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"YESTERDAYS - Holdfénykert

Ez egy romániai együttes, amely jelenleg tíz zenészbôl áll (akik közül három hölgy és egy magyarországi session ütős). A "Yesterdays" 2000 eleje óta működik és egy sor albumot, sőt egy DVD-t is kihozott már, bemutatkozásként a 2002-es "Come Dream With Me"-vel.

A CD összesen tíz dalból áll kb. 50 percnyi játékidőben. Első részére mindenekelőtt egy kellemes, folkos színezetű hangzás jellemző, amelyben gazdagon szerepel az akusztikus gitár és a fuvola, meg egy kellemes, a Renaissance-os Annie Haslam-ot idéző (noha az övénél tisztább) női énekhang. Igen szép az akusztikus gitár duett (tapping-technikával megszólaltatva), és rendkívül szép a hegedű-mellotron folyamok beágyazása egyes dalokba. A cédé második részében egy igencsak szimfonikus hangvételt hallani a folk mellett, ahol a billentyűjátékos finoman besimuló szintetizátor futamokkal gyönyörködtet a Moog-on, no meg újabb szép mellotron betétekkel. Kiemelkedően meleg hangzású az akusztikus gitár-csembaló duett. A lemez csúcspontja a hosszabb, meglehetősen változatos és szimfonikus "Seven": az elején gyors ritmika Moog dallamokkal és mellotronnal, ami aztán meleg-lágy női énekhangot megszólaltató, álomszerű folytatásra vált. Ezt követi egy lassú rész, érzelmes gitárral és persze mellotron futamokkal. A befejező rész egy fuvolaszólóval és felsiramló gitárral indul, majd egy harsogó Hammond orgonaszóló bombasztikus kitörésébe torkollik. Igazi remeklés!

Noha a hallgatónak nem kevéssé elkötelezettnek kell lennie a folk és fôként a melankolikus hangzásvilág iránt, de a szimfonikus rock beépítése igazán ragyogóan sikerült! (Erik Neuteboom)"

DELIRIUM

Erik Neuteboom:
19/03/07 - Ciò è una fascia italiana leggendaria del progrock che ha prodotto parecchi album negli anni settanta in anticipo. A metà strada gli anni '90 Delirum hanno fatto un comeback compreso alcuni nuovi album dell'studio e in 2006 hanno effettuato nella città italiana Trento, liberato appena su questo CD. Possiamo godere i musicisti crafty ed ispirati che li curano su una miscela tasteful della gente (che caratterizzano scanalatura di turbine, i guitars acustici caldi e i vocals forti) e delle canzoni della roccia con il guitar ardente e il saxophone potente. A determinati momenti Delirum trasporta le parti suonanti jazzy con il piano e i bas d'oscillazione. La maggior parte delle 13 composizioni contengono il lavoro grande sul guitar e saxophone e naturalmente, nella tradizione degli anni settanta, sentiamo il soli sui tamburi e sulla spigola. I miei punti culminanti sono Villagio (potente con la scanalatura di turbine e il soli forte ardente e del guitar sul guitar, sul saxophone, sulla scanalatura e sull'organo), Preludio: Paura (folky con un assolo meraviglioso sul guitar acustico), Gioia, Disordine, Risentimento (costringendo con un assolo grezzo e bluesy del guitar), un Jethro Tull Medley (buon gioco sulla scanalatura, guitar e spigola e un atmosfera in tensione piacevole) e una resa eccellente del Cocker del Joe il suo classico del `' con un aiuto piccolo della punta dai miei amici che caratterizzano gli inondazioni splendidi dell'organo e lle prestazioni vocali ispirate! La canzone Notte che un Bagdad è basato sul fatto che il governo dell'Italia trasmette i soldati ad Irak per una missione, esso suona oscillante e moderna. Sono impressionato da questa fascia italiana leggendaria del progrock, questa sono un buon album in tensione con lavoro eccezionale sul guitar, sulla scanalatura e sul saxophone in una miscela progressiva captivating della roccia e della gente, appena come la loro ispirazione Jehtro Tull! La mia valutazione: 3.5 stelle.

                     So Brasilian (Portuguese), Russian, Hungarian and Italian 

 

By the way, fortunately not only commercial CD/DVD mailorder services but also bands websites like Delirum

 

 

Edited by erik neuteboom - September 05 2007 at 04:43

Hmmm... thanks for the helpful responses -- no doubt Maani and Gatot will be grateful for your concern over their PA reviews being stolen....

Edited by Peter - September 06 2007 at 08:49

Tony R wrote: Peter wrote: Hmmm... thanks for the helpful responses -- no doubt Maani and Gatot will be grateful for your concern over their PA reviews being stolen.... have you asked them? I guess that Amazon could be contacted and informed of this plagiarism. The trouble is that the web is one big info pool and why we should certainly NOT condone these saddoes who pass off other people's reviews as their own, chasing sites every time they use our reviews uncredited would be futile I think. I'm not dodging my Admin responsibilities here I just dont think its a good idea to set a precedent. I for one dont want to spend my every waking moment tracking down plagiarists because The Admin team did it for Maani and Gatot and therefore should do it for everybody..

Edited by Peter - September 06 2007 at 17:20

Because of my previous job, I have some familiarity with the issues of copyright, intellectual property and such - and I can tell you that experts in the matter are at a loss about what to do with the whole Internet situation. The web is so huge that people could steal anything without the injured party ever getting wind of it.

Some sites that have a lot of published material (I am using a few of these for my PhD research) state it clearly that it is available to everyone, but that they would prefer users to at least cite their source (something I always do). In the case of those bios and reviews, I've noticed that some of those sites have actually credited both the author and PA, while others, in real scumbaggy fashion, have passed them off as their own. Now, I don't want to play devil's advocate, but I remember that quite a few bios in our DB come from other sources, which are not always duly credited.

Oh come on. Admit it. You creampuffs love the idea of others using your stuff. It puts relevance in your work now.

Are they at least using the good ones ?
"Like, this is the best album that they have ever put out in my opinion. I should know because I have half of their 5 CDs. Their music is like no other band. You can hear riffs from XXXX, some vocals like YYYY, and I swear the guitarist sounds exactly like ZZZZ.
If it wasn't for this album, I would not be a porg fan. And having listened to music since I was 12, I can tell you that I know music. I listened to over 100 albums, and I'm only sixteen. But I'm not hung up on the old stuff, like the 80s & 90s. I think that 20th century music will be as good as the ones put out 10 years ago, because more bands have heard more other groups, so they make up their own new stuff better.
SO to finish, buy this album. I couldn't find here in town, so I used XXX to download it. But it is worth the price, you know.

My post from another thread on a similar subject:

http://zeuhlmusic.blogspot.com

Scroll down this blog. Under Weidorje's album there is a review of it by our Joren. It's copied completely with the stars, Joren's title (SPECIAL COLLABORATOR) and even a link to his profile...

Well.. They have done it to me too

Edited by Frippertron - October 14 2007 at 14:30

Frippertron wrote: Well.. They have done it to me too   http://www.muzikmarketi.com/story/oldfield-mike-amarok-1990-rated-55-by-frippertron/   It wasnt as though it was a good review either LOL.   My name is there for all to see, but what annoys the most is "Prog Archives" isnt mentioned.. Tut tut.   I think it just goes to show that these sites are not capable of doing any decent reviews so use the wonderful Prog Archive reviewers instead.

I did a quick search on that site, and found reviews by Ricochet, Geck0, Melomaniac, Joren, Finnforest, Easy Livin, ClemOfNazareth... all without the a ref to ProgArchives, and likely without notifying the authors. Nice job