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andu
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 19:38 |
i'm newbie.
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tuxon
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 19:40 |
Snow Dog wrote:
elpprogster wrote:
Well, I just love ELP and most bands that play their style of keyboard prog music.
Let´s make a list of ELP influenced bands here? |
Triumvirat?
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Par Lindh Project (heavy on the organs and baroque music)
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso (ever so slightly)
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 19:42 |
tuxon wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
elpprogster wrote:
Well, I just love ELP and most bands that play their style of keyboard prog music.
Let´s make a list of ELP influenced bands here? |
Triumvirat?
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Par Lindh Project (heavy on the organs and baroque music)
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso (ever so slightly)
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Mastermind? (Early stuff anyway)
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tuxon
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 19:44 |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 19:46 |
I seriously hope not. I liked the guy, but things got too intense.
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stonebeard
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 19:51 |
I saw things...terrible things....horrible things.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 19:56 |
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andu
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 19:59 |
i have some questions for you fanboys. 1st - was ELP a successful band or were they also an influential one, in your opinion? were they leading a crowd because they were it's best "athletes" or were they drawing "the rules of the game" they were playing, for them and for others too? i hope you get the nuance; name and comment, please. 2nd - if they were influential, did their influence cross genres' borders? i remember that when i got into prog and had a genuine perception of all this music, i was struck by the connection i felt between ELP and fusion like Weather Report, for example. is there any relation to be drawn between Emerson and fusion keyboard players? i really am curious and i don't have the necessary insight to get proper answers.
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tuxon
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:04 |
Back to basics again if we will.
so bands that were influenced by ELP.
so far we have:
Triumvirat (obviously) Early 90's Swedish prog (Anglagard, Pär Lindh project) Itallian Symphonic prog (Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso) Mastermind (don't know them myself, so i will trust Snow White on this)
any others (or disagree with the ones brought in already).
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:05 |
tuxon wrote:
Back to basics again if we will.
so bands that were influenced by ELP.
so far we have:
Triumvirat (obviously) Early 90's Swedish prog (Anglagard, Pär Lindh project) Itallian Symphonic prog (Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso) Mastermind (don't know them myself, so i will trust Snow White on this)
any others (or disagree with the ones brought in already). |
UK......slightly maybe?
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stonebeard
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:07 |
You really think Anglagard, tux?
I'd say they're KC, GG, and a lot of sadness (possibly concurrent with the Scandinavian scene ).
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:09 |
stonebeard wrote:
You really think Anglagard, tux?
I'd say they're KC, GG, and a lot of sadness (possibly concurrent with the Scandinavian scene ). |
I agree.....but I think theres a little ELP in there....
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Losendos
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:13 |
I love 4 albums ELP Tarkus Trilogy and Welcome Back My friends ( which is a top 10 of all time )
I quite like Works ,I find Pirates quite creative
Bombastic, iconoclastic , pushing the boundaries ,overblown pretence , rock music would have been poorer without them.
I think we've all had enough laughs over Love Beach to compensate for the 10 bucks we spent on it.
And we also have to thank them for providing their asses as prog music's favorite whipping boy with the rest of the rock and roll industry
There one should only include positive statements on an appreceation thread.
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How wonderful to be so profound
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elpprogster
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:19 |
Well, let´s try do the homework:
- Italian bands influenced by ELP:
LE ORME
TRIADE
ALPHATAURUS
RUSTICHELLI & BORDINI
THE TRIP (just on the Atlantide and Time of Change albuns)
- Japanese bands:
DEJA VU
GERARD
ARS NOVA
RUINS (just on the Symphonica album)
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By the way: the new NEXUS album, Perpetuum Karma has been just released. This argentinian band is led by keyboardist extraordinaaire Lalo Huber, who is definetly an Keith Emerson disciple.
Another german ELP influenced band from the 70´s: TRITONUS
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elpprogster
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:32 |
And let´s not forget some american bands like CAIRO; GLASS HAMMER, ROCKET SCIENTISTS (these bands mix ELP, Genesis and Yes influences, but the keyboard/organ playing is definetly Emersonic); from the 70´s: QUILL
Another current italian band: TAPROBAN
The russian LITTLE TRAGEDIES
Another german band from the 70´s(besides the already mentioned Triumvirat and Tritonus): AMOS KEY
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:34 |
How about Magellan?
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elpprogster
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:40 |
Yeap, some bit of influences on that too, in spite of the heavy guitars...
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:51 |
I honestly can't find the connection between Par Lindh Project and ELP.
ELP is mainly based in late Romantic/early Modern Classical while Par Lindh Project takes late Religious Gothic Music and Baroque.
Keith is very skilled but his technique is not so good (Remember he never had formal musical studies in a conservatory or Music School, only with some private teachers) while Par Lindh is a full musician with complete formation and a solid career as Classical Organ and Piano performer before returning to Prog.
ELP is way over the top, they love the excesses while Par Lind Project create a dark and sober atmosphere.
And Anglagard, reminds me more of Genesis meets King Crimson than ELP.
My two cents.
Iván
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elpprogster
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:51 |
There´s also a couple of ELP TRIBUTE BANDS:
NODDY´S PUNCTURE (this english band released some weeks ago a live album "Thank You Masked Man" featuring Keith Emerson)
SEVEN VIRGINS & A MULE
An Israeli influenced band: TRESPASS (their latest album is even more classic sounded, with hints from The Nice)
and a venezuelan from the 70´s: PARTHENON
Two great keyboard prog bands that differ a bit from ELP, due to the self charisma of the respective players are REFUGEE AND TRACE.
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elpprogster
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Posted: December 25 2006 at 20:55 |
I also agree that ELP are not the prime influence in the 90´s Scandinavian Prog (Anglagard, Landberk etc), as the mentioned King Crimson and Genesis.
Anyway, Lars Fredik Froilie, keyboard player from norwegian Wobbler, throws some ELP leanings on their "Winterland" debut album.
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