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    Posted: June 24 2007 at 22:54
Wish you were here, does not deserve to be in the #2 spot!
 
In fact, I seriously does not belong in the top ten!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
WYWH is a great album, but not a great prog album! A five song album, with only three prog songs, in the #2 spot of the top 100 prog albums of all time is ludicrus! I will not stand for this! Stop this foolishness!
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Well I would certainly say that there are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many Genesis albums in the Top 10. That is much more of a problem for me then having Wish You Were Here at #2. I'm not sure how the rankings are worked out but I'm pretty sure it's based on overall review ratings rather then by commitee with criteria and such.
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Finally... someone agrees with me in that WWYH is nowhere near as good as people think it is. It's not bad, but far from revolutionary, or memorable for that matter. I'm not upset because of the list, because I've realized that it's really no resource, but still, WWYH is one of the most overrated albums on this site, and I'm glad that I'm not alone in thinking this.
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Originally posted by Jeff Schu Jeff Schu wrote:

Well I would certainly say that there are wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too many Genesis albums in the Top 10. That is much more of a problem for me then having Wish You Were Here at #2. I'm not sure how the rankings are worked out but I'm pretty sure it's based on overall review ratings rather then by commitee with criteria and such.

 
No, everyone votes five stars because it's a good album, but Not a good PROG album!
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I personally like Animals better, but you can't deny WYWH is a top-notch album

also, who cares about the top ten, prog was never a popularity contest
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Points: 65268 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2007 at 23:19
Originally posted by puma puma wrote:

I personally like Animals better, but you can't deny WYWH is a top-notch albumalso, who cares about the top ten, prog was never a popularity contest



couldn't have said it better




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^^ Thats not the point, the album is very non-prog and shouldnt even be a major factor of our little popularity contest, and what if some noob joins the archives and see's WYWH in the number two position, he might go out and get it and believe thats how good prog is gonna get. And it's barely prog in itself!!!



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What is prog and what is not is a matter of opinion. It's a well-constructed, quasi-conceptual album with innovative musicianship. Plus, how many "prog" songs does Pink Floyd even have? I don't even like using that word to describe music
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Originally posted by schizoid_man77 schizoid_man77 wrote:

^ Thats not the point, the album is very non-prog and shouldnt even be a major factor of our little popularity contest, and what if some noob joins the archives and see's WYWH in the number two position, he might go out and get it and believe thats how good prog is gonna get. And it's barely prog in itself!!!



Why does that matter?
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Points: 2819 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2007 at 23:24
Well....

- The album is on here...so just rate it as an album.
- Theres been so many debates here on the definition of prog itself...so who can really question if its a prog album or not.
- Theres a lot of genesis and yes non-prog songs on their top albums...
- Its not a big deal.
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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2007 at 23:25
^^ Because it's a top 100 PROG album rating thing. DUH!!!Big%20smile

Edited by schizoid_man77 - June 24 2007 at 23:28
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I just think this album is a weak point in what would have been a golden age for Pink Floyd, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's not a prog album.  I think it shouldn't be on there just because I don't like it very much and that point would be better suited for, say, Animals.
It's a prog album, and I'm not too fond of it, but many others are, so there's nothing you can do but accept that it's so highly rated...and call it vastly overrated. Wink
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Points: 65268 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2007 at 23:31
but not more overrated in the real world than Dark Side..
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Honestly I didn't even notice WYWH's position on the list until you brought it up Tongue

the moral of this story is:

"newbies, don't get your taste in music from a list"

it's a reflection of what people on the forum think, so I'm cool with it being up there. Better than a classic rock radio station posting a Prog Top 100 and telling us what to think.

Moral of this story #2:

"I don't care what radio station you work for, Toto isn't a prog band"
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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2007 at 23:32
Ermm it's there cause a lot of people like it.

Me, I used to adore it (and Pink Floyd, but I've moved on to other tastes, mostly) but now I find it--and the SoYcD especially) too have too much of a cozy and cuddly feeling that does not suit Floyd at all.
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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2007 at 23:34
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

but not more overrated in the real world than Dark Side..
 
Too trueStern%20Smile
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I love WYWH. I still decide whether I like it as much or better than Animals, but I guess that doesn't really matter. As for it being prog, to paraphrase a famous quote "I don't know what Prog is, but I know what I like." Genesis still sucks though.
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Dude, stop freaking out over that list. It's a nice addition to the site based on collective ratings. And it's good for n00bs. But other than that, don't take it so seriously! It's not like an official declaration on the "best" prog albums. Stern%20Smile

So stop complaining about the list. Pinch

But for the record, WYWH is an awesome album. I wouldn't put it an #2, but whatever. Talk about the four most haunting notes in music.

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Originally posted by Arsillus Arsillus wrote:

Talk about the four most haunting notes in music.



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WYWH with Atom Heart Mother is my fav Floyd album
 
But there is a lot of dross in the top 100, only one zeuhl album and no Krautrock! the top hundred like someone said is not the best of the best nor is it truly representative, just a rough beginners guide and thats why the Snowgoose is there.



  
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