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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 08:18 |
aapatsos wrote:
^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!
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No, Asbestos, I disagree!
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aapatsos
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 08:39 |
Snow Dog wrote:
aapatsos wrote:
^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!
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No, Asbestos, I disagree!
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Trickster F.
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 11:04 |
In my opinion, NWOBHM is as much a genre as Classic Rock. It is associated with a certain sound and, more importantly, era that, for example, just like groups who copy The Beatles nowadays aren't called Classic Rock because they make music now, not in the 60/70's; so groups who do music in the style of Iron Maiden and early Judas Priest are now called Traditional/Heavy/Speed/whatever instead of NWOBHM since the "new wave" got old.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 11:08 |
Classic Rock is a Genre?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 11:40 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Classic Rock is a Genre? |
gen·re (zhänr)
n.
1. A type or class: "Emaciated famine victims ... on television focused a new genre of attention on the continent" Helen Kitchen.
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a. A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, marked by a distinctive style, form, or content: "his six String Quartets ... the most important works in the genre since Beethoven's" Time.
b. A realistic style of painting that depicts scenes from everyday life. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 12:04 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Classic Rock is a Genre? |
gen·re (zhänr)
n.
1. A type or class: "Emaciated famine victims ... on television focused a new genre of attention on the continent" Helen Kitchen.
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a. A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, marked by a distinctive style, form, or content: "his six String Quartets ... the most important works in the genre since Beethoven's" Time.
b. A realistic style of painting that depicts scenes from everyday life. |
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I didn't say I didn't know what genre meant.
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mystic fred
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 12:29 |
aapatsos wrote:
^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!
spo: Heaven and Hell is mainly heavy metal IMO, but you are right in a way if you consider Neon Knights...
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i have always considered NWOBHM as not a specific genre or sub-genre of heavy rock/metal but is more of a description of the players, musicians from Britain around the early 80's.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 13:09 |
Snow Dog wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Classic Rock is a Genre? |
gen·re (zhänr)
n.
1. A type or class: "Emaciated famine victims ... on television focused a new genre of attention on the continent" Helen Kitchen.
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a. A category of artistic composition, as in music or literature, marked by a distinctive style, form, or content: "his six String Quartets ... the most important works in the genre since Beethoven's" Time.
b. A realistic style of painting that depicts scenes from everyday life. |
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I didn't say I didn't know what genre meant.
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NWOBHM is a genre by that definition ... it marks a distinctive style, form or content. That's why I posted these definitions ...
Maybe we would get somewhere if you explained why NWOBHM or Classic Rock aren't genres in your opinion?
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aapatsos
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 13:55 |
mystic fred wrote:
aapatsos wrote:
^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!
spo: Heaven and Hell is mainly heavy metal IMO, but you are right in a way if you consider Neon Knights...
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i have always considered NWOBHM as not a specific genre or sub-genre of heavy rock/metal but is more of a description of the players, musicians from Britain around the early 80's.
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I don't think so, NWOBHM was a metal 'movement', that consisted of various bands who had a similar sound... early Maiden, Ratt, Raven, Diamond Head etc.
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aapatsos
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Posted: March 22 2006 at 13:56 |
But we're getting out of the subject here, it's not about NWOBHM, it's about the first POWER metal album
let me here your thoughts...
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unclemeat69
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Posted: December 14 2007 at 14:43 |
aapatsos wrote:
mystic fred wrote:
aapatsos wrote:
^ NWOBHM is definitely a genre!
spo: Heaven and Hell is mainly heavy metal IMO, but you are right in a way if you consider Neon Knights...
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i have always considered NWOBHM as not a specific genre or
sub-genre of heavy rock/metal but is more of a description
of the players, musicians from Britain around the early 80's.
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I don't think so, NWOBHM was a metal 'movement', that consisted of
various bands who had a similar sound... early Maiden, Ratt, Raven,
Diamond Head etc. |
For the record Ratt was never a nwobhm band, they're not even british!!
They may be an influence on later power metal
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Follow your bliss
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 14 2007 at 15:06 |
^ agreed, my mistake... that was a long time ago.....
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Jared
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Posted: December 14 2007 at 15:13 |
whern I was a young kid (14 when Manowar's Battle Hymns was released), they were generally considered as being the fathers of Power Metal, as distinct from NWOBHM....
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Damjan
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Posted: December 14 2007 at 18:03 |
Anvil's Metal on Metal(83) is an early power metal album nobody else mentioned but i don't know if its the first
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