Offensive signature

TheProgtologist wrote: Ivan...in this country we  are free to worship as we choose,but we do have a seperation of church and state,and I hope you are familiar with that concept.

That's my point, there's a correct oplace for everything, if racism is banned here as it MUST be, then religious provocation must also.

We come here to talk about music, or talk about other issues in the correct lounge, if something may cause problems, lets avoid it. If some thread is turning offensive, administrators delete them, if something is offensive, it must follow the sane path.

The guy can talk about Satanism as he wants in the Non Music related Lounge, I assure you, wouldn't even worry to press the link, but outside it, it's better to avoid problems.

Iván 

I did indeed PM DeepPhreeze who very graciously agreed to remove it ...

I must say that this issue is one that causes me difficulty.

The boundary between freedom of speech and the use of language/imagery that is offensive is not always clear.

I had this dilemma when somebody posted pix of the 9/11 victims throwing themselves off the building ... and with the Mohamad cartoon as well.

I just want to ask you this ... when I first joined my avatar was a hammer and sickle, my username is still that of the founder of the Soviet Red Army and my signature is still a quote from him ... does anybody interpret that as open promotion of Communism? I can certainly see it being perceived as such! Does anybody then perceive that promotion to be offensive?

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: I believe I've been very tolerant with religious beliefs and disbeliefs, but the use of Satanic symbols is at least looking for trouble, already Drew made a comment and honestly I find it offensive against my beliefs. USER: DeepPhreeze I believe this should be stopped, lately some newbies are trying to cause problems. I'm sure that if any member made a signature asking for people to tuirn to some religion or cult or even saying Jesus Loves You, there will be a lot of people asking for that sig to be deleted with reason, because this is not a place for religious propaganda. Please delete this signature and tell the kid to stop asking for troubles. This is worst IMO. Iván

What is so offensive about that?  Its a symbol... its not religous propaganda.  Thats like saying that wearing a cross is religous propaganda.  He's not asking you to join any religion, he merely has a Seal of Solomon in his signature.

Did you know that symbol was not originally used by Satanists?  The Seal of Solomon has been associated with many groups over the years, including the Freemasons.  In fact, the way he is using it is associating it with the supposed "New World Order"- not directly with religous beliefs at all... its closer to a political statement than a religous one.

Just as Trotskys avatar does not promote Communism, this guys signature does not promote Satanism.  Its just a symbol.  Should we remove all symbols from these forums that could be associated with an "ism" of some kind?  Oooh, the rush symbol has a star in it, maybe that is promoting something... no more Rush album covers in your sigs folks!

Trotsky wrote: Empathy wrote: Trotsky wrote: I just want to ask you this ... when I first joined my avatar was a hammer and sickle, my username is still that of the founder of the Soviet Red Army and my signature is still a quote from him ... does anybody interpret that as open promotion of Communism? I can certainly see it being perceived as such! Does anybody then perceive that promotion to be offensive? Not I. Now if you had an avatar or sig file glorifying Stalin or Mao... I'd personally find that quite distasteful, but I wouldn't ask you to remove it. I would likely comment that I found it distasteful and disrespectful, however. I just remembered that my avatar is now (and has been for a couple of months) Trotsky's tombstone

That can be seen in an ironic way - I always thought of it as a tombstone for communism.

Empathy wrote: I'd say it's because, similar to the swastika in pre-Hitler times, the concept and symbol of Communism was far more "pure" and untainted with Trotsky, before it was twisted and tarnished by the evils that Stalin and Mao wrought.

Yes.

Hypothetically speaking, now, how about sigs (or polls) that loudly trumpet the member's supposed achievements and greatness?

Are they "offensive," or just a pitiable sign of extreme poor taste, very bad judgement, self-absorption, and an almost scary absence of character and charisma? 

Just wondering -- no particular reason....

Tuzvihar wrote: What do you think of my new sig ?

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