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    Posted: August 01 2007 at 16:29
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Si pero para mi es muy difficil Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 17:59
Sí no puedo leer español!
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Some good soul here to save this text? One last chance before this review is left to the calendas... Confused

SENOGUL — Senogul
Review by Almanzor (Francisco)

4%20stars El disco homónimo de Senogul es un compedio de multitud de visiones musicales hechas realidad bajo una maquinaria propia del rock más revolucionario. La música de Senogul es fresca y rica en matices, tanto por su variedad armónica y rítmica, como por la utilización de multitud de instrumentos y timbres distintos. A pesar de ser una banda relativamente joven, su música suena madura. Y es que en las canciones de Senogul tan pronto suena un tango, como una parte zappiana, como un endiablado groove funky. Una de las cosas que más me gustan del grupo es que no son nada previsibles, y son capaces de darle mil vueltas a una canción de una manera natural y fluida, no como un corta y pega (que tanto se escucha en discos de rock progresivo moderno). Voy a hacer un breve comentario de cada canción. El disco abre con Dr gull 1, un corte dominado por el piano y la guitarra e-bow, a la que se suma otra guitarra más santanera, siempre con un potente bajo funk y una batería firme, que hacen que todo funcione con una facilidad pasmosa. Al final del tema se escucha un coro, entre diabólico y angelical, que ya nos prepara para lo que será el resto del disco, un viaje a través de la música del sigo XX. Esta canción da paso de forma continua (sin separación entre temas) a Racionalidad, un corte también dominado por el sonido de piano del teclista, en el que el bajo suele armonizar los graves del teclado trazando unas líneas que llegan a ser bastante retorcidas. La guitarra tiene un papel melódico en este tema, y la batería me recuerda un poco al estilo de Bruford, sobre todo en la parte central. El Tango mango es un tema épico de más de 12 minutos, que se pasan tan rápido como si fueran 3. Este tema tiene de todo, incluido un virtuoso solo de acordeón. A destacar la fuga intermedia en la que participan el teclado (sonido clave), el bajo y la guitarra eléctrica. Tiene unos momentos de melodía deliciosos, finos, todo sensibilidad, y otros momentos en los que Senogul logra crispar al oyente con sus disonancias, siempre usadas de una manera sabia y maestra. La verbena hermética comienza con una gaita haciendo un fraseo característico de la música asturiana, dando paso a un torbellino de guitarras wah wah y solos arabescos..que dan paso a una inesperada bossa nova de ritmo desefrenado. A destacar la parte zappiana que suena en el interludio, en la que intervienen sobre un walking bass un saxo, dos guitarras y una gralla catalana ..curiosa esta última añadidura, que por un momento me hace recordar a los grandisimos catalanes “Companya Eléctrica Drama”.El final de este tema es puro humor musical…pero eso lo dejo ya para que lo descubra el oyente. El siguiente tema, a pesar de llamarse Microcosmos blues, no tiene nada de blues..o si?, quizás su irónico final. El tema es una especie de desarrollo crimsoniano de un riff arrollador. En su parte intermedia se pueden escuchar una guitarra acústica bellísima, que sirve de base a una flauta emotiva trabajando en un modo muy oriental, y a multitud de percusiones (entre las que destaco el arpa de boca), que le dan un aire a la canción selvático, mágico…que en ocasiones me recuerda a algún trabajo del grandísimo Nana Vasconcelos. Este tema incluye una parte reagge, y algún pasaje cercano a la psicodelia, que demuestra lo bien que dominan los guitarristas sus equipos multiefectos. En resumen, un tema con varios estados de humor, entre dulces y sosegados, y profundamente irritados. El Dr Gull II es una nueva exposición del tema que abre el disco, con un final precioso, amenizado por indescriptibles efectos especiales, que según puedo leer en el libreto se han hecho de manera manual (sin equipamiento electrónico). El tema Gotas de cristal en tu vaso de lluvia nos lleva a un Senogul melódico, romántico, sinfónico y jazzy (especialmente por el gran trabajo del bajista). Un tema para disfrutar. El juego entre la guitarra y el piano es de lo más bonito que escuché en mucho tiempo. La Maha Vishnuda, me imagino que será un juego de palabras en honor a la grandísima banda de fusión de los 70. En cierto modo, este tema me recuerda al tema que abre el disco “inner mounting flame” de Mahavishnu Orchestra, y quizá también al “birds of FIRE”. Digo esto por el estilo de la guitarra, que va creando una base arpegiada que se mantiene a lo largo de casi todo el tema, soleando la otra guitarra por encima, saliendose del tono y volviendo de nuevo, dándole un sentimiento salvaje… todo ello con gran elegancia. Es de destacar también el pequeño solo introductorio de bajo y voz, un recurso muy utilizado en la época de los 70, y que sin duda goza de grandes posibilidades. Este tema deriva a una parte más ritual, que podría recordarme a los buenos discos de Magma, desembocando en una parte mas Weather Report. En cualquier caso, a pesar de que menciono muchas bandas, Senogul tiene una identidad propia muy fuerte. Agua fuego y porexpan (el titulo ya es carismático) empieza con una especie de Acid jazz, a lo James Taylor Quartet, que da paso a fragmentos de todo tipo…rock, blues, jazz,funk. A destacar en este tema el enorme peso del bajista (que abre el tema también con un solo wah wah), y la labor de la sección de metales. Los duelos de guitarra y teclado de la parte blues son increíbles. La guitarra ritmica tiene aquí grandes matices. Sin duda este es un tema que hay que escuchar muchas veces para captar todos los detalles. La batería aquí magistral, los arreglos de batería son muy imaginativos. La travesía de las gaviotas es un temita corto de fusión santanera, muy agradable, sin maldad ninguna, un buen descanso antes de la traca final. En la mulata eléctrica confluyen algunas de los mejores recursos de estos músicos, con solos de guitarra, bajo, piruetas baterísticas y un emocionante trabajo de teclados, que me recuerda tanto por su sonoridad, como por el propio título a Iceberg. El solo de bajo de la parte central del tema es una pasada. En Dr Gull III se cierra este disco, retomando el tema expuesto ya en los otros Dr Gull, aunque con un aire que oscila entre lo folclórico y lo tenebroso. Un broche de oro, para un disco magnífico. Sin duda creo que este disco podría estar entre los 10 más grandes del progresivo español, junto a Iceberg, Iman, Guadalquivir, Alameda, Crack, Gotic, Dharma….tiempo al tiempo, creo que ha nacido un clásico.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:03
I can try but my spanish is pretty bad sometimes. I'll give it a shot but if anyone who speaks Spanish comes along then they can translate.

