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glass house
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 17:58 | |
Dirk, regarding Al di Meola, you have Return To Forever? Try them if you don't.
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NotSoKoolAid
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:00 | |
I had never heard of Garaj Mahal until now. They actually sound pretty solid.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:12 | |
Also more on the prog side are a couple of European bands from the early `70s you guys should check out. Midnight Sun who were from Denmark and Eiliff from Germany. Both are on the archives and are available on CD.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:31 | |
Good advices. About Embryo, "Rocksession" is a must. |
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Dirk
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 18:47 | |
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LeInsomniac
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 19:58 | |
Just started listening to Planet X Moonbabies...man I'm at loss of words, it sounds incredible, nice fusion of prog metal elements and jazz, never quite heard something like this, you guys better try them!!!
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1800iareyay
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 18 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2492 |
Posted: August 03 2007 at 20:04 | |
Their new album Quantum, is quite good, with Allan Holdsworth replacing MacAlpine. I think they sounded better with Tony, even though Holdsworth is the superior jazz guitarist.
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jammun
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 22:00 | |
You will want to be careful here.
After prog (ELP, Yes, etc.) became too bombastic for me (around 1973-1974-ish, if memory serves, which it may not), I turned to fusion as a nice source of music played by accomplished musicians. Unfortunately, fusion itself eventually became bombastic, at which point I came to enjoy the relative simplicity of The Clash, etc.
But as far a jazz-rock/fusion goes, here are recommendations:
Return to Forever (self-titled, Light As A Feather, Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy, etc.)
Mahavishnu (Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire)
Weather Report (Sweetnighter, Heavy Weather)
Herbie Hancock (Headhunters stuff, e.g., Thrust)
Keith Jarrett
This will invariably lead you to try some Miles Davis:
Bitches Brew
At The Fillmore
On The Corner
Agharta
and others too numerous to mention
Which will eventually lead you to try jazz itself -- early Miles, Coltrane, Bird, Duke Ellington, and others too numerous to mention.
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sheeves
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Posted: August 03 2007 at 22:46 | |
Steely Dan, Brand X and King Crimson's Red i think might qualify
for steely dan, especially Can't Buy a Thrill, Countdown to Ecstacy, and Pretzel Logic Edited by sheeves - August 03 2007 at 22:46 |
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Easy Livin
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 04:16 | |
For reference the thread below, which also dedicated to jazz rock, has been continued in this thread:
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LeInsomniac
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 06:16 | |
I also sometime ago, acquired the first and second albums from Softmachine; they're not quite Third, but great records as well! Gonna give soon enough a review on Planet X Moonbabies, great album folks
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BaldFriede
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 06:40 | |
Early Embryo albums are great jazz rock too, especially "Bad Heads and Bad Cats" and their first live album.
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Angelo
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 07:04 | |
Opal, the first I heard of them, is a great listen as well - even if it only scores 3 stars in our PA rating system. I'm moving on to Rocksession now, which is quite different. |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 07:44 | |
Perhaps because our tastes differ slightly I have to say I prefer Quantum - coincidentally it arrived yesterday from Amazon and has been played hard since. It is the first Planet X album I felt has consistent jazz rock fusion feel running throughout (of the 4 albums I have of their's), rather heavy instrumental rock with the occasional jazzy solo thrown in. That perhaps reflects Sherinian and Donati's employment of musicians who are better known for jazz rock than heavy rock. I've been an admirer of Australian Bret Garsed's guitarwork (various solo and duo albums with T.J Helmerich , including Uncle Moe's Space Ranch, although when adopts a Holdsworthian style in his solo work here, he does slightly confuse as to whether he or the maestro are playing certain passages - the liner notes are poor wrt who does what. Although I'm absolutely sure when Holdsworth is doing the business. And Jimmy Johnson, bass regular with Allan Holdsworth, also helps give that feel of a near complete jazz rock album. Donati's drumming is pretty special on this album. Sherinian is comparatively restrained but when he strikes in there are echoes of Hammer and Emerson and dare I say it somethings I thought lifted from one of Jens Johansson's best solo album. I recommend Quantum strongly - btw so are many of the contributors at Fusenet jazz rock discussion site, who turned me on to the album originally. |
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Dick Heath
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 07:53 | |
You got start somewhere - however, bad news: the discography in Stuart Nicholson essential "biography" Jazz Rock A History listed over 4000 albums - the book is 10 years old now - I think since I lent the book to somebody a couple years ago and not seen it since!. |
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fuxi
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 08:18 | |
With such preferences you're bound to love KENSO, especially their masterpiece FABULIS MIRABILIBUS, which you will find reviewed here: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=6066 |
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Nightfly
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 08:33 | |
I have an album by Steve Smith's (Ex- Journey) Vital Information called orion which is pretty good. I think he's done quite a bit in the Jazz/Fusion area.
I can also recomend Heavy metal Be bop by the Brecker Brothers which features Terry Bozzio on Drums.
You may also want to check out the Chick Corea Electric Band and a lot of people rate Pat Metheny very highly although I must admit to not being mad about his guitar sound.
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Tetragon
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 10:54 | |
GILGAMESH..
Nor as good as Brand X bur simular.
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LeInsomniac
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 11:18 | |
So i suppose Fuxi that the best way to acquire them is by Amazon? You got me interested. |
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BaldFriede
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Posted: August 04 2007 at 13:52 | |
Oh, and of course Gong definitely have to be mentioned too. Their jazz-rock period begins with the in my opinion slightly underrated "Shamal".
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