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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 13:16
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Got a favorite Rush mix? What's in it? I have one that is nothing but the last songs on studio albums, with a few exceptions due to CD space.
 
While at the show last night, I was thinking that I need to make a mixed CD of all of their instrumentals only.  I'm not sure how well they will fit onto a CD, but I think that that is going to be one of my goals. 
 
I made a mixed cassette tape a number of years ago on which I put the songs that I felt were the most obscure of their catalogue.  I don't remember all of what I put on there but as I recall I was going for the songs that they hadn't played live or on their Chronicles albums.  I guess that I was hoping to make a "new" Rush album by using songs that I didn't feel I was familiar with (probably because they weren't overplayed) and become more familiar with these songs.  I will have to go home and see if I can find that tape.  I am pretty sure that I had songs like Vital Signs, Cinderella Man, Something For Nothing and Circumstances on there.  Also, the Fear trilogy.
 
P.S. Excellent show by the way.  The set list was quite unexpected.  I haven't decided yet on whether or not that was a good thing.  They have so much material and so little time to play it.  I guess that I can take solace in the fact, that a lot of the songs that I wanted to hear, and they didn't play, I can go home and watch on DVD. I think that this set list may have been formulated for them to release a new concert DVD for which the fans will have to run out and buy again, because they won't be able to say they already have those songs on video.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 14:07
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I'd like to know your opinions on Victor (Lifeson's solo effort) and Geddy Lee's Favorite Headache.  Personally I love them both.  I think Geddy's choice of musicians (Soundgarden's Matt Cameron on drums and Ben Mink on guitars, violin and songwriting) was excellent, and he also wrot some great lyrics ; I wouldn't mind him writing a few for Rush. 
 
Victor's album was very good.  Some interesting experimentations in there, great songwriting and musical execution from everyone involved.  Dalbello's voice in "Start Today" amazes me every time I hear it.
 
Actually, I wouldn't mind if they decided to throw one song from each of these two albums in Rush's live set.  Because, let's face it, some of these songs (or maybe riffs) would have been on a Rush album had nothing happened to Neil during this time.  My choices ?  My Favorite Headache from Geddy's album and Promise from Victor.
 
What about you ?
 
Sorry to quote myself, but I'd really like your opinions on this one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 14:10
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I think that this set list may have been formulated for them to release a new concert DVD for which the fans will have to run out and buy again, because they won't be able to say they already have those songs on video.
 
I'll be buying it if it comes out.  The near entirety of S&A played live ?  You bet I want to have it !
 
Speaking of S&A, besides the instrumentals, my favorite is Armour and Sword.  The most proggy song (with lyrics) on the record in my opinion, nice vocal melodies and harmonies, I love every little thing about this song.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 14:56
Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

 
I'd like to know your opinions on Victor (Lifeson's solo effort) and Geddy Lee's Favorite Headache.  Personally I love them both.  I think Geddy's choice of musicians (Soundgarden's Matt Cameron on drums and Ben Mink on guitars, violin and songwriting) was excellent, and he also wrot some great lyrics ; I wouldn't mind him writing a few for Rush. 
 
Victor's album was very good.  Some interesting experimentations in there, great songwriting and musical execution from everyone involved.  Dalbello's voice in "Start Today" amazes me every time I hear it.
 
Actually, I wouldn't mind if they decided to throw one song from each of these two albums in Rush's live set.  Because, let's face it, some of these songs (or maybe riffs) would have been on a Rush album had nothing happened to Neil during this time.  My choices ?  My Favorite Headache from Geddy's album and Promise from Victor.
 
What about you ?
 
Sorry to quote myself, but I'd really like your opinions on this one.
 
I haven't listened to My Favorite Headache nor Victor in quite a while.  I felt both were solid solo albums when I heard them.  I haven't listened to them in a while, so I will have to give them a listen and get back with you on this one.  I know that on Victor, I really liked Victor and Shut Up and Play the Guitar. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 15:15
Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I think that this set list may have been formulated for them to release a new concert DVD for which the fans will have to run out and buy again, because they won't be able to say they already have those songs on video.
 
I'll be buying it if it comes out.  The near entirety of S&A played live ?  You bet I want to have it !
 
Speaking of S&A, besides the instrumentals, my favorite is Armour and Sword.  The most proggy song (with lyrics) on the record in my opinion, nice vocal melodies and harmonies, I love every little thing about this song.
 
My comment was both truthful and sarcastic.  I saw on one of the threads somewhere somebody bashing Rush for releasing so many videos (probably Schizoid Man, but not positive).  I will most certainly be getting any new DVD release with this tour also. 
 
