Forum Home Forum Home > Topics not related to music > General discussions
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - The Ranting Room
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedThe Ranting Room

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 117>
Author
Message
mystic fred View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 13 2006
Location: Londinium
Status: Offline
Points: 4252
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2006 at 03:47
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Well on my ranting radar of late is 'HR Speak' Let me clarify: 'Human Resources speak'

Now, every company has a HR (or personel) dept, but where I work they have so much clout it's unbelievable. Business trends come and go, and at present the trend is for touchy feely training courses, spin and double speak. The latest course was called 'Frameworks - For Leaders' I attended this two day session in a country hotel and was subjected to having to bare my soul to people I hardly knew, draw pictures that represented me as a child, a teenager and an adult, and partake in what we call intuition walks. These entail walking around the grounds of the hotel - in silence - with a note pad recording your feelings. After the walks we assemble in a circle, and have a 'Check In' This is where we each, in turn sum up our feelings in no more than three words at a time. When the session ends, one of the 'facilitators' sticks on an Enya CD to chill us out. These 'facilitators' are of course external consultants and earn more money than most of us will see in a lifetime.

.
 
if you think that's bad you should go on one of those health and safety or introduction to counselling courses!!
sometimes "politiofficespeak" or "HR speak" can work for you - i am on the security team where i work and also i am health & safety officer for the union. it's amazing sometimes! if there is a fire alarm i find myself in total control of the whole site, if i want anybody to do what i ask them to do (always in the interests of their safety) a multitude of sins can be covered by "well it's health and safety..."  - no argument with that !  try it!


Edited by mystic fred - May 13 2006 at 03:48
Prog Archives Tour Van
Back to Top
Blacksword View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2006 at 04:25
Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Well on my ranting radar of late is 'HR Speak' Let me clarify: 'Human Resources speak' Now, every company has a HR (or personel) dept, but where I work they have so much clout it's unbelievable. Business trends come and go, and at present the trend is for touchy feely training courses, spin and double speak. The latest course was called 'Frameworks - For Leaders' I attended this two day session in a country hotel and was subjected to having to bare my soul to people I hardly knew, draw pictures that represented me as a child, a teenager and an adult, and partake in what we call intuition walks. These entail walking around the grounds of the hotel - in silence - with a note pad recording your feelings. After the walks we assemble in a circle, and have a 'Check In' This is where we each, in turn sum up our feelings in no more than three words at a time. When the session ends, one of the 'facilitators' sticks on an Enya CD to chill us out. These 'facilitators' are of course external consultants and earn more money than most of us will see in a lifetime. .

 

if you think that's bad you should go on one of those health and safety or introduction to counselling courses!!

sometimes "politiofficespeak" or "HR speak" can work for you - i am on the security team where i work and also i am health & safety officer for the union. it's amazing sometimes! if there is a fire alarm i find myself in total control of the whole site, if i want anybody to do what i ask them to do (always in the interests of their safety) a multitude of sins can be covered by "well it's health and safety..."  - no argument with that !  try it!



I work in a formulation unit for a crop protection company, so there's plenty of health and safety protocal to follow, and I'm happy to accept that. We handle some pretty dangerous stuff, albeit in very small quantities.

The kind of HR speak I object to is purely business focussed. You there i go already!    In a scientific community, folk have very little time for ambiguous bullsh!t. The purpose of the courses was to install a new way of thinking among managers and leaders like myself, to promote positive thinking against a backdrop of some very negative changes. Turd pollishing basically. It's depressing...
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Back to Top
VanderGraafKommandöh View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
Status: Offline
Points: 89372
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2006 at 04:29
I presume you dislike "team building" exercises as well then?

Do they still do the lifting boxes by bending your knees training, or is that an urban myth?


Edited by Geck0 - May 13 2006 at 04:30
Back to Top
Blacksword View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2006 at 05:03
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:


I presume you dislike "team building" exercises as well then?Do they still do the lifting boxes by bending your knees training, or is that an urban myth?



Yeah, we still train people in 'ergonomics' and that has some value. It's the philisophical, touchy feely rubbish I object to, designed to 'streamline''enhance integration' and improve 'synergy'


     
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Back to Top
sleeper View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2006 at 11:01
^Also known as "what a load of bollocks!"
Back to Top
Jim Garten View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin & Razor Guru

Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2006 at 13:30
Originally posted by Stonebeard Stonebeard wrote:

I hate how some people are bent on keeing their hearts cold to the joyous music that only a band such as Pallas can provide


That bloody well reminds me:

"The Sentinel"...

