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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: December 12 2007 at 13:51 | ||||||
Today I received this interesting new CD by Medina
Azahara entitled Se Abre La Puerta:
It contains 11 songs, written by Triana, Alameda and Medina Azahara, I am
looking forward to listen to it and will write a review in this thread very soon
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: December 13 2007 at 10:38 | ||||||
Here's my weekly contribution to this wonderful thread :
MEDINA AZAHARA — Se Abre La Puerta Review by erik neuteboom (erik neuteboom) Special Collaborator Symphonic Prog Expert — First review of this album —THIS IS A VERY WARM AND TASTEFULLY ARRANGED TRIBUTE TO TRIANA, THE MASTERS OF THE PROG ANDALUZ When Triana their keyboarplayer/singer Jesus De La Rosa died because of a car accident in 1983, Medina Azahara were generally considered as the succesors of Triana, the masters of the Prog Andaluz movement. During concerts Medina Azahara already played some Triana covers and on this CD compilation you can enjoy Medina Azahara performing seven Triana covers along one Cai cover and 3 own compositions, all firmly rooted in the Prog Andaluz tradition. In fact Medina Azahara is a Heavy Prog version of the more symphonic prog of Triana featuring a powerful and tight rhythm- section, heavy guitar work (lots of fiery solos and propulsive guitar riffs) and an excellent singer who turns out to be a perfect blend of the traditional flamenco singer and the archetypical rock singer, what an emotion and what a power! The seven Triana covers are very pleasant coloured: warm flamenco guitar, heavy guitar riffs, bombastic organ and a flashy synthesizer solo in Abre La Puerta, tender piano and sensitive electric guitar in Una Noche De Amor, great melancholical vocals, wonderful keyboard layers and howling guitar in Hijos Del Agobio, a very compelling atmosphere in Dialogo, Paco De lucia inspired flamenco guitar, lush organ and biting electric guitar in Luminosa Manana, a jazzy piano intro and powerful Hammond organ waves in Tu Frialdad and lots of surprising musical ideas in El Lago, from roaring Hammond organ and 'slap bass' to even rap singing, very original! The version of Cai their composition Amanecer En El Puerto sounds dynamic with beautiful vocals and the three Medina Azahara tracks Hacia Ti (dynamic ballad), Paseando Por La Mezquita (the ultimate blend of flamenco and hardrock) and El Soldado (swirling Hammond organ solo) showcase their pleasant, melodic and harder-edged Prog Andaluz sound, they are very popular in Spain but they deserve wider attention, what a captivating music! This tribute-CD is a very good introduction to the sound of Medina Azahara! Edited by erik neuteboom - December 13 2007 at 10:49 |
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: December 14 2007 at 17:31 | ||||||
Very interesting compilation of songs, Erik. Thanks for the review.
I hope to cast my prog andaluz reviews these days before Christmas...
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: December 15 2007 at 05:11 | ||||||
Hello Andrea.
I just read on the homepage that you succeeded to escape from your study books
Good to have you here on this thread and I am looking forward to your Prog Andaluz reviews, you mean before Christmas 2007 ?
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: December 15 2007 at 07:54 | ||||||
2007. I promise!
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: December 15 2007 at 19:15 | ||||||
OK Andrea, it's a deal
By the way, Senogul and Medina Azahara are in my 2007
Prog Album Top 5 list, a healthy dosis of Prog Andaluz
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: December 17 2007 at 17:35 | ||||||
This evening I noticed a Prog Andaluz review
MEDINA AZAHARA — En Al-Hakim Review by Andrea Cortese (Andrea Cortese) Special Collaborator Italian Prog Specialist En... Al Hakim is the first “real” prog andaluz album I've bought (Carmen come not from Spain). I have to say that the album doesn't follow my expectations. But I'm happy for this. A small edit in your review by me, Andrea |
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: December 17 2007 at 17:47 | ||||||
Yeah, noticed what you mean, ERIK! I thought your name appeared in my review...what's happened?
Well, I think the only problem with En Al Hakim (but the word problem is wrong) is that it was released in 1989 with that kind of inndtrumentation and echo on drums (echo or something to describe that typical effect that seem to deprove drums of their genuinity.