EDIT: Nevermind I can barely understand the first sentence Embarrassed


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:06
You dont' need much Spanish to understand these euphoric words about the new Senogul: "Sin duda creo que este disco podría estar entre los 10 más grandes del progresivo español, junto a Iceberg, Iman, Guadalquivir, Alameda, Crack, Gotic, Dharma….tiempo al tiempo, creo que ha nacido un clásico." A new Spanish Prog/Prog Andaluz classic Approve ? But I miss the name of Triana Unhappy ....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:08
The review is fine and I PMed and mailed the reviewer warning about the use of the English language to avoid future problems. Pity to lose so much information.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:08
Maybe I can one day learn to translate this since I'm taking more Spanish classes next year.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:12
Too bad... Such a great album deserves those words of praise (which I somehow understood from the review which is most likely good but alas, not in English as PA's rules say).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:13
I will use it to improve my Spanish and I am sure the band has stored this review because their guitarist is a Prog Archives member, isn't it Carakhallo Wink ?
Avestin, I just wrote Senogul that I still haven't received their album after two weeks (send on July 16th) Cry ..


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:15
I'm unable to read Spanish at all, however, I just ran that through the Google Spanish to English translator-bot and it's remarkably readable - and well written IMHO.
 
Quote The disc homónimo of Senogul is compedio of multitude of musical visions made reality under an own machinery of the most revolutionary rock. The music of Senogul is fresh and rich in shades, as much by its harmonic and rythmical variety, as by the use of multitude of instruments and different timbres. In spite of being a relatively young band, its music sounds mature. And it is that in the songs of Senogul so soon it sounds a tango, as a zappiana part, like endiablado groove funky. One of the things that more please me of the foreseeable group is that they are not nothing, and are able to give thousand returns to a song of a natural and fluid way, not as a short one and beats (that as much is listened to in discs of modern progressive rock). I am going to comment out brief of each song. The disc opens with Dr gull 1, a cut dominated by the piano and the guitar e-bow, to which another santanera guitar is added, always with powerful under funk and a firm battery, that cause that everything works with an amazing facility. At the end of the subject a choir is listened to, between diabolic and angelical, that already prepares us for which it will be the rest of the disc, a trip through the music of I follow XX. This song takes step of continuous form (without separation between subjects) to Rationality, a cut also dominated by the sound of piano of the teclista, in which the low one usually harmonizes serious of the keyboard drawing up lines that arrive enough to be twisted. The guitar has a melódico paper in this subject, and the battery remembers a little to me in the style of Bruford, mainly in the central part. The Tango handle is a épico subject of more than 12 minutes, that go so fast as if they were 3. This subject has of everything, including a single virtuoso of accordion. To emphasize the intermediate flight in that they participate the keyboard (key sound), low and the electrical guitar. It has delicious, fine moments of melodía, all sensitivity, and other moments at which Senogul manages to irritate to the listener with its dissonances, always used of a wise and masterful way. The hermetic verbena begins with a gaita doing a fraseo characteristic of Asturian music, giving to passage to an eddy of guitars wah wah and single arabesque. .que takes step unexpected bossa Nova of desefrenado rate. To emphasize the zappiana part that it sounds in interludio, in which they take part on walking bass saxo, two guitars and one gralla Catalan. .curiosa this last addition, that for a moment makes me remember to the Catalan grandisimos “Electrical Companya Drama”. The end of this subject is pure musical humor… but that I leave it already so that it discovers the listener to it. The following subject, in spite of being called Microcosm blues, does not have anything of blues. .o if? , perhaps its ironic end. The subject is a species of crimsoniano development of riff sweeping. In its intermediate part they are possible to be listened to a gorgeous acoustic guitar, that serves as touching base to one flauta working in a very Eastern way, and multitude of percussions (between which I emphasize the mouth ARPA), that gives an air him to the selvático song, magical… that sometimes remembers me to some work of grandísimo Nana Vasconcelos. This subject includes a part reagge, and some passage near psicodelia, that it demonstrates the good that dominate to the guitarists their equipment multieffects. In summary, a subject with several states of humor, between calmed candies and, and deeply irritated. The Dr Gull II is a new exhibition of the subject that opens the disc, with a precious end, brightened up by indescriptibles special effects, that according to I can read in the libreto have become of manual way (without electronic equipment). The subject Drops of crystal in your rain glass takes to a melódico, romantic, symphonic Senogul and jazzy to us (specially by the great work of the bear). A subject to enjoy. The game between the guitar and the piano is of prettiest than I listened in long time. The Maha Vishnuda, I imagine that band of fusion of the 70 will be a game of words in honor to grandísima. In certain way, this subject remembers me to the subject that opens the disc “to inner mounting flame” of Mahavishnu Orchestra, and perhaps also to “birds of FIRE”. I say this of the sort of the guitar, that is creating a arpegiada base that superficially stays throughout almost all the subject, soleando the other guitar, leaving the tone and returning again, giving to him to a wild feeling… all it with great elegance. It is to also emphasize small single introductorio of low and voice, a resource very used at the time of the 70, and that without a doubt enjoys great possibilities. This subject derives to one more a ritual part, than it could remember me to good discs of Magma, ending at a part but Weather Report. In any case, although I mention many bands, Senogul has an own identity very hard. Water fire and porexpan (I title already is charismatic) begins with a species of Acid jazz, to the James Taylor Quartet, who takes step to fragments of everything tipo…rock, blues, jazz,funk. To emphasize in this subject the enormous weight of the bear (who also opens to the subject with single wah wah), and the work of the metal section. The duels of guitar and keyboard of the part blues are incredible. The rythmical guitar has great shades here. Without a doubt this it is a subject that there is to often listen to catch all the details. The here skillful battery, the battery adjustments are very imaginative. The passage of the gulls is a short temita of santanera fusion, very pleasant, without badness no, a good rest before the final traca. In the electrical mulata some of the best resources of these musicians, with single of guitar, low, piruetas baterísticas and an exciting work of keyboards, that remember to me as much by their loudness, as by the own title to Iceberg come together. The single one of under the central part of the subject is a last one. In Dr Gull III this disc is closed, retaking the subject exposed already in the other Dr Gull, although with an air that oscillate between the folkloric thing and the tenebrous thing. A finishing touch, for a magnificent disc. Without a doubt I believe that this disc could be between 10 greater of the progressive Spanish, next to Iceberg, Magnet, Guadalquivir, Tree-lined avenue, Crack, Gotic, Dharma….time to the time, I believe that a classic one has been born


