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explodingjosh 
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 Posted: September 14 2007 at 14:31 |
 Time Signature wrote:
puma wrote:
The song isn't "prog", whatever that means, but it sure is in an odd time signature!
Btw it's alternating 7/4 and 6/4, there's no 13/8 anywhere in the song
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Not if you ask Phil Collins. He claims it's in 13/8. I guess it depends on whether you see it in the perspective of the drum beat or the guitar figure. |
13/8 + 13/8 = 7/4 + 6/4, So I guess it depends on how you like to count, where you find your groove.
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P.H.P.
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 14:25 |
Prog is not about "how complex you can get" so it doesn't really matter if the song is in 13/8 or whatever, remember those 3 guys are superior musicians, really talented, but doing pop rock here. 
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Chicapah
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 14:02 |
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My parameters of what I consider prog are rather liberal but I would consider the song to be very progressive regardless, especially when viewed in light of the disco/punk/new-age timeframe it was released in.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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Time Signature
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 13:48 |
puma wrote:
The song isn't "prog", whatever that means, but it sure is in an odd time signature!
Btw it's alternating 7/4 and 6/4, there's no 13/8 anywhere in the song
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Not if you ask Phil Collins. He claims it's in 13/8. I guess it depends on whether you see it in the perspective of the drum beat or the guitar figure.
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P.H.P.
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 13:46 |
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This clearly isn't the prog rock Genesis we all like, though it's not in my tastes, I think "turn it on again" isn't bad, I think it's good pop rock.
"And there were three" has the last remains of the prog rock Genesis (and that is just a couple of songs that are more proggish).
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puma
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 13:42 |
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The song isn't "prog", whatever that means, but it sure is in an odd time signature!
Btw it's alternating 7/4 and 6/4, there's no 13/8 anywhere in the song
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Lota
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 13:37 |
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Not Really, its just another 80's song. The Album Itself (Duke) I would consider it Prog.
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And In The End, The Love You Take, Is Equal To The Love You Make
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Time Signature
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 13:37 |
I'm almost constantly listening to it these days. I really like the way that they manage to "disguise" the 13/8 main part and the 3/4 parts as something simpler. It also deviates from the traditional song structure, and the only thing that is chorus-like appears at the very end. I think, I'd consider the tune to be somewhat progressive.
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Raff
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 13:16 |
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Well, I used to like the song, but prog? Probably not... Haven't heard it in years, though.
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Time Signature
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Posted: September 14 2007 at 13:14 |
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Would you guys consider Genesis' "Turn it on again" to be prog, or at least proggish?
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"Turn it on again": prog?