How did a bunch of Scottish 4th division Yes wannabees ever persuade Eddie Offord to produce such a rancid collection of (for the want of a better word) songs whose only benefit to the oevre of progressive rock is to act as a benchmark for other bands travelling the same road, who can listen to their own efforts and say "well hey, it may be crap, maybe we can't play very well, maybe the lyrics are appalling (can you say "Magenta"?) and maybe our drummer does sound like my granny playing biscuit tins with crochet hooks... whilst asleep... but at least we're not as bad as PALLAS"

+++sound of re-breathing exercises+++


Originally posted by spacecraft spacecraft wrote:

Mobile phones...why?


Mobile phones aren't my bugbear (usually...), but I'll tell you what I do hate about the bloody things:

Bluetooth Headsets!

OK, OK, they are fine and dandy as a handsfree kit whilst driving... but why do their sad b*****d owners insist on wearing/using them whilst walking down the street with normal people like us? Do they think other peoples' perception of their evidently talking to themselves i proves their image? Do they want to be seen as sad little Borg wannabees with their little plastic attachments sticking out of their bloody ears????

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

b*****dS!

Oh, by the way, welcome to the forum, spacecraft - we're not always like this....

....unless someone asks me about Pallas, that is...

Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Back to Top
sleeper View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 09 2005
Location: Entropia
Status: Offline
Points: 16449
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2006 at 16:23
Tourists. I hate them.

The pavements here in Oxford are only wide enough for about 2 (if your lucky 3) people to walk side by side down, so of course a bunch of 20 odd tourist is going to stand in the way and block everyone. Another thing, I really hat it when people walk agonizeingly slow right infront of you, its even worse when they stop without warning!!!Angry

Hmmmmm.... this is quickly becomeing my favourit thread, it just feels so good to get these annoyances of my chest.
Back to Top
VanderGraafKommandöh View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
Status: Offline
Points: 89372
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2006 at 00:25
Peter Doherty and his bands that create so called music!

It's out of tune, unintelligible muzak that contains far too many yeah yeah yeahs!

I cannot see how Babyshambles and The Libertines, are where they are...

Simply awful!


Edited by Geck0 - May 14 2006 at 00:50
Back to Top
Ivan_Melgar_M View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator

Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 27 2004
Location: Peru
Status: Offline
Points: 19535
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2006 at 00:46

Talking about mobile phones, a couple years ago when I was taking the masters degree course and  in the middle of the class acelular phone started to ring, and a very cute girl said something like "Darling, I can't talk to you now, I'm on a class, see you tonight at the disco" Just in the middle of the class.

The teacher without changing his face made a coment: There should only be two kind of persons that use mobile phones, Doctors who need to be communicated because lives are in their hands and snobs, being that all the people here are lawyers, you "darling" must be in the second kind, so please call your boyfriend and tell him you're going early to the disco tonight, good bye"
 
But we need mobile phones like it or not.
 
You know what I hate?
 
Infomercials, specially those that tell us during 5 or 10 minutes (In the middle of our favoruite TV programs) that if we but Jack La Lalanne's juice processor we will live until we're 95 years old (While a stupid woman says "Omygoddd it doesn't makes a sound")
 

 
Even worst (if possible) are those that tell us that if we buy a very expensive machine (seen at least 50 different) we will losse 50 Kgms working out 5 minutes a day and even if we breakfast doughnuts with bacon.
 
I hate those ones.
 
Iván


Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - May 14 2006 at 01:00
            
Back to Top
mystic fred View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 13 2006
Location: Londinium
Status: Offline
Points: 4252
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2006 at 08:37
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Chavs - need I say more?
 
are they what we used to call "essex girls"  ???
Prog Archives Tour Van
Back to Top
Tony R View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: July 16 2004
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 11979
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2006 at 08:48
Old people!
I'm sorry but what exactly are they for? These small,doddery wrinkly-people,they're everywhere! At the wrong times!!!

Now we have to call them Seniors and I know why!

"Senior got all day to go about your business why do you always travel into town during rush hour?"

You've got all freaking day to go into town you selfish old coots!!

Have you ever tried to get a bus anywhere between 8 and 9 am? They inevitably fly past you filled with schoolkids and oldies. That's why I go to work in my car-if you are travelling to work between 8 and 9 there is a better than 50% chance of being able to knock one of the old buggers over!

    
    
    
    

Edited by Tony R - May 14 2006 at 08:52
Back to Top
Jim Garten View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin & Razor Guru

Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2006 at 09:05
...and they smell of wee.

Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Back to Top
Tony R View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: July 16 2004
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 11979
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2006 at 09:07
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

...and they smell of wee.
and they all have beards.....




....male and female!
     
Back to Top
Jim Garten View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin & Razor Guru

Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2006 at 03:48
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Peter Doherty and his bands that create so called music!


Jeez Geck0, you know how to push the wrong buttons, for me...

Pete Docherty?

Pete Docherty?

OHMYGODDON'TGETMESTARTEDONTHATTWAT!