Despite that, the album is truly excellent.
On about Triana, I have to say that the first two (that I own) are terrific. The second is different and shows a different, more pessimistic, approach...I wonder why of that change of feeling...
BTW, I'm waiting for my copy of Escenes by the spanish band Gotic. Not prog andaluz but good old sympho-prog. What do you think of, Erik? Edited by Andrea Cortese - December 17 2007 at 17:48 |
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: December 17 2007 at 17:58 | ||||||
I enjoyed reading your review, very good analysis but knowing you I was a bit surprised to read that you only wrote "thanks for the recommendation" because it's obvious where it came from I am very glad that you like Triana so much because it's unique, very compelling music, an unsurpassed blend of prog and ethnic music, PROG ANDALUZ!!! The album Escenes by Gothic is a wonderful, Camel inspired album, one of the few Spanish prog albums that is obviously rooted into the Seventies UK symphonic prog tradition. Multo grazie for your Medina Azahara review and your post Andrea, I am looking forward to more Prog Andaluz reviews, here on Prog Archives this category seems almost forgotten! |
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memowakeman
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Posted: December 17 2007 at 22:55 | ||||||
Strange enough, that i have never been interested in Medina Azahara`s music, though a friend likes their music and i have seen several albums of them in a real cheap price, now that you both are dedicating your time to them, i am sure i have lost the chances of appreciate nice music, if i found an album by them, i will buy it and let you know what i think
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: December 18 2007 at 00:58 | ||||||
erik neuteboom
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Posted: December 18 2007 at 06:35 | ||||||
Well Memowakeman and Andrea, a good impression of the earlier sound of Medina Azahara is their live CD entitled En Vivo (originally a double LP), it sounds very tasteful with some wonderful Prog Andaluz undertones but also a harder-edged approach, in fact Medina Azahara was a heavier version of Triana but with less Prog Andaluz elements. Nonetheless, I love their sound, so emotional and pleasantly coloured
By the way, I just noticed that my review from their debut album has disappeared from this site, I can only find this review:
This is the most popular Spanish rock band in the post-TRIANA era. In 1990 they released the double-LP “En Vivo”, on this live recording the band succeeded to capture the great live atmosphere and it contains all their best work. MEDIANA AZAHARA delivers on my 1- CD release version “En Vivo” (running time almost 75 minutes) a powerful blend of rock and ‘heavy progressive’. The keyboards from Pablo Rabadan have obvious hints from Mark Kelly (synthesizer flights), Manual Martinez his vocals sound inspired and emotional and the rhythm-section Randy Lopez on bass and Manuel Reyes on drums is strong and tight (sometimes too). But the focus is on Francisco Ventura’s varied and powerful guita rplay, he gives the tasteful arranged compositions a special flavour with his harder-edged but sensitive play, like Ritchie BLACKMORE meets Carlos SANTANA! Discover this top notch Spanish prog rock band: from the catchy “Velocidad”, the beautiful ballad “Otono”, the stage favourites “Amiga”, “Se” and “Hacia Ti” to the highlight “Paseando Por La Mezquita” (compelling Morish undertone and moving crowd participation, goose bumps!) and the up- tempo rock version from “El Lago”, a legendary track from TRIANA’s eponymous debut- album. Edited by erik neuteboom - December 18 2007 at 06:35 |
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sean
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 02 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1155 |
Posted: December 18 2007 at 13:40 | ||||||
thanks for bringing this whole subject up. i've always been interested in spanish flamenco guitar, but never knew that anyone fused it with prog. i will look into these very soon. they all sound great. i wish i had more money.
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: December 18 2007 at 14:21 | ||||||
Thanks for your post Sean, good to see 'a new face' here in this thread Do you play a little bit flamenco guitar (like I do)? About the money, I often get compliments for my recommendations but on the other hand they hate me because indirect I am responsible for plundering their wallets ! By the way, this doesn't mean I am fed up with the Andrea's and Guillermo's !
This evening I will write a review about Medina Azahara
their first album, one of my favorites.