For me, there are so many good songs on S&A it is difficult to choose a favorite.  My word, 3 instrumentals on one Rush album (non-live).  I would agree that Armour and Sword is probably the most proggy, and best song with lyrics on the album.  I know that I am not supposed to like Far Cry because it is "the single", but I do.  The promo at the concert said that Far Cry was on the playlist at about 140 different radio stations nationwide.  Personally, I have never actually heard it on the radio, but then again, I hardly ever listen to the radio, so if radio stations are playing it, then maybe there is hope.  The live show opened my eyes (ears?) to The Larger Bowl, The Way the Wind Blows and Good News First.  All are excellent songs. 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 16:08
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I think that this set list may have been formulated for them to release a new concert DVD for which the fans will have to run out and buy again, because they won't be able to say they already have those songs on video.
 
I'll be buying it if it comes out.  The near entirety of S&A played live ?  You bet I want to have it !
 
Speaking of S&A, besides the instrumentals, my favorite is Armour and Sword.  The most proggy song (with lyrics) on the record in my opinion, nice vocal melodies and harmonies, I love every little thing about this song.
 
My comment was both truthful and sarcastic.  I saw on one of the threads somewhere somebody bashing Rush for releasing so many videos (probably Schizoid Man, but not positive).  I will most certainly be getting any new DVD release with this tour also. 
 
For me, there are so many good songs on S&A it is difficult to choose a favorite.  My word, 3 instrumentals on one Rush album (non-live).  I would agree that Armour and Sword is probably the most proggy, and best song with lyrics on the album.  I know that I am not supposed to like Far Cry because it is "the single", but I do.  The promo at the concert said that Far Cry was on the playlist at about 140 different radio stations nationwide.  Personally, I have never actually heard it on the radio, but then again, I hardly ever listen to the radio, so if radio stations are playing it, then maybe there is hope.  The live show opened my eyes (ears?) to The Larger Bowl, The Way the Wind Blows and Good News First.  All are excellent songs. 
 
 
 
Far Cry rocks my socks off, man !  It's a bit idiot this thing of not liking singles ; this means we would have to hate so many good songs : Spirit of Radio, Freewill, Tom Sawyer, Limelight, Subdivisions, New World Man, Distant Early Warning, Big Money, The Manhattan Project, Force Ten, time Stand Still, SHow Don't Tell, The Pass, Dreamline, etc,etc,etc... all of which are EXCELLENT songs !  If there is one thing Rush are good at, it's actually writing excellent singles !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 16:14
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Re: Test For Echo, I played the hell out of that when I first got it (to the annoyance of my college roommates at the time Big%20smile), but I don't feel like it's stood the test of time.  Maybe I'll give it another spin sometime soon and see (haven't listened to it in years).  I will say that "Driven" remains the standout for me, love that track and especially love the performance of it on Different Stages.  The title track is also great, too.


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Test For Echo could be down the line a bit for me; however, I love "Half The World". Maybe I need to spin 'er again. I just know "Dog Years" doesn't do it for me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 16:20
Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Not exactly directed towards you, Big Man. Just saying in general. Hell, even during a phone conversation with a buddy last week he expressed his distaste for it. I understood your position perfectly.

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Oh, that's clearer Eric, thanks ! Big%20smile  It is true that it sometimes gets generally bashed (harsh word, T4E and RTB get bashed, but not HYF) unjustifiably.  I think the 2 I mentioned somewhat deserve the bashing, even though there are great songs on each (Dreamline, Bravado, Where's My thing and Ghost of a Chance from RTB, T4E, Driven, Time and Motion, Limbo from T4E).


Roll The Bones is still a favorite of mine. I think from top to bottom it's a solid effort with some curves thrown in. I need to listen to that one again.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 16:28
^ agreed.  The first time a friend of mine heard this song with me, she thought they were singing "Row the Boat".  Thus a good song for children too.  One of these days (not the PF song), I must write that parody.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 16:28
One of the biggest surprises I took away from last week's show is how well the new stuff holds up against the other material. I thought is sounded amazing (especially "The Main Monkey Business"). The second set after intermission started off with a good 4 or 5 songs from the new album, which was fine by me. "Far Cry" was a real killer live.

If they do another DVD, I'll get it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 16:32
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Re: Test For Echo, I played the hell out of that when I first got it (to the annoyance of my college roommates at the time Big%20smile), but I don't feel like it's stood the test of time.  Maybe I'll give it another spin sometime soon and see (haven't listened to it in years).  I will say that "Driven" remains the standout for me, love that track and especially love the performance of it on Different Stages.  The title track is also great, too.


