9/11 Pentagon Video finally released...

The video of the Pentagon is inconclusive but no-one can doubt the WTC surely. There are videos from members of the public clearly showing planes hitting the buildings.

sleeper wrote: marktheshark wrote: sleeper wrote: marktheshark wrote: Tony R wrote: I do not believe an airplane hit The Pentagon. Having scrutinised pictures of the lawn outside,the size of the hole in the building and the condition of exterior and interior walls,plus the fact that the Govt claims to have only this small video evidence,I can only come to one conclusion: one would have to be extremely gullible to believe the Govt's version of events. And one would have to be pretty paranoid to hang on to this theory. So I ask again, WHERE ARE THE PASSENGERS THEN?!        Were's the plain wreckage? Where was plane wreckage in the WTC buildings? They didn't come up with any major parts. The answer, according to an Air Force Capt. was they were disintegrated. These planes blew up as a cause of impact, not skidding down in a farmers field. There are no wings left because that's where the fuel is and I think the tail has an auxillary tank. When jet fuel is ignited in open air under pressure as opposed to inside an engine, it burns over 100 times hotter because it's exposed to more oxygen. The hottest point of the explosion is the white flash at the point of impact. Now, the shell of a 757 is not exactly an armored car. I forget the technical name of the alloy they use. But it's basically an eggshell. This isn't coming from me, I got this last year at a veteran's forum where they had this same discussion. And this Air Force chap basically just said that any kind of crash involving a jet impacting is not going to leave much. In fact I think I remember he mentioned that he was at the crash site of Dean Martin's son who crash his F-14 into a mountain and all they could find was some landing gear and parts of the engines and cockpit. Not even bones! I'm no expert on this, so just take for what it is.        Commercial aircraft tend to be made from an Aluminium aloy (cant remember the specifics about it) and yes your right about the intensaty of a aviation fuel igniting in open air, but did you see the video, there was no white flash, just an orengy red fireball. This suggests there was no aviation fuel in the vecinaty, ergo no plane.

Like hell there's no white flash! Take a look a the frame-by-frame. Right at the instant it hits you see a bright flash just for a second.
    

^ it should be pointed out that an object travelling at 500 kph moves more than 60 meters each 1/24th second. I don't know the exact speed of the plane, but even if it had been very slow (250 kph) it would still be 30 meters.

I've watched and read a bit about all this and I have to say, the conspiracy is more compelling than a non-conspiracy.

Ergo: The conspiracy of it being an "inside job", rather than suicide bombers or Al Quaeda (sp.).

There are just too many inconsistencies to mull over.

I realise it's distressing and it brings back all these memories, but don't you deserve the truth?

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Sorry about your nephew, Jody! But I agree that people should try to obtain all information available on the subject and then make up their minds and decide what THEY believe. Here's an interesting video - highly recommended! http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848

At a moments notice?

I don't think a hoax like this would have taken a moments notice.

Besides, there were other witnesses, all telling different stories.

I'm also pretty sure that other cameras gave a better view.  Just two CCTV camera images have been released, both from virtually the same position and both showing very inconclusive proof (in my opinion).

Even if the other views do not show anything of worth, surely they should be released to the public, for benefit of the doubt purposes?

And then there are The Garage and Sheriton Hotel camera images that have never seen the light of day, why?

Then you would know about the security cameras installed in the Pentagon then?  Why has there only been released a very poor video from a carpark CCTV camera?

And then the hotel opposite (as well as other places) had their tapes removed and have never been released... what's going on with that?

Here are the two CCTV camera views they've released...

http://www.judicialwatch.org/flight77.shtml

It's inconclusive.


Edited by Geck0 - May 18 2006 at 03:06

Mark:

It's only a conspiracy when there are no concrete facts to back it up. In the case of 911 there is enough evidence to throw the key away. Inside job all the way. Buildings don't just fall down in a controlled way for the fun of it. Terrorists?, it's laughable. It's all done to remove your rights and freedoms. They just needed an excuse, that's all.

sleeper wrote: marktheshark wrote: Tony R wrote: I do not believe an airplane hit The Pentagon. Having scrutinised pictures of the lawn outside,the size of the hole in the building and the condition of exterior and interior walls,plus the fact that the Govt claims to have only this small video evidence,I can only come to one conclusion: one would have to be extremely gullible to believe the Govt's version of events. And one would have to be pretty paranoid to hang on to this theory. So I ask again, WHERE ARE THE PASSENGERS THEN?!        Were's the plain wreckage?

Where was plane wreckage in the WTC buildings? They didn't come up with any major parts. The answer, according to an Air Force Capt. was they were disintegrated. These planes blew up as a cause of impact, not skidding down in a farmers field. There are no wings left because that's where the fuel is and I think the tail has an auxillary tank. When jet fuel is ignited in open air under pressure as opposed to inside an engine, it burns over 100 times hotter because it's exposed to more oxygen. The hottest point of the explosion is the white flash at the point of impact.

Now, the shell of a 757 is not exactly an armored car. I forget the technical name of the alloy they use. But it's basically an eggshell.

This isn't coming from me, I got this last year at a veteran's forum where they had this same discussion. And this Air Force chap basically just said that any kind of crash involving a jet impacting is not going to leave much. In fact I think I remember he mentioned that he was at the crash site of Dean Martin's son who crash his F-14 into a mountain and all they could find was some landing gear and parts of the engines and cockpit. Not even bones!

I'm no expert on this, so just take for what it is.