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micky
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 21:54 |
NaturalScience wrote:
yessongs is not even my favorite live album by Yes.
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mine either.... give me Yesshows anyday...
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Padraic
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 21:34 |
yessongs is not even my favorite live album by Yes.
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micky
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 21:30 |
no way... obviously for rock.. but not even for prog...
off the top of my head...
Space Ritual or Live at Carnegie Hall
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moonlapse
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 20:54 |
pero wrote:
My fav woud be
...and non prog:
Hendrix - Band of gypsies, Woodstock, Atlanta, San Diego, Berkley
Wishbone ash - Live dates
Uriah heep live
Deep purple - Made in Japan
Mountain - Twin peaks
Johnny winter - Live and
Humble pie - Live at Fillmore
Allman brothers band - Live at Fillmore
Taste - Live at Isle of Wight
Grand funk railroad - Live
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Glad to see Johnny's album get mentioned here  First album I ever bought, and still listen to it today. Great stuff.
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andu
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 13:04 |
Yessongs production may not the best... But my first encounter with Yes was by "Live at QPR". Now THAT's a poor sound. It made me lose at least a year for getting into Yes. Maybe that's the reason I love Yessongs, but it also stands by itself as a great live album.
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Bj-1
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 11:32 |
Great album, though not my favorite live album of all time. Still a great listen!
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 10:25 |
I do enjoy "Yessongs" quite a bit, but best live album ever? That title goes to Peter Gabriel, "PLays LIve." Another contender is "Stop Making Sense."
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 10:08 |
Yessongs is great. One of my favorite live albums. To add:
Rush - Exit...Stage Left (I love the rawness)
DT - 5 Years in a Livetime (the cover song snipettes are cool)
PT - RockPalast and Arriving Somewhere (these guys CAN jam)
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 10:03 |
pero wrote:
No it's regular DVD (120 min). They performed half of Thick as a brick, and half of Passion play my two fav albums.
Martin "Lancelot " Barre was in form of his life
Jethro Tull Golders Green Hippodrome February 10, 1977
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Still a bootleg as the whole list on that site seems to be...
Best way is to click on the link and check out the text in the box of your bottom toolbar.
But I have seen some of these performances sold openly.
Edited by Sean Trane - March 08 2007 at 06:53
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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fuxi
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 09:51 |
Chris Stacey wrote:
Whoever said you cannot find perfection within imperfection?????
or enjoy the sweet repetitive sound of an artist????
Just a theory I believe in, in that you do not need a prefect sounding record to make it a masterpiece. I think Louie Armstrong sounds close to perfect, craters, crackles and hisses included, different genre I know. |
Of course you can enjoy imperfections; that's why I praised Yes's spontaneity. Many of Howe's guitar embellishments during the live 'Close to the Edge' are improvised. Some sound more convincing than others, but at least he's TRYING, following the flow of the music, letting himself go...
And like you, I enjoy live jazz CDs, which are full of experiment...
But sloppy playing, when the playing actually needs to be precise and 'orchestral' (as on 'And You and I'), I merely find disappointing!
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Norbert
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 06:54 |
Excellent live album, I would not declare it the best ever, but really great.
Shortcomings in recording and mixing don't disturb me really, the music and the performance is incredible.
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 04:25 |
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[ But to call YESSONGS flawless? The band mess up the mellotron climaxes in 'And You and I' - which they also did when I first saw them live, during the GOING FOR THE ONE tour, in Antwerp. Must have taken them a number of years to get those right! (On the YES SYMPHONIC DVD, with orchestra, everything finally fits perfectly.)
I'm afraid I can think of quite a few live albums which are more convincing and more exciting than YESSONGS. But don't let this spoil your fun! It's absolutely true that you can tell how audacious these guys were... |
Whoever said you cannot find perfection within imperfection?????
or enjoy the sweet repetitive sound of an artist????
Just a theory I believe in, in that you do not need a prefect sounding record to make it a masterpiece. I think Louie Armstrong sounds close to perfect, craters, crackles and hisses included, different genre I know. [/QUOTE]
Hi Chris -
I think I would (and do) enjoy the imperfections in a Louie Armstrong album rather than some of the poorer quality "live"albums out there. However, I do have to concede that "perfection can be found within imperfection". Take KC's "Earthbound" - a gem of a live recording (KC's first live release) despite that it sounds that it was recorded on the fly. True Fan's of the group will forgive them anything including the imperfect album here and there 
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 04:10 |
[ But to call YESSONGS flawless? The band mess up the mellotron climaxes in 'And You and I' - which they also did when I first saw them live, during the GOING FOR THE ONE tour, in Antwerp. Must have taken them a number of years to get those right! (On the YES SYMPHONIC DVD, with orchestra, everything finally fits perfectly.) I'm afraid I can think of quite a few live albums which are more convincing and more exciting than YESSONGS. But don't let this spoil your fun! It's absolutely true that you can tell how audacious these guys were...[/QUOTE]
Whoever said you cannot find perfection within imperfection?????
or enjoy the sweet repetitive sound of an artist????
