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    Posted: May 17 2006 at 07:19
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4987716.stm

The US Govt has finally released video footage of the attack on the Pentagon. They believe that this debunks,once and for all,the conspiracy theories that claimed a missile and not a plane had hit The Pentagon.

I have my own views on this,but do you feel this puts the matter to rest now?

    
    

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No it doesn't for me, Tony.  It looks like a cruise missile to me.  It's just too pointed and too small to be a 'plane.

But that's just my opinion...
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Why did they release that footage? Doesn't prove anything, they just made things worse.
 
 
I don't believe there is a conspiracy, that's just what they want you to believe so you don't realize what's really going on.
 
 
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I thought it was a Pendragon video!Confused
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Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

Why did they release that footage? Doesn't prove anything, they just made things worse.
 

 

I don't believe there is a conspiracy, that's just what they want you to believe so you don't realize what's really going on.

 

 


Actually what you just said is a conspiracy theory.....
    
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Originally posted by darren darren wrote:

Why did they release that footage? Doesn't prove anything, they just made things worse.
 

 

I don't believe there is a conspiracy, that's just what they want you to believe so you don't realize what's really going on.

 

 



In other words a conspiracy!
     

I cant run this at work. I'll check it out tonight at home, but having seen the damage to the Penatgon, and having heard certain experts say that the damage was not consistent with a plane hitting the building, I'm inclined to believe the whole thing stinks.
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I can't watch this,my oldest nephew was killed in the Pentagon attack.


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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I can't watch this,my oldest nephew was killed in the Pentagon attack.


I'm sorry to hear that Jody.

I'm not certain but I believe the reports said it was a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon, there is no way in hell that that was a passenger plane that hit the building in that video, its way to small and doesnt even show any of the details, like wings and engines, that you get on a plain.
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Thats awful, Jody. Im very sorry.
    

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Looks like a plane to me....and i donlt know how anyone can judge the size of it.
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Looks like a plane to me....and i donlt know how anyone can judge the size of it.


A 757 is not a small plane and would have filled that view infront of the Pentagon before impact. This does of course depend on the fact that it was a 757, I dont have the time to check up right now though.
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^ I disgree, it depends on our distance from the impact.
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Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I can't watch this,my oldest nephew was killed in the Pentagon attack.
 
I'm very sorry to hear that... Awful!
 
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Looks like a plane to me....and i donlt know how anyone can judge the size of it.


A 757 is not a small plane and would have filled that view infront of the Pentagon before impact. This does of course depend on the fact that it was a 757, I dont have the time to check up right now though.
 
It was a 757, as some articles on internet say.
It doesn't prove a thing in my opinion. I can't see anything that looks like a plane, and I wish they would've released better footage, as this is only making things worse. I'm sure there must be better footage than this, but that will be kept confidential I guess Confused

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Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Looks like a plane to me....and i donlt know how anyone can judge the size of it.


A 757 is not a small plane and would have filled that view infront of the Pentagon before impact. This does of course depend on the fact that it was a 757, I dont have the time to check up right now though.


Here is a simu;lation, and it doesnt fill up the front of the Penatgin


http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/images/sozen.pentagon.jpeg
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My condolences Jody, I am sure the pain is still with your family after 5 years, nothing can replace him.

The victims families have a right to know the truth (if, indeed, what is porported to be the truth, isn't the truth, of course).

An odd question this... and I am sorry if it angers anyone, I don't mean to... but if the 'plane didn't hit the Pentagon, where did it go?
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Thanks to everyone for the kind words and thoughts.
 
I just said to a buddy of mine,the wounds will never heal but I have tried to make peace with it.


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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:



In other words a conspiracy!
     

I cant run this at work. I'll check it out tonight at home, but having seen the damage to the Penatgon, and having heard certain experts say that the damage was not consistent with a plane hitting the building, I'm inclined to believe the whole thing stinks.
 
Do not need experts to realize that the damage to the building could not have been by a plane. I know armoured concrete building resist well, ( there were no trace of wings in the footage at the time) , but from there to eating plane wings , this was a a very defensive buildingWink...... Dead Stiiiiinnkyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
How about them releasing the pictures of the fourth plane shot overthe Pennsylvania forest. I mean that plane was surrounded by US airfoce planes fully loaded  >> so loaded there was no more room for a camera filming the plane getting shot down by the US Aiorforce, Right?Big smile
 
 
 
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So the plane goes down, skips the ground, hits the pentagon and enters it TOTALLY in less than ONE SECOND (disregarding the stopping force of the building), immediately explodes AND leaves no trace of a plane and they call this proof that a plane hit the building?



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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:



In other words a conspiracy!
     

I cant run this at work. I'll check it out tonight at home, but having seen the damage to the Penatgon, and having heard certain experts say that the damage was not consistent with a plane hitting the building, I'm inclined to believe the whole thing stinks.
 
Do not need experts to realize that the damage to the building could not have been by a plane. I know armoured concrete building resist well, ( there were no trace of wings in the footage at the time) , but from there to eating plane wings , this was a a very defensive buildingWink...... Dead Stiiiiinnkyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
How about them releasing the pictures of the fourth plane shot overthe Pennsylvania forest. I mean that plane was surrounded by US airfoce planes fully loaded  >> so loaded there was no more room for a camera filming the plane getting shot down by the US Aiorforce, Right?Big smile
 
 
 
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If the USAF did shoot that plane down do you disagree with that?


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Points: 1823 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2006 at 10:22

Did the Pentagon really only just release that video? I'm sure I've seen that video in the past.

To Jody - I'm very sorry to hear about your nephew.


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