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The Lost Chord 
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 Topic: "Timelessness" is irrelevant.
Posted: April 27 2007 at 21:07 |
I said it! Yes, it is completely irrelevant. It doesnt matter if an album is "Timeless" or not, some people, myself included, LOVE the sound of grainy audio and old instruements, music that sounds like it was made FOR a time period also. I also do not believe there is SUCH A THING as timelessness....Everything belongs to a time, not everything needs to "stand the test of time", some things are meant to meld with the power of their time and are further beautified by that! For instance, music, prog, golden age prog from the 60's and 70's...none of it is timeless, all of it is eternal, from an era that gave birth to it and deserves credit.
Timeless? Bollocks! (as british people would say, especially Tony R)
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JJLehto
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 21:43 |
I wouldn't say I "like" bad quality...but if the music is good, then it dosn't matter to me.
Kind of along the point you were making?
Maybe?
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 21:47 |
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totally!!!
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JJLehto
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 21:50 |
Niice, well then I have to say:
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 22:06 |
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 22:08 |
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 22:10 |
That means, good post 
gee, the lack of understanding amazes me!  ...  |
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 22:13 |
I am Th Lost Cause afterall... 
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JJLehto
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 22:14 |
People, besides me, enjoying a TLC post?
 This world is truly going mad |
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 22:15 |
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The Learning Channel is good and all, but Tasty Little Chewies are way better!
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: April 27 2007 at 22:39 |
LMFAO!!!!
BTW, im crying hysterically right now after watching Justin Hayward perfroming New Horizons on the DVD An Audience with Justin Hayward. I dont understand why people dont get this emotional for this music, this is amazing to me, pure brilliance!
Edited by The Lost Chord - April 27 2007 at 22:39
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 28 2007 at 06:30 |
Lost Chord, it's good to have back here! 
Good thread. I do believe I'm in agreement with you. Music belongs to a time, eternal through it's excellence, although that is of coirse subjective. But, 'timelessness' is indeed a failry meaningless concept.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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tuxon
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Posted: April 28 2007 at 08:27 |
timeless music is an oxymoron, since music is "sound organised in time"
If however timeless music means music not specific for a zeitgeist, or music that doesn't need a specific time period/era to be enjoyed than a timelessness can be heard, however of course maybe the timespan of the era can be very large.so in our lifetime the music appears timeless, while infact it's specific for our century or eon.
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I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
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magnus
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Posted: April 28 2007 at 08:39 |
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The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes
Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie
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Blacksword
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Posted: April 28 2007 at 12:19 |
^Yes, thats a fairly good point really.. 
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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JJLehto
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Posted: April 28 2007 at 12:58 |
 tuxon wrote:
timeless music is an oxymoron, since music is "sound organised in time"
If however timeless music means music not specific for a zeitgeist, or music that doesn't need a specific time period/era to be enjoyed than a timelessness can be heard, however of course maybe the timespan of the era can be very large.so in our lifetime the music appears timeless, while infact it's specific for our century or eon. |
Can't just cut TLC a break can you?
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progismylife
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Posted: April 28 2007 at 13:08 |
I hope this thread isn't about how I mentioned in my review of King Crimson - Starless and Bible Black that it is a timeless masterpiece. 
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Posted: April 28 2007 at 13:15 |
If timeless means being a product of a determined period of time......I agree with The Lost Chord (Never imagined saying this  must be a secondary effect of the Vicodin I had to take for 2 days due to my back pain  ) all the music is a product of a moment in evolution and the historical circumstances that surround the artistic event.
If timeless is understood as a a work with trascendence vocation or in other words that can be appreciated by the people of the 70's, 80's, 90's or 2050's.....then I believe there is music that will pass the test of time and of course will turn into timeless works.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - April 28 2007 at 13:20
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progismylife
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Posted: April 28 2007 at 13:17 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
If timeless is understood that is a a work with trascendence vocatoion or in other words that can be appreciated by the people of the 70's, 80's, 90's or 2050's.....then I believe there is music that will pass the test of time and of course will turn into timeless works.
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That's what I think of when someone mentions timeless music. Something that does not sound dated or could be attributed to a certain time period by its sound.
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The Lost Chord
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Posted: April 28 2007 at 13:49 |
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There are certainly more than one way to interpret "Timeless" im sure, but im just ranting more in agreement of the oxymoronic meaning. But, I agree, there is a way to be "timeless", thats true
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"Timelessness" is irrelevant.
