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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 08:29
Originally posted by LeInsomniac LeInsomniac wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The Relesase Music Orchestra is another example of great fusion. The best fusion band of all time, however, are the United Jazz and Rock ensemble (which is not in the archives yet). The line-up alone is fantastic: Jon Hiseman -drums, Eberhard Weber - bass, Volker Kriegel - guitar, Wolfgang Dauner - keyboards, Albert Mangelsdorff - trombone, Ian Carr - trumpet, Ack van Royen - trumpet and flugelhorn, Barbara Thompson - saxes and flutes, Charlie Mariano - saxes and nagaswaram. On their second album Kenny Wheeler (flugelhorn) joined. They should definitely be included in the database.


Well then I suggest that you try to add this group and work on a Bio for them, I got interested in them! Do you know an album I should get, or someplace I can get to listen some mp3 of them?

There are some videos of them on YouTube, with Dave King replacing Eberhard Weber. Here the links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtpdmjnLnTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1qxvJy7Nc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DX4IW1aAsc

I hope these videos whet your appetite for more.

Their albums are available from Mood records. Here the link:
http://www.jazzpages.com/MoodRecords/mood_ef.htm

Start with their first album "Live im Schützenhaus" from 1977 and work your way forward from there. Fusion of the very finest; they definitely don't have to hide from anyone.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 11:00
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The best fusion band of all time, however, are the United Jazz and Rock ensemble (which is not in the archives yet). The line-up alone is fantastic: Jon Hiseman -drums, Eberhard Weber - bass (etc.)


Of course the great Eberhard Weber should also be in Progarchives!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 14:56
Killer groovy stuff !!! Is that a toilet plunger the trombone player is using for a mute?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 15:13
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The best fusion band of all time, however, are the United Jazz and Rock ensemble (which is not in the archives yet). The line-up alone is fantastic: Jon Hiseman -drums, Eberhard Weber - bass (etc.)


Of course the great Eberhard Weber should also be in Progarchives!


Hmmm. The ensemble I don't know (I'll have to check the video's Friede posted), but Eberhard Weber solo might be a bit off limits for PA. I'm listening to Colours of Chlöe right now, and although it's really good stuff, it's not rock - and definitely not progressive rock. He's a great player though!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 15:51
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The best fusion band of all time, however, are the United Jazz and Rock ensemble (which is not in the archives yet). The line-up alone is fantastic: Jon Hiseman -drums, Eberhard Weber - bass (etc.)


Of course the great Eberhard Weber should also be in Progarchives!


Hmmm. The ensemble I don't know (I'll have to check the video's Friede posted), but Eberhard Weber solo might be a bit off limits for PA. I'm listening to Colours of Chlöe right now, and although it's really good stuff, it's not rock - and definitely not progressive rock. He's a great player though!

I agree about Weber, at least his solo albums and his band Colours; he is definitely jazz. But The United Jazz and Rock Ensemble don't have "Rock" in their name for nothing.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2007 at 19:20
Mahavishnu Orchestra!!!!!!!!!!!  Listen to this 500 times and then you can die. hehehe
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 03:01
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Mahavishnu Orchestra!!!!!!!!!!!  Listen to this 500 times and then you can die. hehehe
 
I agree with you. But I have some additional "spice";120 min DVD from different live performances
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:16
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So i suppose Fuxi that the best way to acquire them is by Amazon? You got me interested.



Yep, I got IN THE WEST (which is excellent) through Amazon.uk and I believe they often sell YUME NO OKA as well!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:21
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:


Eberhard Weber solo might be a bit off limits for PA. I'm listening to Colours of Chlöe right now, and although it's really good stuff, it's not rock - and definitely not progressive rock. He's a great player though!


Of course it's jazz, but so are Weather Report, Pat Metheny and John Abercrombie. Eberhard Weber's prog affinities are at least as striking as theirs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:25
^ One can rock even without electric guitars; that's what Weather Report does. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:31
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

^ One can rock even without electric guitars; that's what Weather Report does. 


and the RFSQ


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:34
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Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

^ One can rock even without electric guitars; that's what Weather Report does. 


and the RFSQ


 
And the ELP.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:38
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

^ One can rock even without electric guitars; that's what Weather Report does. 


and the RFSQ




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:44
sorry... too many abbreviations

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:45
Yeah, besides, we both know that YYNJJiQ is exclusively a guitar band, but hardly rocks at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:47
yes, and the great BRTFoMUotQ

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 04:49
How could I forget them? Almost as good as NiBBLoTaSS.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 05:35
COLEY 'GOODBYE BRAINS' 
If your into Nucleus you'll love these.Forget about a CD issue though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 16:18
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

One can rock even without electric guitars; that's what Weather Report does. 


Oh, so THAT's what they do, eh? Now that sounds REALLY convincing! As for Eberhard Weber, of course he's a jazz musician, but on albums like SILENT FEET and YELLOW FIELDS he "approaches" (as it were) symphonic prog from a jazz angle, just as Pat Metheny did on (among others) THE WAY UP. Weber may not be a ROCKER, but neither is blooming Klaus Schulze...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2007 at 16:23
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

One can rock even without electric guitars; that's what Weather Report does. 


Oh, so THAT's what they do, eh? Now that sounds REALLY convincing!


I don't want to convince you of anything Question , but maybe you haven't listened to Black Market. They do rock, there (among other things of course). And that is definitely not jazz. They may be a lot more jazzier on other albums, but I think Black Market is the most relevant regarding their presence on the PA.
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