals(which i personly prefer) but other bands ive listend to in that section of progarchives just scare me off with they'er stale un-inspired same'ness
 
There are a couple of bands in Post Metal who are breaking the Neurosis/Isis/Pelican mold and putting there own spin on the genre.Check out:
 
Grayceon
The Pax Cecilia
Giant Squid
Irepress
Yakuza
 
There are some great bands in this genre,give them a chance and you will find some gems among all the imitators.


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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2008 at 16:57
And btw...Dark Suns "Grave Human Genuine" and Day Without Dawn's album "Understanding Consequences" are two of the best releases I have heard this year,regardless of genre.


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Just bought Devin Townsend's Ziltoid The Omniscient. Man, I love this guy, and I haven't been able to put this album down since I've gotten it.
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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

There are a couple of bands in Post Metal who are breaking the Neurosis/Isis/Pelican mold and putting there own spin on the genre.Check out:
 
Grayceon
The Pax Cecilia
Giant Squid
Irepress
Yakuza
 
There are some great bands in this genre,give them a chance and you will find some gems among all the imitators.


cool thanks man, ill check them out

i must say tho, i have one'a Isis's albums (cant recall name atm) and i really do enjoy the lush almost ambient sounds  they create but yea as i said i feel its almost ruined by the vox, altho ill admit it does work sometimes, just not all the time
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Points: 1697 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 04:28
^ YES! Hevy Devy struck gold with ziltoid. Its not my favorite devin townsend cd but it is growing fast. he took the best of both his solo output and strapping your lad and put out one monster of an album.
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Points: 5871 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 15 2008 at 05:49
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

And btw...Dark Suns "Grave Human Genuine" and Day Without Dawn's album "Understanding Consequences" are two of the best releases I have heard this year,regardless of genre.


Agr'd as for DWD, but I've NEVER heard DARK SUNS. I guess they're more Doom/Gothic-inspired Metal, than Post-Rocky one?
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Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

^ YES! Hevy Devy struck gold with ziltoid. Its not my favorite devin townsend cd but it is growing fast. he took the best of both his solo output and strapping your lad and put out one monster of an album.
"i am the greatest guitar player ever to have lived!"
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im a lil' hasty with Ziltiod, not the worst not the best, its got some real cool parts, except the fact that its almost made like a movie kinda makes re-listens slightly annoying,
 
it comes to a point where you've heard the lines so many times they start to get annoying, just like when you've watched an episode of some show or a movie way too many times and then see it again shortly after seeing it last, you know exactly whats commin next and it spoils the pleasure of it, however i think this only applys to the parts where its pure conversational dialog between ziltoid and the humans
 
 
may we also discuss the "Devlab" here?... oh my...devin, what were you thinking? i dont want to be hasty with saying its sh*t, cos i love devin so much, and i dont want to say something then a few years later regret it, but from the listens ive given it i really cant get around it, and its almost like a joke half the time....im gonna melt you guys...
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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

DAY WITHOUT DAWN is my fave release of the year so far!

I've gotta' go with Jody and Igor on this one (thanks for the "recommendation" IgorWinkClap). An excellent album and one of the best that I've heard this year.
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Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

And btw...Dark Suns "Grave Human Genuine" and Day Without Dawn's album "Understanding Consequences" are two of the best releases I have heard this year,regardless of genre.


Agr'd as for DWD, but I've NEVER heard DARK SUNS. I guess they're more Doom/Gothic-inspired Metal, than Post-Rocky one?


Dark Suns first album, Swanlike, is the closest I've heard anyband getting to imitate Opeth's sound, though without the acoustics guitar parts being so prominant (Infact, I think they're nearly none existent, though some very laid back clean guitar parts are regular), but its not just a copy, there's a definite sense of uiqness too it. I cant speak about their second album, Existenze, as I dont have it, but Grave Human Genuine (third album) is simply mind blowing. Very different with almost no growls left and completely unique, though I guess the Doom/Gothic inspired metal makes for a good loose description. Best album of the year for me form a band that is quite definitely progressing.
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Originally posted by keiser willhelm keiser willhelm wrote:

^ YES! Hevy Devy struck gold with ziltoid. Its not my favorite devin townsend cd but it is growing fast. he took the best of both his solo output and strapping your lad and put out one monster of an album.
"i am the greatest guitar player ever to have lived!"
genius.


"Now, being hailed as the ultimate 4th dimensional guitar hero, Ziltoid feels confident in his complete victory.

But, Captain Spectacular has seen through Ziltoid’s façade and now sets out to expose Ziltoid for what he really is…a nerd.
A nerd…"

Hahaha, I love this album. I think Terria is my favorite of his so far though.
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^ mine too. one of my top albums of all time. 
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terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)

so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to it


i still havent got Hummer, can anyone hear gimme' any thoughts on it? i hear its kinda like devlab except more  real instrument'ly ambient
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Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:


terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)

so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to it


What about Infinity?
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Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:


Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

DAY WITHOUT DAWN is my fave release of the year so far!
I've gotta' go with Jody and Igor on this one (thanks for the "recommendation" IgorWinkClap). An excellent album and one of the best that I've heard this year.


Indeed! "The Undertide" is simply amazing.

I guess I need to get some DARK SUNS. Out local store has both "Swanlike" and "Existence", I'll check them out
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:


terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)

so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to it


What about Infinity?
 
do you mean, your wondering if Infinity comes closer to terria?
 
no chance man, infinity is way more up-beat metal'ish, there isnt as much kinda lush ambiance in it alike terria, the only tracks that come close to it are unity and dynamics
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Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:


terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)

so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to it


i still havent got Hummer, can anyone hear gimme' any thoughts on it? i hear its kinda like devlab except more  real instrument'ly ambient
 
Hummer is boring,music to go to sleep by.
 
But I am not a big fan of ambient music anyway.


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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:

terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to iti still havent got Hummer, can anyone hear gimme' any thoughts on it? i hear its kinda like devlab except more  real instrument'ly ambient

 

Hummer is boring,music to go to sleep by.

 

But I am not a big fan of ambient music anyway.


I second that...Hummer is a waste of cash.

Just adding some input on Dark Suns...I found 'Swanlike' to be a criminally underrated album of the bunch. It was a classic along with the next two, although I haven't given the new one much of a listen.

Fans of Dark Suns might want to check out Disillusion?

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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by TR!P TR!P wrote:


terria is an absolute gem of music, defo one'a the top albums of all time (for me atleast)

so far from what ive heard, Biomech is the only other album thats come close to it


i still havent got Hummer, can anyone hear gimme' any thoughts on it? i hear its kinda like devlab except more  real instrument'ly ambient
 
Hummer is boring,music to go to sleep by.
 
But I am not a big fan of ambient music anyway.


So it says in the news section on his website: "Calm & peaceful noises to fall asleep to. Not for everyone".LOL
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I'd like to reserect this thread with a recommendtion for Drawns A New World? An excellent album in the vein of In the Woods, not surprising being and offshoot, and might appeal to thos ethat didnt particuarly like the vocals of In the Woods.

Plus, I've just doen a review of Dark Suns Grave Human Genuine.
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=173039
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