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sean
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Posted: December 19 2007 at 14:13 | ||||||
No, I'm a pianist with no talent at guitar, it's just that the sound of classical and flamenco guitars has always enchanted me, since before I had discovered rock music.
And no, I won't get mad at you for encouraging me to spend more money that I don't have, if I did that I'd have to get mad at everyone on this site who's ever made mention of a good band and inspired me to check them out.
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: December 19 2007 at 14:54 | ||||||
Sean, since I heard Paco De Lucia playing Entre Dos Aguas (a hit single in Spain) I love flamenco and since my 15th I have visited many flamenco concerts, also because in my hometown The Hague the National Dutch Flamenco Society had her residence. I have seen many famous singers, dancers and guitarists. In the second part of the Seventies I discovered Triana, we had a small group of progrock diehards and we visited a person who was known as the Dutch proghead #1, he owned the first 3 Triana albums, I still remember that I listened for the first time to their sound and I got goose bumps all over my body, even on the back of my feet, I was absolutely thrilled and blown away. I was delighted that he put the albums on tape for me, that was my first Prog Andaluz, later I bought albums from Carmen and then Cai, Azahar, Mezquita, Alameda and finally Medina Azahara. To witness the special Andalusian atmosphere I took a plane to Andalusia (Southern part of Spain) and visited the wonderful flamenco drenched cities Sevilla, Granada, Cordoba and Ronda, an unforgettable experience
Yesterday I published this review on the homepage:
MEDINA AZAHARA – Paseando Por La Mezquita This popular Spanish band from Cordoba was founded in the late Seventies. In 1979 Medina Azahara released their debut-album Paseando Por La Mezquita (aka Medina Azahara). This album earned a double-platinum status and since 1983 when Spanish legend Triana called it a day (because of the tragical death of their keyboardplayer/singer Jesus De La Rosa) the Spanish fans consider Medina Azahara as the successors of Triana, the masters of the Prog Andaluz movement. On their debut album Medina Azahara delivers a very pleasant blend of melodic rock (mid-tempo songs like En La Manana and Se), neo prog in the vein of Marillion (lots of Mark Kelly-like synthesizer flights) and Prog Andaluz (mainly ballads and slow rhythms) with strong hints from Triana like in the exciting titletrack (a flamenco rhythm with heavy guitar riffs, howling guitar and emotional vocals) and En La Manana and Busco (parts with flamenco guitar). A very strong point on this album is the guitarwork, from sensitive and howling to electric rhythm guitar that creates a flamenco atmosphere, this matches perfectly with the emotional Spanish vocals that contain a wailing undertone you can often hear in flamenco singing. Medina Azahara still makes music (in 2003 they released their latest studio album entitled Aixa) but during the years the sound became more polished and straighforward rock so I consider this band as a heavy version of Triana, not every album is interesting but they have made some very good records like En El-Hakim and En Vivo (live), especially their early work is worth to check out. Edited by erik neuteboom - December 19 2007 at 14:55 |
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sean
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Posted: December 20 2007 at 13:21 | ||||||
I just listened to Triana, and I look forward to digging deeper into this scene. Unfortunately, being in America, I have less access to places like Spain, and I have yet to see a flamenco concert, though I would love to.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: December 20 2007 at 14:21 | ||||||
What's your impression about Triana, Sean? A flamenco concert is a very special happening, especially when there is that spark between the band and the audience ('duende')
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sean
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Posted: December 21 2007 at 16:51 | ||||||
I really enjoyed Triana. It was completely new to me, so I had no idea what to expect, but I came away very impressed. I'll have to listen several more times of course to get a better idea.
I look forward to seeing a flamenco concert in the future, especially after hearing all these good things about them.
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: December 21 2007 at 17:06 | ||||||
That's very good news Sean, I am very happy to notice that you are so delighted about Triana because when I started to write for Prog Archives in early 2004, one of my missions was to ask attention for bands like Solaris, Museo Rosenbach, Rustichelli & Bordini, Los Jaivas and ... the Prog Andaluz, speerheaded by Triana Do you want some recommendations about Prog Andaluz? Flamenco passion:
My hero Paco De Lucia
Edited by erik neuteboom - December 21 2007 at 17:07 |
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