Take two schoolfriends, one of whom plays guitar fairly well, and the other fancies himself as a singer (despite all evidence to the contrary), add an industry A&R man who thinks he can hype them to the heights, so long as they agree to have two session men (who can't stand them, anyway) foisted on them to turn them from a duo into a "band" & voila, The Libertines! Said "singer" now has an even more over-inflated sense of his own importance / talent, but now also has a gullible public throwing money at him, which fuels his new found taste for all things Columbian. Over inflated sense of self importance is now fueled by the paranoia inherent in South American marching powder...

...and the kids love him!

Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Back to Top
VanderGraafKommandöh View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
Status: Offline
Points: 89372
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2006 at 03:53
I quite agree!  And having Kate Moss as a missus!  I'm not sure who to feel sorry for...

Apparently (from what I've read), Mr. Doherty has A+ GCSEs and A-Levels and apparently has won poetry competitions... hmmm...

Someone must have been listening out of the wrong orifice that day!  Either that, or they were blinded by their cocker spaniel the day before...


Edited by Geck0 - May 15 2006 at 03:53
Back to Top
Jim Garten View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin & Razor Guru

Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2006 at 03:53
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Peter Doherty and his bands that create so called music!


Jeez Geck0, you know how to push the wrong buttons, for me...

Pete Docherty?

Pete Docherty?

OHMYGODDON'TGETMESTARTEDONTHATTWAT!

Take two schoolfriends, one of whom plays guitar fairly well, and the other fancies himself as a singer (despite all evidence to the contrary), add an industry A&R man who thinks he can hype them to the heights, so long as they agree to have two session men (who can't stand them, anyway) foisted on them to turn them from a duo into a "band" & voila, The Libertines! Said "singer" now has an even more over-inflated sense of his own importance / talent, but now also has a gullible public throwing money at him, which fuels his new found taste for all things Columbian. Over inflated sense of self importance is now fueled by the paranoia inherent in South American marching powder...

...and the kids love him!


(edit)

...got a bit of an inside hook on this one, as one of my closest friends is the mother of Carl (Libertines guitarist); this may seem to be a character assassination attempt, but all the above is in the public domain, as opposed to other stuff I know but choose not to write!
    

Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Back to Top
VanderGraafKommandöh View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
Status: Offline
Points: 89372
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2006 at 03:55
Don't worry about it, Jim!  I was once chatting to this woman at a mobile CD stool once at how much I hated Chris de Burgh and apparently she was his cousin and she hated him just as much as well!

I really hope she was his cousin!
Back to Top
mystic fred View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 13 2006
Location: Londinium
Status: Offline
Points: 4252
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2006 at 12:02
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

[quote=Stonebeard]That bloody well reminds me:

"The Sentinel"...

How did a bunch of Scottish 4th division Yes wannabees ever persuade Eddie Offord to produce such a rancid collection of (for the want of a better word) songs whose only benefit to the oevre of progressive rock is to act as a benchmark for other bands travelling the same road, who can listen to their own efforts and say "well hey, it may be crap, maybe we can't play very well, maybe the lyrics are appalling (can you say "Magenta"?) and maybe our drummer does sound like my granny playing biscuit tins with crochet hooks... whilst asleep... but at least we're not as bad as PALLAS"

+++sound of re-breathing exercises+++



....unless someone asks me about Pallas, that is...
 
 
 
...you really don't like that album, do you jim?? it's the best album ever made jim .........jim??...
 
 
 
......................jim??  (too late he just imploded!!!)LOL  (..he's dead, jim!!)


Edited by mystic fred - May 15 2006 at 12:10
Prog Archives Tour Van
Back to Top
Jim Garten View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Retired Admin & Razor Guru

Joined: February 02 2004
Location: South England
Status: Offline
Points: 14693
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2006 at 12:29
AAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I think I need a lie down....
    

Edited by Jim Garten - May 15 2006 at 12:30

Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Back to Top
darren View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: October 31 2005
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 452
Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2006 at 15:36
I'm sick of people who quote Monty Python and think they're being funny. This is not aimed at any previous people who post. I'm in a local comedy troupe and I guess people recognize me as such and think they'll impress me by how much Python they can recite. Python is very original, cutting edge humour... or at least it was THIRTY FIVE YEARS AGO. Yes, most of it stands the test of time but would you start a band and only copy The Beatles? (insert Oasis joke here) The same people usually suggest sketch ideas and I know that if they quoted Python before telling me the idea, it's 100% certain the idea will end with "then he pulls out a gun and shoots him." Then they get upset when I don't double over in laughter.

Uh, sorry but we make it a point of giving our sketches actual endings. Now f--- off before I turn into one of the knights that will kick you in the nuts.

    
    
    

Edited by darren - May 15 2006 at 15:40
"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 117>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.258 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.