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Points: 12288 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2007 at 21:35
Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

@ Ivan,
 
The following are here:
     7.     Wiermann & Vogel (Quaterna Requiem) (Brazil) Well, Quaterna are here, so I'm not sure what to make of this. Is this a seperate group?
  
 
 
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Elisa Wirmann & Kleber Vogel are QR members (in fact, keyboardist Wirmann is one of the few woman band leaders around). The duo produced their album and registered with their names but it appears in the QR webpage as a QR's release... IMO this album should be added under the QR umbrella just like Mike Portnoy's was added under the LTE entry. Smile
 
 
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Then I guess we have many unfamiliar Folk bands to check or receive information about if somebody is familiar, if I'm not wrong we don't have in Prog Archives:
 
1.     Waak Waak Jungi (Australia)

 


Iván, I would assume this is the band you are talking about http://www.waakwaakjungi.com/? If so I don't think they are suitable for this site, but this is my opinion, best to check it out. There are some sound samples under audio.
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 31 2007 at 21:46
Thanks Guigo, I knew you would reply in this thread because you PMd me about this same issue.
 
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Quote Iván, I would assume this is the band you are talking about http://www.waakwaakjungi.com/? If so I don't think they are suitable for this site, but this is my opinion, best to check it out. There are some sound samples under audio.
 
Thanks for the interest BV,. I don't know much about Prog Folk and of course much less about Waak Waak Jungi (Only heard one song in the album), this thread was started by HT to wake people, there's lot of prog out there that could be added, sometimes in a simple compilation like this album.
 
If only 2 or 3 bands are really 100% Prog and can be added, it would be great, at this moment and thanks to Guigo we know there's an album that should be added to Quaterna Requiem.
 
If Waak Waak Jungi is not Prog and you can provide valuable information, great, because the last thing we want is to add a wrong band.
 
But I hope somebody knows this bands and can tell us if one or more are Prog, then in coordination with Sean, they can be added.
 
I wish we could do this in daily bases, but wioth the Symphonic work, we have our free time limited.
 
Thanks for the interest.
 
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^^^ No worries, send the site through to Hugues, as I also know little about prog folk myself. Some more knowledgeable views would be beneficial.  
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Points: 20403 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 01 2007 at 04:34
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Maybe somebody is interested to search as James, so here is the info provided in the album about this artists as a first step:
 
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1.     Waak Waak Jungi emerged from cultural exchanges between artists and musicians from Ramingining, in north-east Arnhem Land and Christmas Hills, in rural Victoria.

"Through nearly twenty years of contact, this diverse group has evolved into a dynamic musical force - embracing the indigenous and white aspects of shared culture.

"For the members of Waak Waak Jungi, this exchange has taken the form of musical collaboration, resulting in stunning performances and recordings."

"All Gone" is from Crow Fire Music

2.     Jose Luis Fernandez is one of those amazing performers who are capable of continuously transforming their style. In that way, each of the albums that have ever been released by Jose Luis sounds very fresh, at least," writes Vitaly Menshikov of Progressor.net of Ledesma's sixth album Al Filo. This Mexican keyboardist got his start in the band Nirgal Vallis, releasing one album, Ymurio La Tarde.

The first release under his own name was 1991's Universos Imaginarios, followed in 1992 by Evos Luz. It wasn't until 1996 that a third album, Motivos Para Perderse was released (though he joined Alquimia on 1996's Lenguas Muertas in between). This was followed by 1997's Extractos, about which E-Prog's Mark Fonda writes "[T]his is a fabulous orchestral, pastoral, symphonic and multi-faceted endeavor... along the lines of After Crying from Hungary or Hecenia from France... ". 2000 saw two releases, Sol Central and Dicen Que Somos Dioses Y Nos Sonamos Hombres. 2002 saw the release of Al Filo, and in 2003, Designios. On most releases, Margarita Botello has joined him on vocals, synths and percussion. 

3.     Steve Warner (Australia): Living on Australia’s southern coast, on Port Phillip Bay, Steve’s music reflects the inner life and the natural world - especially the sea.

His first, self-titled album from 1974 was recorded on the southern island of Tasmania. It’s complex textures and harmonies, built up layer upon layer, were created with Steve singing and playing all instruments. The songs are reflective and fragile.

His most recent album Sketches Of Paradise shows a marked change in approach. He plays guitar, guitar, and more acoustic guitar and invites many of his favourite musicians - from Melbourne’s rich multi-cultural scene - along for the ride. Players from the jazz scene, from the acoustic/gypsy tradition and from the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra work seamlessly together. The music is outgoing and optimistic but rooted deeply and firmly in a broad musical life. It’s Latin, African, Carribean … it even drifts dreamily into an Eric Satie inspired piece, then back again … it’s an exciting mix.

4.     Styrbjorn Bergelt & Roland Hakansson: Styrbjörn Bergelt has since the mid-seventies recorded five albums featuring medieval and traditional folk music. He is also known for bringing a revival to the bowed harp.

