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Fitzcarraldo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:01 | |
OK, I'll do it. Perhaps the moderator has not read the e-mail I sent earlier to the Website's Admins.
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Tony R
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:56 | |
Wow, that was quick,the review was there 10 minutes ago!
The moderator Morrissey has posted this: Thanks for reporting this. Deleted that review and banned him. Fitzcarrlo posted that he Zoolanderhotep plagiarised 11 other reviews of his, could you get him to identify these with links to his own work so I can verify and delete? Thanks, and sorry about this. ======================================================== Fitz? Edited by Tony R - December 28 2006 at 13:58 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:54 | |
Fitz, it seems that Brain Salad Surgery review is no longer there, so I presume the admins have deleted them?
I hope that is the case, as plagiarism is something I'd hate to happen to me. Luckily I've only written three reviews here, so I believe nobody has plagiarised me. My Astrid Proll review was used elsewhere (well, a shortened version), but that was by the bass player of the band and he referenced my name and PR anyhow, so I'm happy. EDIT: it seems the the other reviews are still up though. I hope this mess gets sorted out. Edited by Geck0 - December 28 2006 at 14:00 |
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Fitzcarraldo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:53 | |
Tony, I've just read your post about your registering on the site and complaining. Thanks, I appreciate it.
Some may think I'm making a fuss about nothing, but this kid -- and anyone else who plagiarises other people's reviews (or any other work, for that matter) -- should be made aware that it's unethical and that they should not do it. If I (we) don't complain then such people will just go on plagiarising, ie. stealing, other people's work. |
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Tony R
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:52 | |
No, the address is correct: [email protected] |
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andu
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:50 | |
i think you should correct the email you provided - shouldn't the ending be @gmail.com instead of @googlemail.com? |
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Fitzcarraldo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:48 | |
^Yes, Tony. See the seventh post on the first page in this thread for a copy of my e-mail to the Admins of that site. I've also sent the details to M@X and requested him to e-mail them too, but it's up to him whether he does or not.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, the punk also ripped off a review by salmacis. I have not checked the rest of this ZoolanderHotept kid's reviews but notice that he has one or two by RUSH too, so perhaps he plagiarised them from Prog Archives too. The punk even had the gall to pass himself off as me ("Fitzcarraldo aka Zoolanderhotept") on the other site. What a little twerp. |
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Tony R
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11979 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:45 | |
I have registered and posted a complaint on the site. http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13903564&posted=1#post13903564 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:42 | |
Of course you can but it's not so easy being that:
Simple as that. Now, I'm not expert in Canadian law, but maybe Prog Archives could force the site to delete the reviews, but again this ghas a cost.
Iván
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Tristan Mulders
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:24 | |
So what you're saying is that anyone can freely rip-off our well-written reviews and we cannot do a damn thing about it Iván?
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Fitzcarraldo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 12:11 | |
Erik, Iván, If the sites you quoted are crediting you and/or Prog Archives then I would not classify that as plagiarism, since they are acknowledging that they are not the originators of the reviews. The reason I am so hopping mad about this ZoolanderHotept kid is that he has just copied my reviews and passed them off as his own. This is pure plagiarism, pure theft of somebody else's review. I just cannot understand how someone can be so shallow and childish as to do that. To actually claim on that site that he wrote them himself beggars belief. I notice that he even copied a spelling mistake I made and later corrected. |
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kazansky
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 24 2006 Location: Indonesia Status: Offline Points: 5085 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:52 | |
i dont think in Fitz's case he would want to remove that, considering that he acknowledge it as his own work... Edited by kazansky - December 28 2006 at 10:53 |
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The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us.
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erik neuteboom
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 27 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 7659 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:47 | |
Funny, I just found this on the website of The Gift:
"Hi one and all We are now on Prog Archives; the biggest progressive resource in the world, and have been given a great review by Erik Neuteboom, one of their most prolific reviewers. He is an advocate.."
To be serious:
This is the harvest of only a few minutes searching with Google, all these site are using my reviews without my knowledge. And I presume that a lot more sites are doing the same. On one hand it is a bit of an ego-gratification but on the other hand it is a very cheap way to earn money ! Edited by erik neuteboom - December 28 2006 at 11:35 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:19 | |
I found a couple of mine used in other sites
http://jrfg.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_jrfg_archive.html (Alsop a couple more of PA members as Australian and Muzikman but at least all credited and with a link to PZ)
www.demonoid.com/files/details/566147/5426554/ - 24k (I can't even read it because it's aclosed site by invitation but it's in Google)
http://www.caladan.art.pl/forum5/read.php?3,37423,39413 (Mentioned with PA imn Polish)
http://jazzrockz.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_jazzrockz_archive.html (About Ponty but also credited)
http://www.cybersmusic.com/cybersearch.php?a=25%20Baroque%20Favorites (About Hamburger Concerto linking it to Prog Archives)
BTW: Nothing vcan be done being that Prog Archives doesn't own the reviews and the owners have not copyrighted, still you can ask for the removal.
Iván
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Ricochet
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 27 2005 Location: Nauru Status: Offline Points: 46301 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:12 | |
he better not consider messing with one of beauties...
sorry to hear Fitz, take him down if that's his rotten habit. |
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Fitzcarraldo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 09:59 | |
Sorry to bang on about this, guys, but I have just seen that the punk has plagiarised the review of GENESIS - Foxtrot on Prog Archives by salmacis.
I have not checked the other ZoolanderHotept reviews to see who he has stolen them from, but it could be from other Prog Archives reviews. |
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andu
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 27 2006 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 3089 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 09:35 | |
well i guess we have to wait for ivan's advice on this copyright issue... because i guess in the case of commercial oriented usage of noncredited material legal action could be fruitful.
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 09:26 | |
I would be so angry, as I'm sure you are.
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Fitzcarraldo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 09:21 | |
I am so cross with this thief ZoolanderHotept. Look at this exchange of messages on his review page for ELP Works Vol. II on that site:
AlienEater wrote: "how have managed to do so many good elp reviews so quickly?" ZoolanderHotept wrote: "I didn't write these all this week. I wrote some of them afew weeks ago when my internet connection was down and started posting them as soon as it came back up. The others I had yet to post here but decided to do so when I saw there was only 1 ELP review." The guy is a liar as well as a thief. I have not received a reply from the sputnikmusic Web site's Admins to the e-mail I sent complaining, but it is the Festive Season. Perhaps they will reply in a few days. In any case, I am so annoyed that I registered with the site and posted a comment on each of the 12 reviews of his that I found had ripped of my reviews. Here is what I wrote for ELP - Works Vol. II, for example: This review was plagiarised from my November 2004 review of Works Vol. II on the Prog Archives Website. I am not ZoolanderHotept, despite him writing "Fitzcarraldo aka Zoolanderhotept" above. I did NOT give him permission to copy my review. And he even had the cheek to claim he wrote them "a few weeks ago when my internet connection was down". He is a fraud. I see he has also plagiarised 11 other reviews of mine. Fitzcarraldo Watch you reviews, guys! This thief will rip off your reviews too and claim that he wrote them. I just hope that the sputnikmusic site does not have anymore thieves for reviewers. |
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Seyo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320 |
Posted: December 28 2006 at 04:48 | |
So far I have not noticed that someone copied my reviews from PA, but I did notice that many of my bio and discographies that I wrote for PA appeared on other web sites... notably on a French site called Amarokprog... My feeling is mixed, I am sort of happy that the correct info on certain artists is spread across the net, but... I don't know.
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