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Dim 
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Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
 Posted: April 06 2008 at 14:03 |
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Sorry, when I first read the title I only saw experimental, mah bad.
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jme
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Joined: April 09 2008 Location: franklin, nc Status: Offline Points: 56 |
Posted: April 09 2008 at 11:08 |
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would bands like BEHOLD THE ARCTOPUS and CO-CONSPIRATOR count as experimental metal?
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"gravity: it's what's for dinner!"
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: April 09 2008 at 12:21 |
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I consider bands like Behold...the Arctopus,Dysrhythmia,Continuo Renacer and the like Technical Prog Metal,not Experimental.
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Avantgardehead
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Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
Posted: April 09 2008 at 16:35 |
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Yay for Subterranean Masquerade!
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http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian
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keiser willhelm
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Joined: September 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1697 |
Posted: April 09 2008 at 17:20 |
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There are some really cool bands here, anything touched by the hands of toby driver being my favorite (kayo dot, maudlin of the well), but i am also a big fan of Devin Townsend (almost here because you cant really put him anywhere else),*Shels (a mix of wonderful melodies, small doses of post, post metal, and godliness) and The Pax Cecilia which remains my favorite release from '07 and my favorite FREE release of all time.
 one of my favorite subsubgenres of progressive music. |
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: April 12 2008 at 14:28 |
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If you appreciate Toby Driver's genius you should check out his Tartar Lamb project.It's basically a duo consisting of him and Mia Matsumiya of Kayo Dot.
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Dim
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Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Posted: April 12 2008 at 14:56 |
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Tartar lamb is indeed delicious! It's hard to imagine someone, even Driver writing all sixty minuetes of sixty menotomies on sheet music.
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keiser willhelm
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Joined: September 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1697 |
Posted: April 12 2008 at 17:51 |
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Ill have to check it out. I had 95% of all tarter lambs stuff downloaded over x-mas break and then the link broke. very upsetting. are they pretty easy to find?
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Apsalar
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Joined: June 06 2006 Location: gansu Status: Offline Points: 2888 |
Posted: April 12 2008 at 18:04 |
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Being the long time Dead Raven Choir fan I am, it was a pleasure to finally have Godheadscope's latest album turn up at my door step.
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Toaster Mantis
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Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
Posted: April 13 2008 at 04:12 |
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I probably look like a party-pooper by saying this, but the metal bands who try the hardest to look intelligent are paradoxically also those that come across as the silliest.
Just like metal isn't a genre that's well-suited to explicit humour, it's not well-suited for a self-consciously artsy approach either... there's very few metal bands that can pull those off in a way that doesn't make it look like they're bending over backwards to impress people who don't take metal seriously in the first place. A good contrast of how to do "experi-metal" right and wrong, listen to Black Sabbath's late-1970s albums. On Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage the experimentation works, on Technical Ecstasy most of the songs aren't really metal but there's only three serious misfires (the boring ballads and Rock'n'Roll Doctor)... and then there's Never Say Die which except for the first two songs is a total and utter mess. Edited by Toaster Mantis - April 13 2008 at 04:12 |
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sleeper
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Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: April 13 2008 at 09:54 |
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Your right, you are coming across as a party-pooper, and moe than that, your second paragraph is wrong. Metal is an extremely diverse genre of music and can be made to fit almost any approach, its most certainly not all about being loud and brash, otherwise it would be pretty useless after 30 years. I'm not saying that there arent bands that match your description, but I suggest you give a number of the bands being talked about here a good listen first. |
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Toaster Mantis
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Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
Posted: April 13 2008 at 10:23 |
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Guess I just have enough bad experiences with "experi-metal" to become too curmudgeonish for my own good.
I have been hearing good things about Nadja and Behold the Arctopus from people I trust, though, so I might give them a try. |
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keiser willhelm
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Joined: September 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1697 |
Posted: April 13 2008 at 12:28 |
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^ maudlin of the well seem to be universally well recieved, i'd at least give them a try.
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Toaster Mantis
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Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
Posted: April 13 2008 at 14:13 |
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Every time I hear about Maudlin Of The Well I think of the Maudling brothers from Bal-Sagoth. Of course, I'm not expecting MotW to sound anything like Bal-Sagoth really other than both bands being metal.
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: April 13 2008 at 20:23 |
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MotW is NOTHING like Bal-Sagoth and their music,while bearing a definite metal influence,is such a conglomeration of different styles that pinning them down to one single genre is darn near impossible.
Toby Driver is an avant garde genius,and you should really check out his impressive body of work.
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Toaster Mantis
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Joined: April 12 2008 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 5898 |
Posted: April 14 2008 at 02:39 |
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Which of MotW's albums should I start with?
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keiser willhelm
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Joined: September 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1697 |
Posted: April 14 2008 at 03:15 |
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id look at getting bath/leaving your body map. they're hard to find but you should be able to scrounge them up somewhere. and if you find a place post it here because i would like to get my hands on an original.
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keiser willhelm
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Joined: September 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1697 |
Posted: April 14 2008 at 03:16 |
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Ulver's blood inside is metalish in many respects and has just gained a huge amount of listens today. i think im in love
 
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keiser willhelm
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Joined: September 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1697 |
Posted: April 14 2008 at 03:28 |
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BTW - i saw this while checkin out ulver albums, does anyone know what this is or where i can get it?
 http://www.jester-records.com/images/bi-vinyl-rs.jpg Edited by keiser willhelm - April 14 2008 at 03:28 |
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TR!P
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Joined: December 21 2006 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 69 |
Posted: April 14 2008 at 13:29 |
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im sorry everyone, but 'Dark Suns' are really really poor, i mean, just not great stuff, i guess i cant speak on the grand scale, but ive had 'Exsistance' for a year or so now and its just not that great at all, not terrible now, but just pretty poor, drummer vocalists never work, plus he aint all the great a drummer
also, Oceansize, not a fan, i got 'frames' a while back, tryed to listen to it a few times but just couldnt get into it, really didnt hit me as anything too proggy, except for they'er meshuggah thing of "sleeping dogs and dead lions", ill try give it a listen 2moro on the bus to college but im pretty sure i wont dig it
on the lighterside, i must say im loving *Shels, only have they'er album so far, but i like her...i even sent in a voice clip thing for they'er next album *crosses fingers*
 if this topic concerns both experiemental AND post-metal, i must say i really dig the whole gritty low ass riff'ing in post metal, but really hate the steriotypical screamo/growling sh*tty vocals that normally acompany it
shels seem to get the balance right, and have more'so clean vocals(which i personly prefer) but other bands ive listend to in that section of progarchives just scare me off with they'er stale un-inspired same'ness Edited by TR!P - April 14 2008 at 13:30 |
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