"Tolv Man" (i.e., Twelve Men) refers to the old legend of "Twelve Thieves In The Forest," also applying to the idea of a bear having the strength of twelve men put together. This track has been lifted off Styrbjörn Bergelt's and Roland Hĺkansson's album Randalin, which was released by MNW on vinyl in 1986. The intention was to combine ancient Nordic instruments such as bowed harp with synthesizers and contemporary equipment.

For more information about Styrbjörn, check into: www.tongang.se/katalog/bildbirka.html & viking.hgo.se/Books/Music.html; Styrbjörn Bergelt passed away in February 2006.

5.     Robert Erdesz: Róbert Erdész is the keyboardist with Hungarian progressive rock band Solaris, a band named for a Stanislaw Lem novel that got its start in 1980, releasing in 1984 their debut album The Martian Chronicles (a title taken from another SF author, Ray Bradbury). Though the band went their separate ways by the early 1990s, they were reunited by agreeing to perform at Progfest 1995. They later performed at the Rio Art Rock Festival. Guitarist Istvan Cziglan died in 1998, but can be heard on the band's second album, released in 1999, Nostradamus

In 2000 Erdész released Meeting Point a progressive world music CD that featured fellow Solaris members Attila Kollŕr on flutes, tambourine and vocals, Lŕszlň Gömör on drums, as well as Jŕnos Varga and Péter Gerendŕs on guitars, Ferenc Muck on saxophone, Ŕron Eredics on tambourine, Mihŕly Borbely on hautbois, Tamŕs Erdesz on mouth harp, and Mŕrta Sebestyen, Zsuzsa Ullmann, Ildokň Keresztes, Emil Tňth, and György Bňdi Varga on vocals.

6. Sabah Habas Mustapha & the Jugala Allstars is lead by bassist and vocalist Sabah Habas, also known from 3 Mustaphas 3 (and known in progressive rock circles as Colin Bass). The first release by Sabah Habas was 1994's Denpasar Moon, which featured top Jakartan artists in the Dangdut Music scene. In 1997, Jalan Kopo was released and included those would soon become the Jugala AllStars: Ismet Ruchimat on kacapi (a zither like instrument), Agus Supriawan on khendang (a "double-headed drum played with hands and feet, together with three smaller drums known as ketipung."), Asep Maung on suling (a bamboo flute) and Yadi Pituek on violin. Later Tetti Yani Mugiono joined on vocals and Zenir on khendang with the release of the third album So La Li in 1999. So La Li "was voted one of the best albums of 2000 in Froots magazine (UK) and led to the nomination of the group for the BBC Radio 3 Awards for World Music (Asia/Pacific category) in 2001. The Jugala Allstars embarked on their first European tour in June 2001 including appearances at the Roskilde Festival in Denmark and the Rudolstadt Festival in Germany."
 
 
 
Maybe this could lead to additions?
 
Any volunteer to search?
 
Iván
 
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I was in Hungary recently and bought 3 LP's of prog rock or fusion from the local bands Mini, Joy and Supergroup. The guy at the record shop suggested them to me and also told me some things about them but does anyone know any deatails? Thank you!

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Originally posted by mandrake_gr mandrake_gr wrote:

I was in Hungary recently and bought 3 LP's of prog rock or fusion from the local bands Mini, Joy and Supergroup. The guy at the record shop suggested them to me and also told me some things about them but does anyone know any deatails? Thank you!

 
I will search because I'm in love with Eastern Europe Prog Scenario.
 
Thanks for the contribution.
 
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I would love to learn more about A.C.T. Their website doesn't say a whole lot and their wikipage is barebones. For example, what does A.C.T stand for?
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by mandrake_gr mandrake_gr wrote:

I was in Hungary recently and bought 3 LP's of prog rock or fusion from the local bands Mini, Joy and Supergroup. The guy at the record shop suggested them to me and also told me some things about them but does anyone know any deatails? Thank you!

 
I will search because I'm in love with Eastern Europe Prog Scenario.
 
Thanks for the contribution.
 
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I have no idea of this Supergroup yet.
There might be many "Joys" but my instinct says that this Joy is not really prog:http:\\joy.uw.hu
 
Török Ádám & Mini, in many aspects similar to Jethro Tull, led by the flute player Ádám Török, strongly blues rooted music.
 
www.torokadam.hu
 
 
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Originally posted by Norbert Norbert wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by mandrake_gr mandrake_gr wrote:

I was in Hungary recently and bought 3 LP's of prog rock or fusion from the local bands Mini, Joy and Supergroup. The guy at the record shop suggested them to me and also told me some things about them but does anyone know any deatails? Thank you!

 
I will search because I'm in love with Eastern Europe Prog Scenario.
 
Thanks for the contribution.
 
