Prog and Lucifer

thellama73 wrote: JesusisLord wrote:  If you read again my original post, the point being made was that prior to receiving salvation through Christ, all men are lost and have been born into the wrong family. The common misconception that we are all God's children is entirely unbiblical. The Bible teaches that you become a child of God through faith in Christ Jesus. (Gal. 2) So a man regardless of what he does, or a musician, regardless of what he plays is still either a child of God, having been born into God's family by receiving Christ, or he is still lost, unsaved and in the devil's household because He has rejected the gift of God(John 3: 16-19) Pick up a Bible read it yourself. I didn't write it. Well, the Bible also says that anyone who does any work on the Sabbath must be put to death and that anyone who blasphemes against God must be stoned to death by the congregation, so there you go.

progismylife wrote: StyLaZyn wrote: thellama73 wrote: JesusisLord wrote:  If you read again my original post, the point being made was that prior to receiving salvation through Christ, all men are lost and have been born into the wrong family. The common misconception that we are all God's children is entirely unbiblical. The Bible teaches that you become a child of God through faith in Christ Jesus. (Gal. 2) So a man regardless of what he does, or a musician, regardless of what he plays is still either a child of God, having been born into God's family by receiving Christ, or he is still lost, unsaved and in the devil's household because He has rejected the gift of God(John 3: 16-19) Pick up a Bible read it yourself. I didn't write it. Well, the Bible also says that anyone who does any work on the Sabbath must be put to death and that anyone who blasphemes against God must be stoned to death by the congregation, so there you go.   Let the awareness of Bible contradictions and evils deeds begin!!!   Oh boy, I have seen this on other forums. The Bible fundamentalists always lose. Let the arguing begin! GO!GO!GO!GO!GO!GO!GO!GO! and they're off! Round the first corner....

JesusisLord wrote:    Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father,ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God: neither came I of myself, but He sent me. Why do you not understand my speech? Even because Ye cannot understand my word. Ye are of your Father the devil, and the lust of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there was no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar, and the father of it. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if i say the truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God heareth God's words: Ye hear them not because Ye are not of God.                                                                                          John 8:42-47

Edited by StyLaZyn - August 02 2007 at 16:34

Satanism is a ridiculous religion. It claims to oppose Christianity's "weak-mindedness" and "meekness"...but it's based in Judeo-Christian mythology.

So, I'm pretty sure there might be one or two prog bands that fiddled around with "Satan" to sound cool and mysterious...but I doubt even many of the psychedelic folks took it seriously.

Religions that influence prog disproportionately would probably be agnosticism/atheism and the New Age mystical currents. Neither have anything to do with Satan. And I would venture a guess that informal or  formal Christianity is the religion of many prog-heads, and is a plurality (not a majority, but still the largest group), followed by agnosticism/atheism, followed by Jews and New Agers. I can't think of any Islamic influence. There is tons of music influenced by the Dharmic religions, but whether there are many Buddhists or Hindus in prog is difficult to say.

JesusisLord wrote: Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceiveth not in him the lips of knowledge.                      Proverbs 14:7      I'm done with this thread. See you guys back with the music

BaldFriede wrote: Shakespeare wrote: OFF TOPIC: Friederike, we share a birthday . Along with Mozart and Nick Mason  And Lewis Carroll, who wrote "Alice in Wonderland".

oracus wrote: BaldFriede wrote: Jean and I are of a pagan religion. We worship Gaia, the Great Mother. Sorry about that, but i think Gaia worship (it's the greek word for earth ;-)) is just feminism with the cover of religion.

Oh, but worship of the Great Mother was the origin of all religion.
And may I counter your remark with "Judaism, Christianity and Islam are just patriarchy with the cover of religion".


Edited by BaldFriede - August 03 2007 at 21:45

BaldFriede wrote: oracus wrote: BaldFriede wrote: Jean and I are of a pagan religion. We worship Gaia, the Great Mother. Sorry about that, but i think Gaia worship (it's the greek word for earth ;-)) is just feminism with the cover of religion. Oh, but worship of the Great Mother was the origin of all religion.And may I counter your remark with "Judaism, Christianity and Islam are just patriarchy with the cover of religion".

Yes you can, but i do not put a gender label to God :-) So for me is not a patriarchy with the cover of religion

Sorry for the offtopic!

Oh, come on! If you are of the Christian religion of course you do! He is called "father" all the time and not "mother" even once! And the prayer goes "Our father, which art in heaven..."

{That's my opinion, and doesnt represent everyones opinion about God whatsoever } God is an entity, the creator of us, the humans. God devided humans into male and female, each one having some specific characteristics. That's it. The 'Father' is just a sympolic label for God. My opinion is, because women at the times of Jesus Christ had limited freedom, he, Jesus Christ, had to be born as a boy. So, Jesus had to say that God was his father. I don't think that people of Israel at the times would be tolerate a woman to preaching. Or even a man who have says that God was his mother. Is just a name. Also i like to add that God, for me, has mother and father quantities equally. He is like a mother and a father.

In the other hand whenever i say to an whorshiper of Gaia that Earth is a father too, he/she feel offended. So, it is sounds like a feminism movement :-)

I hope my english are good enough to give you the idea :)

Edited by oracus - August 04 2007 at 13:24

This thread could be heading for DNRTM.

The discussion is quite civil at the moment so if the contributors want it moved there so that off-topic discussion can continue then just drop me a PM.