Objection: Queen/prog-related on top 100

All I have to say is that if Queen is prog, I see no reason not to throw in Led Zeppelin, Metallica, Iron Maiden...

Of course I radther take out the bands like Queen than throw in more to be fair.

I can't imagine prog that is played at Highschool basketball games, but I've heard "We Will Rock You" at everyone I've been too...  Look at that bands output.... 3 and 4 minute catchy pop songs, with a few exceptions like the Prophets Song and Bohemian Rhapsody... its innovative and interesting, and it was made during the 70's, but that does not make it prog.

goose wrote: BebieM wrote: Generally prog-related and proto-prog albums shouldn't count for the top100 on the first page IMO. It's good to have them on the site to see a) where prog came from and b) what bands border on being prog, but that's it.  Couldn't agree more with that

Definitely. As much as I am a Beatles fan, their albums should not be in the PA Top 100. The same goes for Queen.

freebird wrote: Some years ago I saw an interesting book at the dicount bookstore "History of Glam Rock" with Slade, Ziggy Stardust, Freddie Mercury & Queen. The book described Prog as the opposite of Glam, with Rick Wakeman as an flagrant example of Prog, his music - "Grandiose symphonic keyboard & piano compositions" (I immediately went out and bought a bunch of Wakeman Albums!!!)    ha ha!

I don't think the author of that book was right, especially as he was putting a bunch of very different musicians in the same kettle. What would he have made, for instance, of Roxy Music? They are in PA under "Art Rock" (if I remember well), and I've seen them described as glam rock quite often. And what about Peter Gabriel? If everyone who dresses up on stage were to be defined as glam rock, even Kiss should be put in the same category.

Then, Queen are not listed under "Symphonic Prog" or any other such sacred category - they're under "Prog-RELATED", which means just that - a band or musician who has produced something which bears a relation to the music we all know and love. As to "A Night at the Opera" being in the Top 100, I cannot see how any album by any band present on this site can be barred from being included in that list. This wouldn't just be fair, IMHO.

That said, I'm not a big fan of Queen, outstanding musicians as they may be. Their inclusion in PA does not particularly bother me (even if seeing an album of theirs with George Michael in the Album list upset me just a little bit...), but I think there are bands more deserving of inclusion. One name for all: the mighty Led Zeppelin.

Ghost Rider wrote: As to "A Night at the Opera" being in the Top 100, I cannot see how any album by any band present on this site can be barred from being included in that list. This wouldn't just be fair, IMHO.

The problem is that when the proto-prog/prog-related genres were introduced, everybody agreed that these albums (and reviews) would not be shown on the front page. Then afterwards, when people started to complain that their review didn't show on the front page, that was changed. I can understand that some people feel like they've been betrayed ...

IMO those albums/reviews clearly don't belong on the front page. I mean, this is a prog website and we spend much time and serious consideration on which bands are prog, and which are not. And then we throw them all together on the front page and list them in one big top 100? Why not make a top 100 pure-prog list and beneath that a top 10 proto-prog/prog-related list instead?