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Test For Echo could be down the line a bit for me; however, I love "Half The World". Maybe I need to spin 'er again. I just know "Dog Years" doesn't do it for me.

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Yeah, that track is indeed a "dog".  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 16:40
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Re: Test For Echo, I played the hell out of that when I first got it (to the annoyance of my college roommates at the time Big%20smile), but I don't feel like it's stood the test of time.  Maybe I'll give it another spin sometime soon and see (haven't listened to it in years).  I will say that "Driven" remains the standout for me, love that track and especially love the performance of it on Different Stages.  The title track is also great, too.


Don't slam me for this. TFE is some great Rush song put to poor lyrics. It's as if Neil's head wasn't into it, but then again, it was a tough period for him.

It has so many musical high lights but they are countered with less than typical weak lyrics.

I did feel there was Progressiveness in it as well. Time and Motion, one of my all-time Rush faves, is a definite Progressive song.
 
ClapHere Here. And a great example of great music but bad lyrics is Dog Years. I remember the first time i litened to it and during the begining it was great, then the first line of the song comes in : " In a dogs life a year is really more like seven..." yeah after that I just skip this song when it comes by, however its the only one on T4E I skip. Also Virtuality has some chesey lyrics but awesome music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 16:43
I suppose that even I must admit that they "kicked the pooch" on Dog Years.  I don't hate the song, but it has made me cringe.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 16:56
What about Grace Under Pressure? I remember seeing "Distant Early Warning" for the first time on MTV and really taken off guard by how different it was from anything they had done before. I bought the LP (remember those relics?), but just never embraced it fully. I went years without hearing it, but picked up the remastered about 5 years ago and now it's one of my favorites. It has a very searing coldness to it that I can appreciate now. "Between The Wheels" has always been a favorite, though. So glad they had that one in the set list.

From what I read, however, Peter Henderson was a pain in the Vick to work with, though. I guess the guy just waffled and could never make a decision himself. No wonder they never worked with him again.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 17:03
I love GUP.  I think the only weak track in there is Kid Gloves, the rest are superb.  Geddy dubbed GUP as his most frustrating album mainly due to the problems with Henderson.  He says he likes the song on it but can't help but think of the context in which they were created and recorded (taken from Martin Popoff's Contents Under Pressure : 30 Years of Rush).
 
It also has to be said that Alex's least favorite Rush album is Signals, because of the original production, in which his guitars were barely audible.  The main reason behind Broon's "bane". Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 17:05
Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

 
I'd like to know your opinions on Victor (Lifeson's solo effort) and Geddy Lee's Favorite Headache.  Personally I love them both.  I think Geddy's choice of musicians (Soundgarden's Matt Cameron on drums and Ben Mink on guitars, violin and songwriting) was excellent, and he also wrot some great lyrics ; I wouldn't mind him writing a few for Rush. 
 
Victor's album was very good.  Some interesting experimentations in there, great songwriting and musical execution from everyone involved.  Dalbello's voice in "Start Today" amazes me every time I hear it.
 
Actually, I wouldn't mind if they decided to throw one song from each of these two albums in Rush's live set.  Because, let's face it, some of these songs (or maybe riffs) would have been on a Rush album had nothing happened to Neil during this time.  My choices ?  My Favorite Headache from Geddy's album and Promise from Victor.
 
What about you ?
 
Sorry to quote myself, but I'd really like your opinions on this one.


Hey Eric,

Here is my review of Victor.
http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=115077

I like it better than Geddy's solo release. Hmmm...looks like another thing to put on the back burner.


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I love GUP.  I think the only weak track in there is Kid Gloves, the rest are superb.  


Funny, I love Kid Gloves, Lifeson rips off one of his best solos on that track.  Absolutely detest Red Lenses (that got me into trouble with Equality Embarrassed)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 17:07
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From what I read, however, Peter Henderson was a pain in the Vick to work with, though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 17:09
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Melomaniac Melomaniac wrote:

I love GUP.  I think the only weak track in there is Kid Gloves, the rest are superb.  


Funny, I love Kid Gloves, Lifeson rips off one of his best solos on that track.  Absolutely detest Red Lenses (that got me into trouble with Equality Embarrassed)
 
Yeah, Red Lenses is the other weakling, but it has it's moments, so that's why I didn't mention it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2007 at 17:17
I couldn't resist to create another thread about Rush Wink :
 
 
                                              I hope you will join it Thumbs%20Up
 
 
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