Just a theory I believe in, in that you do not need a prefect sounding record to make it a masterpiece. I think Louie Armstrong sounds close to perfect, craters, crackles and hisses included, different genre I know.
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valravennz
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 03:51 |
I have found "Yessongs" a major disappointment, in quality of sound rather than content. I admire your enthusiasm for the album, Giant HogWeed, but like many others it unfortunately does not rate highly amongst my favourite "live" albums - most of which have been mentioned in previous posts. Special mention goes to Deep Purple - Made in Japan and Kansas Two For the Show. I would also add Camel's "A Live Record" to the list of great live recorded albums. Cheers
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fuxi
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 03:47 |
As far as I can tell, YESSONGS is a pretty accurate reflection of what the band must have sounded like in the early seventies. If they sound muddled, it's not so much the production, it's the way they played. You can tell from the Yessongs movie: same era, different performances, similar way of playing.
When I first bought YESSONGS (the album), back in the seventies, only a few weeks after I'd discovered CLOSE TO THE EDGE, I had to swallow hard. 'Close to the Edge' itself, for example, sounded so much rougher and more chaotic than the studio recording! But I soon came to enjoy the live performances for their own sake, and for their spontaneity.
These days, I only ever play the YESSONGS versions of 'Yours is no disgrace' and 'Starship Trooper'. I love Steve's extended guitar break on 'Yours is no disgrace'. The film version sounds completely different. I wish Yes would/could follow Robert Fripp's example and give us a boxed set with two or three unreleased performances of this track from the same tour. (I've never bought Yes bootlegs.) 'Starship Trooper' also sounds majestic, and its grand finale has never been bettered.
But to call YESSONGS flawless? The band mess up the mellotron climaxes in 'And You and I' - which they also did when I first saw them live, during the GOING FOR THE ONE tour, in Antwerp. Must have taken them a number of years to get those right! (On the YES SYMPHONIC DVD, with orchestra, everything finally fits perfectly.)
I'm afraid I can think of quite a few live albums which are more convincing and more exciting than YESSONGS. But don't let this spoil your fun! It's absolutely true that you can tell how audacious these guys were...
Edited by fuxi - March 07 2007 at 03:49
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pero
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 03:26 |
No it's regular DVD (120 min). They performed half of Thick as a brick, and half of Passion play my two fav albums.
Martin "Lancelot " Barre was in form of his life
Jethro Tull Golders Green Hippodrome February 10, 1977
Edited by pero - March 07 2007 at 03:49
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 03:14 |
pero wrote:
Jethro tull - Live at hyppodrome london, 1977
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Hey Pero - what's this then - is it a bootleg?
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pero
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 03:03 |
Yessongs are not my pick as best live album. My fav woud be
In prog:
King Crimson - Earthbond
Zappa - Roxy and elsewhere, Best band you never heard in your life
ELP - Ladies and gentleman
Jethro tull - Live at hyppodrome london, 1977
Pink floyd - Pompeii
Mahavishnu orchestra - From nothingness to eternity
Focus live at rainbow theatre
Gentle giant - Live at BBC
Traffic - On the road
Colosseum - Live
and non prog:
Hendrix - Band of gypsies, Woodstock, Atlanta, San Diego, Berkley
Wishbone ash - Live dates
Uriah heep live
Deep purple - Made in Japan
Mountain - Twin peaks
Johnny winter - Live and
Humble pie - Live at Fillmore
Allman brothers band - Live at Fillmore
Taste - Live at Isle of Wight
Grand funk railroad - Live
Edited by pero - March 07 2007 at 03:32
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 02:56 |
No - Yessongs is a shocker - you cannot attribute the "best" accolade to such a poor recording.
My vote goes to Renaissance at Carnegie Hall. Winner on performance, recording quality and material. Pretty much the PERFECT album, live or otherwise.
Special mentions to......
DP - "Made In Japan"
Jethro Tull - "Bursting Out"
Maschera Di Cera - "In Concerto"
Wishbone Ash - "In Chicago"
And for those of you who with hi-end hi-fi and want to hear, arguably, the best recorded live (some studio tracks on it) album ,certainly in my collection............
Fairport Convention "Old, New, Borrowed, Blue - Acousic Vonvention" - people often use The Eagles' Hell Freezes Over" as a hi-fi test CD. The Fairport outclasses that my a didtance. Come on Progarchives - let's add this to the Fairport db.
And the most exciting live album?.......
Grand Funk Railroad - "Grand Funk Live"
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Drachen Theaker
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Posted: March 07 2007 at 02:55 |
One of the Yes biographies said the production makes it sound like the band was calling in from a phone booth in Grand Central Station!
Despite that it's still the best prog live album IMHO and shows just how hard-edged they could sound live. Steve Howe gives an exhibition of sustained guitar brilliance. His solos on Yours is No Disgrace and Starship Trooper are astounding and completely smoke the studio versions.
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