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I have no idea of this Supergroup yet.
There might be many "Joys" but my instinct says that this Joy is not really prog:http:\\joy.uw.hu
 
Török Ádám & Mini, in many aspects similar to Jethro Tull, led by the flute player Ádám Török, strongly blues rooted music.
 
www.torokadam.hu
 
 
 
No. It is not that Joy. The album name is "cross culture" and is supposedly led by one of the best Hungarian jazz guitarists. I can't remember his name right now. I didn't have the time to listen to the record yet but it might be more jazz than fusion.
Supergroup is something of a mixture of Hungary's best rock and jazz players. I think the most famous must be the sax player Des Lazslo. I don't know the rest.
You are correct about Mini.
Thank you for your time anyway.. Smile
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Great job guys! You really got some great discussion going here. Kudos.

Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Originally posted by LeInsomniac LeInsomniac wrote:

About Zappa i can tell you this, start with Overnite-sensations and from on then if you like what you hear its up to you. 


I believe ONE SIZE FITS ALL would be a better bet. Not only is it stronger and more varied than OVERNITE SENSATION, it's also one of the true symphonic prog masterpieces, easily on the same level as CLOSE TO THE EDGE or FOXTROT, and overlooked ONLY because Zappa's mainly known (rightly or wrongly) as an avant-rock composer. You're bound to like OSFA - and after that you can let our reviews section guide you!
As for that Canterbury Top 10: it's simply astonishing!!! Sometimes Mojo do get things right.


While "One Size Fits All" may be a superior album, I still have to agree that "Overnite Sensation," along with "Apostrophe," are the best places to start. They are both accessible, and humorous. They also show the quirky musical genius. It is easy to expand from there.

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Gentle Giant is a band that i have seen mentioned several times, seems to be very popular but it is still unknown for me, i would like you to suggest me an album to start, and if you could tell me what kind of prog do they play, i would be happy.
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Originally posted by Samir Samir wrote:

Gentle Giant is a band that i have seen mentioned several times, seems to be very popular but it is still unknown for me, i would like you to suggest me an album to start, and if you could tell me what kind of prog do they play, i would be happy.

 
Just listen to the streams here available. Maybe just begin with the first album. My favorite is Octopus.
 
 
 
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Let's give Samir a little overview too. GG used a lot of medieval folk themes, and very odd rhythmic changes. One listen to "Talybont" and "Knots," and you will know what I mean. This does not mean that they are as out there as something by Zappa, or Magma either. They are always able to retain an accessible quality. The earlier albums are more straight rock based. It is a bit later where they become more adventurous. "Free Hand" might be a good place to start. If it doesn't catch right away, give it time. It took me a while, and now I am a huge GG fan.
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Originally posted by bhikkhu bhikkhu wrote:

Let's give Samir a little overview too. GG used a lot of medieval folk themes, and very odd rhythmic changes. One listen to "Talybont" and "Knots," and you will know what I mean. This does not mean that they are as out there as something by Zappa, or Magma either. They are always able to retain an accessible quality. The earlier albums are more straight rock based. It is a bit later where they become more adventurous. "Free Hand" might be a good place to start. If it doesn't catch right away, give it time. It took me a while, and now I am a huge GG fan.
 
Thank you very much, i checked the videos of them here, i believe i should first listen to a complete album, because i liked them but it was kind of strange (different) music for me.
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I love Sabah Habas Mustapha and have listened to him since his stint in 3 Mustaphas 3 in the 80's. I can not conceive him as having anything to do with Progressive rock but every kind of music under the sun will eventually be lumped together and called Prog on this site whether they are or not. Go ahead include them.
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Could somebody enlighten me about Laurie Anderson? Is she even prog related or just art rock? She has made quite experimental records and i have one of her albums somewhere deep down in my record collection.
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Originally posted by meinmatrix meinmatrix wrote:

Could somebody enlighten me about Laurie Anderson? Is she even prog related or just art rock? She has made quite experimental records and i have one of her albums somewhere deep down in my record collection.


I would put her more in the category of performance art.

Please guys, I appreciate all of the participation, but let's keep this about progressive rock. There are plenty of artists listed here that many people don't know about.
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Can someone tell me about Bacamarte? They're #7 on the chart, but I've never even seen them mentioned on the boards.
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Bacamarte was a Brazilian prog band that cut a one-off album "Depois Do Fim" in 1983. It's a masterpiece of mellow South American progressive rock, with symphonic textures, jazzy edges and plenty of folkish guitar work, with more than half the tracks being instrumentals. The music is complex, organic and involving, but never ostentatious, and the vocals from Jane Duboc are quite superb.

The band much later issued a second album, which I haven't heard, but based on the bonus track included on the CD reissue of "Depois Do Fim", I wouldn't expect much of it. Jane Duboc has also released numerous solo albums, but be careful - outside Bacamarte, she was a sort of Brazilian answer to Elaine Paige, issuing middle-of-the-road LPs of classic film themes and that sort of stuff.
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