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:16
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

I will use it to improve my Spanish and I am sure the band has stored this review because their guitarist is a Prog Archives member, isn't it Carakhallo Wink ?
Avestin, I just wrote Senogul that I still haven't received their album after two weeks (send on July 16th) Cry ..
 
I keep it stored too... if no Spanish-speaker appears to do the job, well, maybe I'll do. Embarrassed


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:19
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

I will use it to improve my Spanish and I am sure the band has stored this review because their guitarist is a Prog Archives member, isn't it Carakhallo Wink ?
Avestin, I just wrote Senogul that I still haven't received their album after two weeks (send on July 16th) Cry ..
 
I keep it stored too... if no Spanish-speaker appears to do the job, well, maybe I'll do. Embarrassed
 
 
You speak Spanish??? Shocked                                                        LOL
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:21
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:25
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

I will use it to improve my Spanish and I am sure the band has stored this review because their guitarist is a Prog Archives member, isn't it Carakhallo Wink ?
Avestin, I just wrote Senogul that I still haven't received their album after two weeks (send on July 16th) Cry ..
 
I keep it stored too... if no Spanish-speaker appears to do the job, well, maybe I'll do. Embarrassed
 
 
You speak Spanish??? Shocked
 
 
 
 
 
Very close to Portuguese (we all can read each other with little difficulty) but in fact I'm able to speak the language on a day-to-day basis. Smile
 
Spanish:  El disco homónimo de Senogul es un compedio de multitud de visiones musicales hechas realidad bajo una maquinaria propia del rock más revolucionario.
 
Portuguese: O disco homônimo de Senogul é um compêndio de múltiplas visões musicais tornadas realidade sob a maquinaria própria do rock mais revolucionário.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:25
Great job Darqdean Thumbs%20Up, did you use Bablefish? I own their debut CD entitled Transitos, most of the songs on that album are now on the new album in renewed versions but reading your translation I miss something about my absolute highlight La Mulata Electrica, Prog Andaluz at its best! I am very curious about this and will ask the band for more information.
 
Si he recibido el nuevo disco de Senogul voy a escribir una critica para Prog Archives, soy muy curioso, hasta pronto Wink
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:28
it was Google's Language tools:
 
 
I *think* that given time I could probably clean that up, if the original poster was interested in some help.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:28
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

 
Very close to Portuguese (we all can read each other with little difficulty) but in fact I'm able to speak the language on a day-to-day basis. Smile
 
Was just kidding... I have distant relatives (through marriage) in Brazil (in Rio and Sao Paolo) and all speak quite good Spanish so I reckoned you must do as well. They also speak good French (and have a better accent than some other Francophile friends of mine...).
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 18:32
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

it was Google's Language tools:
 
 
I *think* that given time I could probably clean that up, if the original poster was interested in some help.
 
It happened 'cause the original review is well-written, Dean... if you want to clean it up, feel free (we did it for other reviews in other languages that appeared here). Star
 
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