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    Posted: March 07 2008 at 15:16
On the front page of PA there is a link for buying prog at mp3.ru.
 
This site is ILLEGAL and their claims to pay the artists royalties are LIES.  This site is completely and utterly fraudulant and taking money from kids here at PA on false pretences.
 
PLEASE CAN WE REMOVE THIS LINK ASAP?????
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2008 at 15:25
already discussed in the Collaborators Lounge, don't worry. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2008 at 15:35
Thanks Ricochet.............. but it really IS a worry!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2008 at 15:42
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

already discussed in the Collaborators Lounge, don't worry. Smile


Where? Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2008 at 15:59
I'll refer your comments to M@x PC.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 07 2008 at 16:18
Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

already discussed in the Collaborators Lounge, don't worry. Smile


Where? Confused


oops, I think it's discussed in the Special Collaborators lounge. WinkEmbarrassed

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2008 at 17:08
Link now removed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2008 at 17:14
Hooray!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 08 2008 at 17:19
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2008 at 06:04
^ it's still in the Topic Reply Notification emails Disapprove
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2008 at 11:09
I guess that's because the topics in the forum relating to it are still here. The promotional link is gone though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2008 at 15:04
I am still shocked, saddened, disapointed that it was there in the first place, I feel let down, I really do.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 09 2008 at 16:03
Just take it as a genuine oversight/mistake Rachel.
 
Credit where it's due to M@x for removing it when the true nature of the site was made clear to him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 10:19
There should be no downloading period. Why can`t people go out and buy things anymore. Everyone is looking for a free ride that`s why this stupid economic crisis is upon us. Keep On Downloadin`!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 11:04
Nothing wrong with legal downloading. It's all very well telling people to go out and buy things but prog fans will know that it's impossible to get CDs by a lot of the bands on PA from local shops. I went into a branch of HMV at the weekend and they had removed a whole aisle of CDs and replaced them with games.
Yes, you can buy them from Amazon etc but you still have to wait for them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 11:25
It's a good point Chopper. Some of us older ones tend to think downloading = illegal downloading. These days, it is the preferred method of purchase for many people.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 11:54
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Nothing wrong with legal downloading. It's all very well telling people to go out and buy things but prog fans will know that it's impossible to get CDs by a lot of the bands on PA from local shops. I went into a branch of HMV at the weekend and they had removed a whole aisle of CDs and replaced them with games.
Yes, you can buy them from Amazon etc but you still have to wait for them.


Download them from emusic.com ... it's much cheaper than buying the CDs, and totally legit. I have a 100 tracks/month subscription - so for the price of two CDs I can download 10 albums from emusic. I still purchase many CDs (and LPs, for that matter) - using downloads *additionally* helps me to expand my collection a little bit faster.Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 12:37
I love it when bands & labels that allow legal downloads. Itunes is still too pricey compared to CDs, and I eagerly await the inevitable subscription model that they are said to be pushing for with the labels.
But Emusic's choices are limited. I checked out a few acts that I would be interested in and frankly, for example, seeing the only Thin Lizzy album offered is a Live from 1975 gives me the idea that you're not getting the cream of the crop too often.
Sudden Death records, a punk site, gives you great deals on their bands. I bought DOA's latest for 7.54CAD. That's 14 songs. Marillion's Happiness on the Road is another that I downloaded directly, and paid them $5.42 CAD.
I'd love to be able to go online and pay reasonable prices for many bands, with the  expectation that 99% of the price is not going to a record label or middleman. I understand that download sites do costs the bands, but they can't be anywhere as costly as the label/distributor/etc system. It pisses me off knowing that the artist gets little from a $20 list price.
I'll buy albums new from the smaller acts like King's X, Los Lobos, Steve Earle and others, 'cause I know the sales finance the next album. But after that, I search out the second hand shops.
I've said this before, and I know this might be a big leap for the site; but there must be a way to work with small labels to make available for download through PA all those RPI treasures, the Krautrock releases, and many more that just aren't going to be easily found in your local record store. And I for one, don't feel content with having an album shipped and delivered two weeks or more later. I want it now.
Imagine Maneige moving a few thousand of their albums. Or Osannah getting even a few hundred sales.
Prog could lead the way in providing its' fans with easy access to the treasure trove of a storied past, and also help newer bands with an easier way to get their music out to the masses.
Once the infrastructure is in place, the rights holder can negoatiate with PA, and add it to the base.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:26
Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

I love it when bands & labels that allow legal downloads. Itunes is still too pricey compared to CDs, and I eagerly await the inevitable subscription model that they are said to be pushing for with the labels.
But Emusic's choices are limited. I checked out a few acts that I would be interested in and frankly, for example, seeing the only Thin Lizzy album offered is a Live from 1975 gives me the idea that you're not getting the cream of the crop too often.



http://progfreak.com/home/charts.xhtml?chart.source=emusic

Just a small selection (the top rated tags at PF which are available at emusic.com, one of the little note symbols next to the album name will link to the album page @ emusic).

Of course emusic.com isn't usually the place where you find mainstream music ... sometimes - as it's the case with Thin Lizzy - some "B-albums" are available there. But you'll find many key albums of prog rock/metal there, and a lot of alternative artists which are related to prog (post-rock, experimental/avant-garde). They have an extensive list of interesting classical music and jazz, for example in the last few weeks the entire discography of John Coltrane was added.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:49
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Nothing wrong with legal downloading. It's all very well telling people to go out and buy things but prog fans will know that it's impossible to get CDs by a lot of the bands on PA from local shops. I went into a branch of HMV at the weekend and they had removed a whole aisle of CDs and replaced them with games.
Yes, you can buy them from Amazon etc but you still have to wait for them.


Download them from emusic.com ... it's much cheaper than buying the CDs, and totally legit. I have a 100 tracks/month subscription - so for the price of two CDs I can download 10 albums from emusic. I still purchase many CDs (and LPs, for that matter) - using downloads *additionally* helps me to expand my collection a little bit faster.Big%20smile
 
I do exactly the same Mike. I know downloading is not to everyones tastes but it sure is a great way to track down new bands on the scene. They make it very easy too with their remote. They also have a huge catalogue of top prog artists from the likes of Inside Out, Prog Rock and so on.
 
This is not the place to discuss this further but a referral gets both 50 free downloads at the moment to try it out. That's probably 4 albums to add to your collection! Big%20smile
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