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Salvo_
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Posted: March 15 2008 at 23:32 |
...The comics are a joke. I agree with it, but it's not evidence and I'm not claiming it is. The evidence is in the other links that are not from Maddox or The Onion.
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SpaceMonkey
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 00:37 |
So riddle me this. Do you have complete faith in your government to the point you don't have to question their doings? I want to assume you're from the US.
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Salvo_
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 00:48 |
No, of course not. But that is irrelevant to the fact that 9/11 conspiracies are baseless speculation that is refuted by actual evidence.
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SpaceMonkey
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 00:59 |
So what did happen to the towers? A plane hit them, obviously enough. But why did they fall? And I don't want to hear anything about the 911 Comissions Report because that's a very flakey document.
Edited by SpaceMonkey - March 16 2008 at 01:00
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1800iareyay
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 01:12 |
SpaceMonkey wrote:
So what did happen to the towers? A plane hit them, obviously enough. But why did they fall? |
SpaceMonkey wrote:
A plane hit them |
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SpaceMonkey
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 01:17 |
Not exactly what I was hoping for, but I did leave myself open for that.
Edited by SpaceMonkey - March 16 2008 at 01:18
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Salvo_
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 01:22 |
SpaceMonkey wrote:
So what did happen to the towers? A plane hit them, obviously enough. But why did they fall? |
Because a plane hit them. This is extremely simple, really.
SpaceMonkey wrote:
And I don't want to hear anything about the 911 Comissions Report because that's a very flakey document. |
As opposed to your absolutely ironclad internet documentary.
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SpaceMonkey
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 01:30 |
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Salvo_
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 01:38 |
Seriously? Awesome.
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SpaceMonkey
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 01:40 |
Wanna go out and get something to eat?
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Salvo_
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 19:27 |
Nah, I'm not hungry. Man I wish all my other discussions were this easy to resolve. ;-)
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Proletariat
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 19:48 |
I don't need a movie for me to know that religion is bull and honestly who cares if 9/11 was a conspericy, I don't like terrorists or our government either way
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 22:42 |
VERY interesting (about 30 minutes in now). I'd like to fact-check some of the congruences between religions myself, though. RE: conspiracies.... While its silly to believe stuff a random movie that could be posted by anyone or a sensationalist program on the History channel, it would be equally silly to believe that with all the world powers now being able to meet so easily and with our world becoming truly globally connected, that there are not at least some secret orders or plans going on behind closed doors. Not to say it's anything already stated, but there's probably something going on.
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Scourge441
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 23:06 |
stonebeard wrote:
VERY interesting (about 30 minutes in now). I'd like to fact-check some of the congruences between religions myself, though. |
People have. Search Youtube for Zeitgeist Rebuttal, you'll find loads of stuff about the religion stuff. Basically, just because there are similarities between two religions doesn't mean one stole from the other.
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 16 2008 at 23:38 |
^ Yeah, I was thinking along those lines.
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SpaceMonkey
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Posted: March 17 2008 at 06:26 |
Proletariat wrote:
I don't need a movie for me to know that religion is bull and honestly who cares if 9/11 was a conspericy, I don't like terrorists or our government either way |
Yeah, but ever since the attacks look at how much of our privacy can be tapped into now. For an example, look at the PATRIOT Act.
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Sacred 22
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Posted: March 19 2008 at 21:17 |
SpaceMonkey wrote:
I can only imagine the amount of material there is when it comes to the subject of conspiracies within a government. But I happen to stumble over this one from a room mate of mine. He had an excerpt of the full video and just the small portion determined me to search out the full video, which took 2 seconds. After watching the video I was blown away at how much of my own beliefs were covered and reinforced within the video. The movie is divided into three parts. Part 1 - touches on religion, Part 2 - deals with the major events that brought the US into the great wars of WW1, WW2, Vietnam, and this one. And Part 3 - gets pretty insane with how the federal reserve is controlling the world. I'll believe all of the material, along with discovering all of the other sources to back up the info, until disproven otherwise.
Well, has anyone else put the time (roughly 2 hours) into this particular movie? It is definitely a worth while watch. Or any other past materials out there that blew you away when watching for the first time, that brought you into the the conspiracy world? |
The movie is very good at pointing out the Elite power structure of the world and it is very real. As to 9/11, well that is old news, anyone who still thinks that a bunch of guys in a cave pulled that off are simply naive. Or put another way, buildings don't commit suicide, ha ha ha ha
If you care to do your homework and spend the time to do the research you will soon discover that this world has been run by a small group of people for an awful long time. For many it is simply too difficult for them to get their heads around such concepts. To me it rather obvious as to what is going on.
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Salvo_
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Posted: March 19 2008 at 22:12 |
Sacred 22 wrote:
The movie is very good at pointing out the Elite power structure of the world and it is very real. As to 9/11, well that is old news, anyone who still thinks that a bunch of guys in a cave pulled that off are simply naive. Or put another way, buildings don't commit suicide, ha ha ha ha
If you care to do your homework and spend the time to do the research you will soon discover that this world has been run by a small group of people for an awful long time. For many it is simply too difficult for them to get their heads around such concepts. To me it rather obvious as to what is going on. |
Sigh...And I suppose all the links I gave, written by actual scientists instead of people with too much free time, do nothing for you?
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Sacred 22
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Posted: March 19 2008 at 22:55 |
Salvo_ wrote:
Sacred 22 wrote:
The movie is very good at pointing out the Elite power structure of the world and it is very real. As to 9/11, well that is old news, anyone who still thinks that a bunch of guys in a cave pulled that off are simply naive. Or put another way, buildings don't commit suicide, ha ha ha ha
If you care to do your homework and spend the time to do the research you will soon discover that this world has been run by a small group of people for an awful long time. For many it is simply too difficult for them to get their heads around such concepts. To me it rather obvious as to what is going on. |
Sigh...And I suppose all the links I gave, written by actual scientists instead of people with too much free time, do nothing for you? |
No sorry, not a thing. To me it is so obvious as to be joke. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I knew the day it happened that it was a inside job pulled off by the Military Industrial Complex. The reasons are painfully obvious to me, but I'm not about to get into it with you because if you can't see it,.....well I'm not about to try and convince you otherwise.
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SpaceMonkey
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Posted: March 19 2008 at 22:55 |
^ Can we have a discussion with our "radical ideas" without anyone bashing the whole subject. You don't have to come to the thread. Plus we've already seen your cartoons.
Edited by SpaceMonkey - March 19 2008 at 22:56
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