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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: November 20 2006 at 16:46 | ||
another example would be The MC5 with Kick Out The Jams. That song loses all it's bite without the opening cry of "Kick Out the Jams Motherf**ker!"
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KoS
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Posted: November 20 2006 at 16:49 | ||
what about NIN - closer?
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billbuckner
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Posted: November 20 2006 at 17:58 | ||
Doesn't Ian Anderson say "f**k, take two" at the opening to Baker St. Muse?
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Arsillus
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Posted: November 20 2006 at 18:42 | ||
No, he says sh*t, take two.
Swearing doesn't really bother me. I don't do it because I think it's a bad habit, but I don't really care if others do it. Saying it a lot just for the sake of it is obnoxious, though. Edited by Arsillus - November 20 2006 at 18:42 |
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Aaron
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Posted: November 20 2006 at 20:26 | ||
it' really all about how it is used and how it is heard, but if he said it during a song break it doesn't sound like a big deal some bands can pull it off, some can'ti personally am not offended when i hear swear words in music, i just think it cheapens it a bit
Aaron
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E-Dub
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Posted: November 20 2006 at 20:35 | ||
I thought Portnoy's use of profanity cheapened the show a bit. He just came off as another foul mouthed New Yorker. E |
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lightbulb_son
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 20 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 965 |
Posted: November 20 2006 at 20:42 | ||
Glad to see someone else enjoys them. He's finnish, so you kind of have to cut him slack on that, but he does overdoe it at times. And he's my guitar hero, so I'm not about to second guess the guy's vocabulary. I'm going to see them in DC on the 15th
About cursing in general, I guess I've become desensitized. Racial slurs still bother me, but in general nothing really shocks me anymore.
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Can't no one be well But I dreamt we were all beautiful and strong |
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Prog-jester
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 04:17 | ||
It is stupid in that Spock's Beard epic
It is unnecessary in GYBE's INSTRUMENTAL track name But it is f*cking great in TOOL songs!!! |
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ResidentAlien
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 17 2006 Status: Offline Points: 441 |
Posted: November 21 2006 at 04:24 | ||
Man, I can't believe this ridiculous topic is still going on.
It's up to the artist to decide what is prudent and necessary. If you don't like the swearing..... don't listen to it. It's not for us to decide what songs warrant swearing and which don't. Frankly... it doesn't make a goddamned difference if any of you think the swearing is unnecessary, it's a part of the song and therefore it's a part of the art. If the artist/musician uses it, it's for a reason; whether you agree with that reasoning doesn't matter. Art is art, leave it to the artist to decide how it "should" be. Again.... http://youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc Edited by ResidentAlien - November 21 2006 at 04:27 |
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eugene
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 05:37 | ||
Yesterday I discovered in one catalogue of CDs for sale that there is a band called Anal c**t, talking about foul language here...
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carefulwiththataxe
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ResidentAlien
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 17 2006 Status: Offline Points: 441 |
Posted: November 21 2006 at 06:01 | ||
And? They're a grindcore band. They make loud vulgar music... such is their style; it's the message they wish to convey. What's wrong with that? |
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eugene
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 06:17 | ||
I guess nothing wrong with this apart from that I think that this kind of a band's name is a bit over the top, but I do not give a f**k about this band in particular and the whole grindcore in general. However I just remembered about this slightly unconventional sh*t when I read people here discussing occasional F words. That's all.
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carefulwiththataxe
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toolis
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 06:30 | ||
isn't "Eulogy" from Tool the swearest song or what? "...come down, get off your f**king cross..." still, i love it... |
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more... -sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue... |
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Trickster F.
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 10:38 | ||
It's not the name that is the problem.
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Trademark
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 21 2006 Location: oHIo Status: Offline Points: 1009 |
Posted: November 21 2006 at 11:56 | ||
Portnoy's commentary on the live in Eurpoe release is at about a 6th or 7th grade level. The rough equivalent of armpit farts and it most certainly and undoubtedly cheapens the whole copncert. I'm glad I wasn't there. I used Protools to edit out his stupidity so that I can listen in peace.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 16:26 | ||
There are plenty of ways of putting steam into arguments without using language that some people find offensive.
And there is no point in offending people in order to get your point of view across. If you know it might be offensive to some, it's best to avoid it - remember, some people browse this forum at school. |
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Trademark
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 21 2006 Location: oHIo Status: Offline Points: 1009 |
Posted: November 21 2006 at 16:30 | ||
Point taken, post edited
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An old fart
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 21:53 | ||
I swear quite a lot in my personal life, not that I am particularly proud of it - and soon becoming a father too. As for the F and C and A words (and the whole bunch of them) in prog rock or whatever art form, they don't bother me much. I find it a little strange notion that some words could have a magical effect of lowering someone's intelligence and imagination the second they are muttered out of the mouth. If that was the case, it would be so easy to appear as intelligent just by dropping cultural words in a row. It's the overall understanding and sensibility to words that counts and in some cases (Fish's lyrics being mentioned as good examples) USING a swear word can be the right thing to do to express something with enough effect. Naturally this does not mean that using as many swear words as possible makes anyone's statement stronger. On the contrary, repeated and unnecessary use of them make them rather lose their effect.
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Meddler
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 22:06 | ||
They cheapen songs for me.
The Flaming Lipsruined their concert by fitting the F word in their choruses in as humanly possible. [singing was off also...] |
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The Miracle
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Posted: November 21 2006 at 22:06 | ||
AxCx's lyrics are absolutely hilarious, and their music isn't all that bad, as far as plain grindcore goes, they're pretty good! Unlike all those "white power" grindcore bands, like Vaginal Jesus... |
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